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January 11, 2016, 01:28:09 PM
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hi is withdrawal to this website instant ?
withdrawal here is not instant but rest assured that you will going to be paid. just contact the support they are online now and they can help you with it okay ?
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January 11, 2016, 02:07:55 PM
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hi is withdrawal to this website instant ?

It is not instant but you dont need to worry because you will get paid 1x24 hours. That is the maximum time. If there is delay you should contact their support and they will process it right away
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January 11, 2016, 02:10:58 PM
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January 11, 2016, 03:04:44 PM
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hi is withdrawal to this website insta nt ?

It is not instant but you dont need to worry because you will get paid 1x24 hours. That is the maximum time. If there is delay you should contact their support and they will process it right away

Yes my friends withdrawal was delayed more than 24 hours after contacting the service via chat withdrawal immediately processed just a few minutes
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January 11, 2016, 03:37:23 PM
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January 11, 2016, 03:41:37 PM
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not sure you read my post or not here I will repeat :

hello admin

what's going on with your system ?
you unlocked my account a few hours ago but now I get locked again
and your agent "aimee" said you have more than 3 accounts wow, she began to tell me the account she meant cyber, caiseryon, etc the fact what is she said it's not true and there something wrong with your system, you know you can starting investigation like the other poker room did and every aspect of your site from IP location, the hand played at ring games or tournaments, etc. why I always get locked when it's not my fault ? because I have a lot of btc in my balance ? or because I make a withdrawal everyday ? you know withdrawal is very important for a player when winning a tournaments or ring games I play almost all sites nitrogen, swcpoker, luckyflop, betcoin.ag I know these poker room is very full with colluders and multiaccounters, your site enable the vpns is a good move. I don't know how your system works but there is something wrong with your system I wish you fix your system so everyone does not get the same thing as me (always get locked) and I need your help to fix it again "haseo11" my username

thanks

The type of lock that's on your account is basically impossible to get, but to give you the benefit of the doubt I unlocked you. If it locks you again I won't unlock it for poker a second time.


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January 11, 2016, 03:44:07 PM
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@betcointm

This is really frustrating  Sad People want to play poker at your site but they are unable to play because of your system faults.I am saying again i don't have any other account in your site and your live chat can't give instant solution.That make no sense.I never have a problem solved by them.If they can't solve any problem why they're online?

Back to the point,i am locked because of security.I played yesterday without any problem and cashed out without any problem then why locked today when i go to play again?your online support claiming that there is another 2 account from same Ip.I don't know which ip they talking about.There is no reason for me to create another account and i have reason not to create another account.I don't know what's the problem with your system.Never faced this kind of situation when played any other poker rooms.

Looking forward to play there ! Hoping you will give a permanent solve.

Regards

Requesting you to look at my problem i swear to god i don't have any other account in your site.  Grin Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?


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January 11, 2016, 03:51:10 PM
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Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?[/b]

They have poker freerolls on their site and since everyone love free money then it is normal that most user create alot of accounts to play in this freerolls so that is one reason on why would you create multiple account . Whatever you got from their freerolls could be more then what you are paid for their sig ads
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January 11, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
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Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?[/b]

They have poker freerolls on their site and since everyone love free money then it is normal that most user create alot of accounts to play in this freerolls so that is one reason on why would you create multiple account . Whatever you got from their freerolls could be more then what you are paid for their sig ads

If you know that there is no way to withdraw your money even you won by cheating poker site,will you create multiple account then? My account was locked weeks ago the betcointm unlocked it and i know that every poker rooms have the same rule.That make no sense for me to create multiple account.I played every bitcoin site so far but never had issue like this.I am just shocked what a faulty system.
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January 11, 2016, 04:03:19 PM
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Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?[/b]

They have poker freerolls on their site and since everyone love free money then it is normal that most user create alot of accounts to play in this freerolls so that is one reason on why would you create multiple account . Whatever you got from their freerolls could be more then what you are paid for their sig ads

If you know that there is no way to withdraw your money even you won by cheating poker site,will you create multiple account then? My account was locked weeks ago the betcointm unlocked it and i know that every poker rooms have the same rule.That make no sense for me to create multiple account.I played every bitcoin site so far but never had issue like this.I am just shocked what a faulty system.

What if u know that there is a way to withdraw ur money u won by cheating?  Would it be so hard to have one account u can withdraw from?  Or just lose all chips to a friend and split the prize?


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January 11, 2016, 04:06:35 PM
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Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?[/b]

They have poker freerolls on their site and since everyone love free money then it is normal that most user create alot of accounts to play in this freerolls so that is one reason on why would you create multiple account . Whatever you got from their freerolls could be more then what you are paid for their sig ads

If you know that there is no way to withdraw your money even you won by cheating poker site,will you create multiple account then? My account was locked weeks ago the betcointm unlocked it and i know that every poker rooms have the same rule.That make no sense for me to create multiple account.I played every bitcoin site so far but never had issue like this.I am just shocked what a faulty system.

In fact not all players who create multi accounts cares about it whether they will able to withdraw their winning or not, they will always has a way prevent it something like using VPN.


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January 11, 2016, 04:14:50 PM
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Can you tell me just one reason to create multiple account? i am getting paid from signature campaign why i throw away my money by creating multiple account?[/b]

They have poker freerolls on their site and since everyone love free money then it is normal that most user create alot of accounts to play in this freerolls so that is one reason on why would you create multiple account . Whatever you got from their freerolls could be more then what you are paid for their sig ads

If you know that there is no way to withdraw your money even you won by cheating poker site,will you create multiple account then? My account was locked weeks ago the betcointm unlocked it and i know that every poker rooms have the same rule.That make no sense for me to create multiple account.I played every bitcoin site so far but never had issue like this.I am just shocked what a faulty system.

In fact not all players who create multi accounts cares about it whether they will able to withdraw their winning or not, they will always has a way prevent it something like using VPN.



Our anti-collusion systems are quite obviously some of the most sensitive that I know of. We are gradually dialing back to a level that makes sense for everyone while still giving us the confidence that no one is slipping through the cracks. Gildarts you actually have one of the more common locks on your account - an IP lock. It is the least secure way to block people and also the least reliable, but many poker rooms do have this as an anti-collusion measure. We also have analytics that track players for anti-collusion activities as a secondary. Since you have not been flagged there you've been unlocked again.

If you are locked again I won't unlock you. A false positive on an IP block once happens about 5% of the time. Two in a row happens maybe 0.5%. You will be on 3 or 4 now if memory serves me correctly.


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January 11, 2016, 04:17:51 PM
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Video poker info says less than 1% house edge.

But the payable is one of the worst and only pays out ~95% with perfect play.  Also, the computer sometimes suggests some pretty bad plays.  (like holding 4 with T Js Ks As X)

I think the 2,672.880 BTC ($1,192,532.14) first deposit bonus is why I've never  bothered to really look at this site in the past, didn't realize there was anything other than those weird games.

Do you have the math and hands to back that up? House edge is what it says on the tin with perfect play. 





You're payout schedule returns 95.5%

If you want to make it 99.5 change the payouts to 800, 50, 25, 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1


You don't have to take the hands suggested to you by the computer.

The computer doesn't have to suggest the wrong play.



Thanks for going through the trouble of providing the proof to your claim - we really sincerely appreciate it! Please check again in a few hours and post your findings.

The computer doesn't suggest the wrong plays - but it doesn't always suggest the perfect plays either.


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Our anti-collusion systems are quite obviously some of the most sensitive that I know of. We are gradually dialing back to a level that makes sense for everyone while still giving us the confidence that no one is slipping through the cracks. Gildarts you actually have one of the more common locks on your account - an IP lock. It is the least secure way to block people and also the least reliable, but many poker rooms do have this as an anti-collusion measure. We also have analytics that track players for anti-collusion activities as a secondary. Since you have not been flagged there you've been unlocked again.

If you are locked again I won't unlock you. A false positive on an IP block once happens about 5% of the time. Two in a row happens maybe 0.5%. You will be on 3 or 4 now if memory serves me correctly.

Its second time i got locked from your system.I don't understand why you guys thinking its my fault? several times i said that i don't have any multiple account.Honestly i had a hope that there is a new bitcoin poker site which giving better tourneys free-rolls and bonuses to player so i can play their and win some.But now i am feeling like because of the system i will miss or unable to play their.Because i don't have any hope that system will not lock me in future even i don't have any fault from my side.

But saying again i don't ever create any other account their except this one.
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Our anti-collusion systems are quite obviously some of the most sensitive that I know of. We are gradually dialing back to a level that makes sense for everyone while still giving us the confidence that no one is slipping through the cracks. Gildarts you actually have one of the more common locks on your account - an IP lock. It is the least secure way to block people and also the least reliable, but many poker rooms do have this as an anti-collusion measure. We also have analytics that track players for anti-collusion activities as a secondary. Since you have not been flagged there you've been unlocked again.

If you are locked again I won't unlock you. A false positive on an IP block once happens about 5% of the time. Two in a row happens maybe 0.5%. You will be on 3 or 4 now if memory serves me correctly.

Its second time i got locked from your system.I don't understand why you guys thinking its my fault? several times i said that i don't have any multiple account.Honestly i had a hope that there is a new bitcoin poker site which giving better tourneys free-rolls and bonuses to player so i can play their and win some.But now i am feeling like because of the system i will miss or unable to play their.Because i don't have any hope that system will not lock me in future even i don't have any fault from my side.

But saying again i don't ever create any other account their except this one.

You're unlocked again - I don't think that you'll ever have the issue with your account again. Let me know if you do.


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January 11, 2016, 08:09:17 PM
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But if each of the 5 people was using their own phone's data connection to get online it would be OK?

If 5 people are playing on the same IP then obviously something is going on and we can't monitor that. If someone is using the same IP address because they changed it and *somehow* it was the same as another person's then the signs would be pretty clear - the chances of that happening are pretty low and even if it did there are still ways to tell that's what's going on.

I think you misunderstood me.

I'm saying that if 5 people are in the same building and want to play on your site, they could each use their own phone's data connection and play with 5 different IP addresses, and you wouldn't know they were in the same building. Then, if they were cheating, it would be harder for you to detect.

If, instead, you let them all use the same IP address, you would have extra information to help detect collusion.

By forcing them to each use their own IP address you are reducing the amount of information available to you to detect collusion.

TwitchySeal made the same point. In fact I probably stole most of my thinking from him. He's a smart one.

To be fair we did a lot of research. Cubeia is relatively new, but it is, in my humble opinion, the best offering for HTML5 multiplayer poker.

I'm very impressed by it. I'm only posting the 'complaints' I am posting because I want to see the software improve further. Compared to the competition for Bitcoin poker, this is the best I've seen so far. SWC doesn't work if you don't have Windows, and neither does the .ag betcoin. They have an in-browser client, but it's flash based and crashes a lot. I've never tried Nitrogen - I think I read that they use the same HTML5 client as you guys.

Maybe Need Some Detection for MAC Address too..
Thats will be nice..  Smiley

I think your computer's MAC address goes no further than your own local router.

Video poker info says less than 1% house edge.

But the payable is one of the worst and only pays out ~95% with perfect play.

Do you have the math and hands to back that up? House edge is what it says on the tin with perfect play.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/ is very good at calculating the house edge for video poker games. I've not looked at your offering, but can do if you two can't come to agreement on the true edge.

Here's another little problem I've been having with the HTML5 poker software. As soon as I'm in 3 or more games the tiled windows are small enough that the tile icon covers one of the top-left player's hole cards. It would be nice if I could see his cards when he shows. Maybe just move him up and right a bit:


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January 11, 2016, 09:20:54 PM
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I think BetCoin.TM should reduce again minimum players to start each Guarantee tournament. As far as i playing poker there no one Guarantee tournament running. Maybe will be better if reduce around 3 or 4 players
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January 11, 2016, 10:07:47 PM
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I just played the level 3 freeroll. I didn't see the guy who came in 2nd play a single hand - he was sat out the whole time I was on his table I think.



Active players are going out before the sat out players because they're actually playing the game. It seems a little unfair.

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January 11, 2016, 10:11:01 PM
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I think BetCoin.TM should reduce again minimum players to start each Guarantee tournament. As far as i playing poker there no one Guarantee tournament running. Maybe will be better if reduce around 3 or 4 players

I agree. There aren't enough players yet to get any of the tournaments running. Reduce the guarantee along with the minimum number of players until things pick up a bit.

I don't understand why the poker isn't busier. There are so many freerolls running, and the leaderboard rewards are pretty good too.

I've made 40 mBTC in a couple of days without depositing, which isn't a huge amount but people will hang around dice site faucets for much much less than that.

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