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December 17, 2015, 06:18:20 PM |
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What is wrong with my logic?
well, the topic was about old topics, and the issues are now resolved. I remain in the shade here... |
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crazyivan
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December 17, 2015, 07:29:43 PM |
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Hashnest is definitely legit, the problem is this rampaging mining diff. With that in mind, reaching ROI is almost impossible, at least not without active hash trading.
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vilain
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December 19, 2015, 06:25:19 AM |
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Hashnest is definitely legit, the problem is this rampaging mining diff. With that in mind, reaching ROI is almost impossible, at least not without active hash trading.
Why active hash trading is better? There's a premium when you sell hashrate?? |
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crazyivan
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December 19, 2015, 07:27:26 AM |
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So, there is actually no Cloud Mining Website that is legit?
Both Hashnest and GM are legit. None of them is profitable ATM, especially not Genesis Mining. What are you taking into account when you say it's not profitable? I haven't reached ROI with GM yet, but have been receiving constant payments and expect to ROI soon, and after that collect profits... What is wrong with my logic? Please explain so I avoid putting more money into it  Here is what s wrong with your logic. With galloping BTC mining dif of 20-30% per month, there s NO WAY you are about to reach ROI soon. If I m wrong, pls share your data. Even if you re able to reach your ROI mysteriously, your profits after that re going be dust, so low, you cant call them profits. In essence, what you GM investors do is to provide nice, interest free loans to GM and they use that money to build those farms while you get no profit or peanuts. If I m wrong, show me your data. Tell me when you have invested, what was BTC price of your contract so we can see what was your ROI. |
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lumeire
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December 19, 2015, 02:20:14 PM |
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So, there is actually no Cloud Mining Website that is legit?
Both Hashnest and GM are legit. None of them is profitable ATM, especially not Genesis Mining. What are you taking into account when you say it's not profitable? I haven't reached ROI with GM yet, but have been receiving constant payments and expect to ROI soon, and after that collect profits... What is wrong with my logic? Please explain so I avoid putting more money into it Here is what s wrong with your logic. With galloping BTC mining dif of 20-30% per month, there s NO WAY you are about to reach ROI soon. If I m wrong, pls share your data. Even if you re able to reach your ROI mysteriously, your profits after that re going be dust, so low, you cant call them profits. In essence, what you GM investors do is to provide nice, interest free loans to GM and they use that money to build those farms while you get no profit or peanuts. If I m wrong, show me your data. Tell me when you have invested, what was BTC price of your contract so we can see what was your ROI. True, see this for example - a week ago my HashNest contract was earning 0.004-0.005/day/TH now it's down to ~0.003-.004/day/TH. With an ever increasing difficulty I will need to purchase more GHs to keep up with my target, which further pushes away the ROI. The profits in the cloud mining space is in trading, not so much in the mining itself. |
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December 19, 2015, 04:10:43 PM |
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I have been using Hashnest. Hashnest is actually the most trusted cloud mining service in the ecosystem. It is Bitmain's could mining service. With Hashnest you can even trade your GHS while mining.
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amalref
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December 19, 2015, 04:50:45 PM |
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have you seen eobot already?
I can confirm that eobot is paying me over 5 months! Every day i receive 100.35 DOGE from the site ( 10 GH/s 2.0 + 1 GH/s 3.0 ) Why doge? because on btc is minimum withdrawal 100000 satoshi,it's better to set DOGE and have payout every day. Faucet gives me 20 DOGE every claim so it's good. In 1 month i will be in ROI. YAY!  I have about 15 reffs and every day i got ~10 doge from mining bonus ( Only 3-4 reffs paid for GH/s ). Eobot is ponzi but it's paying me over 5 months so i don't have problem to use this site  As i said before,i'm using Eobot for the mining with 11 GH/s. Paying me over 5 months.. This site is ponzi but it's paying and working good than newer ponzi's cloudmining site's. Received 100.35 DOGE today. |
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December 19, 2015, 06:40:52 PM |
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So, there is actually no Cloud Mining Website that is legit?
Both Hashnest and GM are legit. None of them is profitable ATM, especially not Genesis Mining. What are you taking into account when you say it's not profitable? I haven't reached ROI with GM yet, but have been receiving constant payments and expect to ROI soon, and after that collect profits... What is wrong with my logic? Please explain so I avoid putting more money into it Here is what s wrong with your logic. With galloping BTC mining dif of 20-30% per month, there s NO WAY you are about to reach ROI soon. If I m wrong, pls share your data. Even if you re able to reach your ROI mysteriously, your profits after that re going be dust, so low, you cant call them profits. In essence, what you GM investors do is to provide nice, interest free loans to GM and they use that money to build those farms while you get no profit or peanuts. If I m wrong, show me your data. Tell me when you have invested, what was BTC price of your contract so we can see what was your ROI. We may not always agree with each other, but you couldn't be more correct on this. In order to reach ROI with massive difficulty ramping you have to either buy a higher amount of hash proportional to your initial investment compared to the rise in difficulty. Or... The much smarter way is to buy hash and then trade it, the whole time making most of your profits off of trades, rather than the actually mined Bitcoin. I do this myself, especially today was great with the crash in S7 and rise in S5. But, honestly it has taken me over a year to make sure I get 3 out of 4 trades correct. If you don't, then you're losing. Plus, most people forget that some hash has a fee when sold. Basically beginners should strictly buy Bitcoin with cash and watch the markets and learn. They will only lose if they try to invest most likely. You need to learn how to be a shark in this game of trading we play. |
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December 19, 2015, 07:20:11 PM |
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**I'm actually using CLDmine, but didn't make any large investments yet.
Something that I said about another site applies to this one as well: Check this one https://cryptomining.farm/faq. They just relaunched recently. Their electricity is from Photovoltaic power station Project. They guaranteed profit (fixed rate 0.9USD per 1 GHS) and increase 5% for 15 years. 1) This is not the place to promote cloud mining schemes.2) They don't have mining proof 3) Site creator who can't afford someone to proofread the site sure gets successful. /sarcasm Oh and the "Our partners use only green energy - wind power stations" , sure as heck yeah. /sarcasm Now don't even get me started on their awesome ref program /sarcasm Oh oh, don't forget they also offer you to be not in the know of what machines are doing the mining for you, also an awesome phrase: We rent lastest technology equipment for mining Forget it mate, there is nothing called free money I had a bad feeling cryptomining.farm is not a legit site judging from their grammar had 15 referrals here and making free satoshi daily but as we all know they will not allow you to cashout without investing first and I am not thinking of investing my bitcoin here |
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bit1
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December 20, 2015, 08:16:57 PM |
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Like to mentioned for a guy previously the problem is that everybody does his calculations to a ROI but the difficulty remains always growing and recover the initial investment takes longer than expected in the best.
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winspiral
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December 20, 2015, 08:36:10 PM |
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I run the smallest cloudmining website ever run...
Most of people believe that it is the biggest scam ever proposed.
Perhaps ...a day...it will be in the "Guinness Book of Records"
And all the investors too...of course.
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amalref
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December 21, 2015, 02:22:38 AM |
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I run the smallest cloudmining website ever run...
Most of people believe that it is the biggest scam ever proposed.
Perhaps ...a day...it will be in the "Guinness Book of Records"
And all the investors too...of course.
With your negative trust rating i don't think that you will have famous cloudmining site  You need to gain trust first,good website with cool design + security and proof of miners ( photo with name of company,company number etc.) if you have only simple website you will never be trusted ! |
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winspiral
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December 21, 2015, 08:33:34 AM |
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I run the smallest cloudmining website ever run...
Most of people believe that it is the biggest scam ever proposed.
Perhaps ...a day...it will be in the "Guinness Book of Records"
And all the investors too...of course.
With your negative trust rating i don't think that you will have famous cloudmining site You need to gain trust first,good website with cool design + security and proof of miners ( photo with name of company,company number etc.) if you have only simple website you will never be trusted ! You are funny... if 2 people give you negative trust (even if you are not guilty) can you then keep up living? I'm sure yes... So i can...and I sleep well. i do not know if the 2 people who gave me neg trust can...(lol) Yes you are funny...asking for a compagny number for an U2 (lol) |
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amalref
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December 22, 2015, 05:56:53 PM |
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I run the smallest cloudmining website ever run...
Most of people believe that it is the biggest scam ever proposed.
Perhaps ...a day...it will be in the "Guinness Book of Records"
And all the investors too...of course.
With your negative trust rating i don't think that you will have famous cloudmining site You need to gain trust first,good website with cool design + security and proof of miners ( photo with name of company,company number etc.) if you have only simple website you will never be trusted ! You are funny... if 2 people give you negative trust (even if you are not guilty) can you then keep up living? I'm sure yes... So i can...and I sleep well. i do not know if the 2 people who gave me neg trust can...(lol) Yes you are funny...asking for a compagny number for an U2 (lol) Are you a teenager? (lol) (lol) (lol) I don't think that it's funny. Your site is bad man,you need better design |
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winspiral
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December 22, 2015, 06:50:40 PM |
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I run the smallest cloudmining website ever run...
Most of people believe that it is the biggest scam ever proposed.
Perhaps ...a day...it will be in the "Guinness Book of Records"
And all the investors too...of course.
With your negative trust rating i don't think that you will have famous cloudmining site You need to gain trust first,good website with cool design + security and proof of miners ( photo with name of company,company number etc.) if you have only simple website you will never be trusted ! You are funny... if 2 people give you negative trust (even if you are not guilty) can you then keep up living? I'm sure yes... So i can...and I sleep well. i do not know if the 2 people who gave me neg trust can...(lol) Yes you are funny...asking for a compagny number for an U2 (lol) Are you a teenager? (lol) (lol) (lol) I don't think that it's funny. Your site is bad man,you need better design it's my babby...and for me it's one of my "beautifulest" sites (I say so for not frustrating its sisters)(lol) programme the same...with better design...so all people (me too) will go there. |
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betohell
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December 22, 2015, 10:07:14 PM |
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I know eobot, but it is very slow, there is any site better?
I heard that eobot is a ponzi. is that true? I first bought 6 GHS for $18 paypal 3 years ago, now it is not working GHS, inexplicably removed by eobot  |
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amalref
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December 23, 2015, 05:43:27 PM |
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I know eobot, but it is very slow, there is any site better?
I heard that eobot is a ponzi. is that true? I first bought 6 GHS for $18 paypal 3 years ago, now it is not working GHS, inexplicably removed by eobot Eobot is ponzi but active very long... I have 11 GH/s here and no problem.. |
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mrsalve
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December 24, 2015, 10:29:21 PM |
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I like Hashflare.io. I also use bit a Hashnest.
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The Sceptical Chymist
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December 24, 2015, 11:40:03 PM |
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I'm going to chime in on the chorus here and suggest to OP that he try to put his money to work elsewhere. I don't believe there are any legit cloud mining operations out there--the whole business model is perfect for scamming, and I'd say pretty much all of them are. So don't do it.
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September 18, 2017, 11:32:03 PM |
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I'm going to chime in on the chorus here and suggest to OP that he try to put his money to work elsewhere. I don't believe there are any legit cloud mining operations out there--the whole business model is perfect for scamming, and I'd say pretty much all of them are. So don't do it.
You can try this guys https://www.cryptomining.farm/signup/?referrer=59A8172D43921 |
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