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November 30, 2012, 03:40:15 AM
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Along with the halving, this HAS to make the price go up.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-29/dollar-less-iranians-discover-virtual-currency


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November 30, 2012, 04:14:43 AM
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Iranian-American bitcoin consultant Farzhad Hashemi recently traveled to Tehran and talked up bitcoin to his friends.

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November 30, 2012, 04:22:02 AM
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“They are instantly fascinated by it,” he says. “It’s a flash for them when they realize how it can solve their problems.”

I may have to rethink my 1-2week stable period prediction, and just skip to the upward explosion.  Grin

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November 30, 2012, 04:28:43 AM
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Iranian-American bitcoin consultant Farzhad Hashemi recently traveled to Tehran and talked up bitcoin to his friends.

lol

haha noticed that too. Go on, everyone of Bitcointalk, for you are all consultants of the Gospel of Bitcoin and it is your duty to proselytize those who do not see our ways.
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November 30, 2012, 04:29:08 AM
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As much as I like this usecase - the story does strike me as a bit of an exaggeration.

I've no particular insight into what's going on in Iran - but while there have been a few nodes popping up in Iran over the past couple of weeks as evidenced on:
http://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=48hrs
... it doesn't look like much.

Perhaps they're using things like the blockchain.info/wallet rather than full nodes, but I'd like to see some evidence that there are even as many as 100 people using it there.

I worry also that this story brings attention to Bitcoin as a 'sanction buster'...  when it's barely got off the ground as such and is more easily squashed.


edit: but on the plus side.. this sort of attention will probably inspire more interest amongs Iranians abroad, and then their families/friends back in Iran.

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November 30, 2012, 04:53:16 AM
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BUY!!!!!

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November 30, 2012, 04:59:54 AM
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edit: but on the plus side.. this sort of attention will probably inspire more interest amongs Iranians abroad, and then their families/friends back in Iran.


This is actually a good point. There is a huge Iranian community in North America and bitcoin would serve as a very good remittance option if the traditional methods were being disrupted or unstable.

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November 30, 2012, 05:53:32 AM
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this goes into the press section unless its already there

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November 30, 2012, 08:12:37 AM
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I worry also that this story brings attention to Bitcoin as a 'sanction buster'...  when it's barely got off the ground as such and is more easily squashed.

+1

If you want bitcoin to survive in the long term, if you like bitcoin, don't go waving it around as the currency of Iran, or the Taliban, or anything of the sort.

Or, to quote Satoshi during the Wikileaks/Manning furor, No, don't "bring it on".


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November 30, 2012, 08:26:09 AM
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The people of Iran are as much to blame for their government's misdeeds as Americans are [of their government's].

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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November 30, 2012, 08:37:36 AM
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The people of Iran are as much to blame for their government's misdeeds as Americans are.
FTFY

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November 30, 2012, 08:03:28 PM
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The people of Iran are as much to blame for their government's misdeeds as Americans are.
FTFY

BTFM

Simply being a natural-born resident of a country does not confer guilt by association, otherwise war crimes committed by American presidents could have we the sheeple charged as accomplices.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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November 30, 2012, 08:56:09 PM
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The people of Iran are as much to blame for their government's misdeeds as Americans are.

but possibly more?

Anyone complicit in the direct actions that they are aware of, even based off little more than a hunch have some guilt.

Therefore people who submit their tax dollars have some of the guilt. But most lies with the direct decisions of the high ups that know actions cause deaths of people.

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November 30, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
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Therefore people who submit their tax dollars have some of the guilt. But most lies with the direct decisions of the high ups that know actions cause deaths of people.

A victim is never responsible for the actions of the perpetrator. Taxation is theft and the State is the violent aggressor. If you are the victim of theft by an aggressor then you are not responsible for what the aggressor does with the funds. Therefore, if you submit tax dollar to the State you do not bear any guilt or responsibility for what they do with the proceeds.

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November 30, 2012, 09:07:18 PM
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No victim-blaming, 420. People robbed at gunpoint cannot be blamed for misdeeds funded by their stolen assets.

Even by your standard...

An estimated 50 percent of Iran’s GDP was exempt from taxes in FY 2004.[2] There are virtually millions of people who do not pay taxes in Iran and hence operate outside the formal economy.[3][4]

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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November 30, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
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Therefore people who submit their tax dollars have some of the guilt. But most lies with the direct decisions of the high ups that know actions cause deaths of people.

A victim is never responsible for the actions of the perpetrator. Taxation is theft and the State is the violent aggressor. If you are the victim of theft by an aggressor then you are not responsible for what the aggressor does with the funds. Therefore, if you submit tax dollar to the State you do not bear any guilt or responsibility for what they do with the proceeds.


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No victim-blaming, 420. People robbed at gunpoint cannot be blamed for misdeeds funded by their stolen assets.

Even by your standard...

An estimated 50 percent of Iran’s GDP was exempt from taxes in FY 2004.[2] There are virtually millions of people who do not pay taxes in Iran and hence operate outside the formal economy.[3][4]

there no gun to heads at the point of the check getting in your hand with taxes being asked for

Even Harry Reid said income tax is voluntary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg#t=0m26s
[Okay, yes doublespeak...]

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November 30, 2012, 09:17:44 PM
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You will accept our funny money for your oil or else...

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November 30, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
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I worry also that this story brings attention to Bitcoin as a 'sanction buster'...  when it's barely got off the ground as such and is more easily squashed.

+1

If you want bitcoin to survive in the long term, if you like bitcoin, don't go waving it around as the currency of Iran, or the Taliban, or anything of the sort.

Or, to quote Satoshi during the Wikileaks/Manning furor, No, don't "bring it on".



What exactly are you going to do about it ?

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November 30, 2012, 09:35:26 PM
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The people of Iran are as much to blame for their government's misdeeds as Americans are.
What misdeeds?

They're there, in their room.
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