The Cryptsy Deceptions

[Hippie Tech]

Who are the people really behind Cryptsy and it's allied/ cloned exchanges ?

What can we do to hold them morally and legally accountable for the frauds they have perpetrated on the crypto community ?

This story is so twisted and convoluted that it is difficult to know where to begin. So lets start with this most recent revelation regarding the owner and operator of Cryptsy, Paul and/or Mark Vernon. (see next post)

Please know that if you are a known Cryptsy insider/ collaborator and/or in an obvious past /present confict of interest, you will be ignored.

As for everyone else I look forward to hearing any and all opinions and information on this matter.

pEACe

HT xD

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[Hippie Tech]

i heard of that when posting my BTC pump pics in the Bitcoin section.
I also remembered the found Cryptsy version of the site..
Then that comment i missed on IRC the other day combined with Gleb's info + Insights
i think we have a winner.. ding ding

Hey, why don't just come out and say it: I'm Wright. I'm always Wright! (in your voice, not that I'm Wright)  

Lets see if you're willing to ignore this one again Sherlock..

This is probably nothing.. but the name and the IP addys say POST THIS SHIT !

TAG's was listed at cryptsy just days after being released by Mark Vernon.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317408.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=151491

Date Registered:   September 20, 2013, 11:17:36 PM

http://tagbond.com/

http://bankinnovation.net/2013/05/bank-partnerships-with-startups-will-be-key-in-mobile-wallet-wars-fed-says/

mark vernon on May 8, 2013 at 12:00 am
That’s exactly what we are working on at tagbond.com

http://www.crunchbase.com/person/mark-vernon-2/revisions

61.7.145.206 - Thailand IP

203.219.103.104, Australian ISP

EDIT

Over priced food for charity anyone ?
Who needs Pad Thai rice when you have Vita-meal !

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https://who.is/domain-history/tagcash.com

Registrant Name: Mark Vernon
Registrant Street: 2108 Corporate 88 Center 141 Valero St
Registrant City: Makati, Phillipines

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/88+Corporate+Center,+141+Valero,+Makati,+Metro+Manila,+Philippines/@14.5578657,121.0193036,14.64z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x3397c90600718a77:0x825c7a45987c8e57


What a mind blowing coincidence ! DABS' VitaMeal chums are literally just down the road from Mark and his shitcoin haven..

http://www.philippinesypages.com.ph/business_services/13376/nu-skin-enterprises-philippines-inc-alabang-in-muntinlupa-63-2-403-4005

Nu Skin Enterprises Philippines Inc Alabang in Muntinlupa 63 2 403 4005 is located in Muntinlupa, Philippines. You can contact them on phone on 63 2 403 4005 or you can visit them at their address in Muntinlupa which is 2nd Floor, Building B, Bc Group Center, Filinvest Avenue, Filinvest Corporate City, Alabang, Muntinlupa City, 1781, Metro Manila. Nu Skin Enterprises Philippines Inc Alabang in Muntinlupa 63 2 403 4005

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300631.msg3333245#msg3333245

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We have a Paul.. a Mark.. dare I throw a DeadHead fanatic and crypto crusader named Matt into the mix ?

https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Matt+Vernon%22

Are Luke and John Vernon in da hause ?

And do any of you work for Blackwater ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1204768/Iraqis-seek-justice-Blackwater-boss-accused-crusade-wipe-Muslims.html

Blackwater founder Erik Prince ‘views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe,’ according to a former employee.

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December 29 2015 UPDATE

[ANN] Coinxchange - Bitcoin exchange for the Philippines
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563687.0

I'm an owner of the company and a developer on the project.  You can learn more about my background on the about page.  The well-respected "Dabs" from bitcointalk is also a director in the company.

EDIT

Dabs AND Tagbond were all over it ! lol

Hi,

I'm a professional software developer and I've been working on writing a Bitcoin exchange from scratch.  I think the Philippines may be a good location to open an Exchange and the legal requirements appear to be reasonable.  Does anyone have any thoughts on that?

I've done some initial checking into what it would require to create a new foreign-owned corporation in the Philippines, because I intend to be fully registered.  One thing I haven't been able to learn much about is what the banking situation is like.  The US has ACH for moving funds in and out of banks.  India has NEFT. etc.  Does a similar situation exist in the Philippines and if so, what is it?  I've been able to see that if you have an account at "BankA" you can move money easily to another account, but I'm not sure whether this is easy between banks.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Thanks

Just thought to let everyone here know that tagcash.com is now live for trading of Bitcoin and 16 other cryptocurrencies against each other, as well as 9 fiat currencies (including PHP). No transaction charges, and no charges for Philippine users to deposit PHP into BPI, BDO, Metrobank and Standard Chartered Bank. There is also an escrow function (free) that allows users to pay but not fully transfer untill Bitcoin etc has been fully transferred and confirmed, which also protects the seller as the money cannot be released untill proof either way.

Tagcash is a payment platform with a built in exchange. We are based in Makati, but available worldwide. Tagcash aims to become the paypal of cryptocurrency, and this requires us to have an exchange built in as part of the platform. If you want to start selling goods and services for Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency, you can do so using our free API, or creating a merchant account in tagbond.com and creating free adverts, coupons, shopping carts etc. Transaction charges are 1% of sales for merchant accounts.

@Ayakashi - We have been working for the last few months with Bangko Sentral, and we are going through the process of becoming licensed as E money issuers and have already created a 100m Peso company as part of the requirements. Although you don't need a license to create an exchange, we do because we are intending to compete with G Cash and Smart Money in Philippines. As for banking, it's fairly straightforward, different bank to bank payments cost about 100 pesos per transaction, depositing money costs nothing if you have bank accounts with most of the popular banks (as we do). It's been interesting learning about the requirements and needs here. I will be at the Bitcoin meetup next week if you want to talk more.

Thanks to those that replied, including @tagbond, @Dabs and @execute. I appreciate your insights. 

I'm based in Las Vegas, USA, so unfortunately can't attend this meetup but I'll bet you'll see me at one in the near future.  I'm going to get the code nearer to test-ready stage, and then complete the company registration and banking locally. @tagbond, like you I plan to create a 100m Peso company so that I can register as a foreign-owned corporation although we'll have a local office.

[onlinedragon]

Today support still answered mine ticket. So they are not totally death still in doubt how this will end have 0.13 BTC pending.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Hippie Tech, I totally respect you but there's a whole thread about Cryptsy which Gleb Gamow and Spoetnik are spamming to death.  I fear this is going to turn into that.  I'm very interested in the state of affairs at Cryptsy but I can't get good info on this forum because of all the noise.

They aren't insolvent yet.  Have they made any official announcements?  I have a Cryptsy account still, and they've communicated nothing to me via e-mail.  I stopped using them weeks ago, however, so I can't say I've had any problems. 

[Gleb Gamow]

Hippie Tech, I totally respect you but there's a whole thread about Cryptsy which Gleb Gamow and Spoetnik are spamming to death.  I fear this is going to turn into that.  I'm very interested in the state of affairs at Cryptsy but I can't get good info on this forum because of all the noise.

They aren't insolvent yet.  Have they made any official announcements?  I have a Cryptsy account still, and they've communicated nothing to me via e-mail.  I stopped using them weeks ago, however, so I can't say I've had any problems.  

Spoetnik really pissed me off when he showed me his badge after I showed him my mine.  

BTW, in spite of all that 'spam' I've penned, I'm the first one who linked to proof of Paul Vernon's new million-dollar-plus digs purchased back in March of this year while his customer based was being banned from Cryptsy chat for simply inquiring 'bout withdraw issues.

[Hippie Tech]

Hippie Tech, I totally respect you but there's a whole thread about Cryptsy which Gleb Gamow and Spoetnik are spamming to death.  I fear this is going to turn into that.  I'm very interested in the state of affairs at Cryptsy but I can't get good info on this forum because of all the noise.

They aren't insolvent yet.  Have they made any official announcements?  I have a Cryptsy account still, and they've communicated nothing to me via e-mail.  I stopped using them weeks ago, however, so I can't say I've had any problems. 

What is worse.. that or your sketchbag exchange sig spam ?

Or it's possible java exploits..

http://quttera.com/detailed_report/yobit.net

[Hippie Tech]

Today support still answered mine ticket. So they are not totally death still in doubt how this will end have 0.13 BTC pending.

Are you here to help or are you here to spam us with your scamcoin exchange sig ?

Prove what you just said is true.

[nichlahghe5]

Im having no problem at cryptsy getting money in or out. I dont know what all the fuss is about.

[Spoetnik]

Hippie Tech, I totally respect you but there's a whole thread about Cryptsy which Gleb Gamow and Spoetnik are spamming to death.  I fear this is going to turn into that.  I'm very interested in the state of affairs at Cryptsy but I can't get good info on this forum because of all the noise.

They aren't insolvent yet.  Have they made any official announcements?  I have a Cryptsy account still, and they've communicated nothing to me via e-mail.  I stopped using them weeks ago, however, so I can't say I've had any problems.  

Thanks a lot that is beyond insulting WOW !

I have posted a shit load of information and so has Gleb that you coin as ALL "noise"

[Black*M]

Cryptsy 2 ? www.bitebi9.com

[jesselivermore]

Cryptsy 2 ? www.bitebi9.com

Ha! Sure looks like Craptsy to me.  Fleeing to China?

https://www.bitebi9.com/users/login

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Hippie Tech, I totally respect you but there's a whole thread about Cryptsy which Gleb Gamow and Spoetnik are spamming to death.  I fear this is going to turn into that.  I'm very interested in the state of affairs at Cryptsy but I can't get good info on this forum because of all the noise.

They aren't insolvent yet.  Have they made any official announcements?  I have a Cryptsy account still, and they've communicated nothing to me via e-mail.  I stopped using them weeks ago, however, so I can't say I've had any problems. 

What is worse.. that or your sketchbag exchange sig spam ?

Or it's possible java exploits..

http://quttera.com/detailed_report/yobit.net

Please.  My sig campaign participation is about 7 days long so far and I'd be posting the same thing if I wasn't in it.  I'm concerned about Cryptsy and its effect on bitcoin, that's it.  I'm trying to get a definitive answer about their solvency, not just a bunch of blather.  And I made my argument about spamming, which is undeniably happening. 

I'll drop the Yobit sig if they go scammer, but it hasn't happened yet.

[Black*M]

Hippie Tech, I totally respect you but there's a whole thread about Cryptsy which Gleb Gamow and Spoetnik are spamming to death.  I fear this is going to turn into that.  I'm very interested in the state of affairs at Cryptsy but I can't get good info on this forum because of all the noise.

They aren't insolvent yet.  Have they made any official announcements?  I have a Cryptsy account still, and they've communicated nothing to me via e-mail.  I stopped using them weeks ago, however, so I can't say I've had any problems. 

What is worse.. that or your sketchbag exchange sig spam ?

Or it's possible java exploits..

http://quttera.com/detailed_report/yobit.net

Please.  My sig campaign participation is about 7 days long so far and I'd be posting the same thing if I wasn't in it.  I'm concerned about Cryptsy and its effect on bitcoin, that's it.  I'm trying to get a definitive answer about their solvency, not just a bunch of blather.  And I made my argument about spamming, which is undeniably happening. 

I'll drop the Yobit sig if they go scammer, but it hasn't happened yet.

Cryptsy still not withdraw work more than 10 days and nothing , bad Exchange .

[Gleb Gamow]

Cryptsy 2 ? www.bitebi9.com

Ha! Sure looks like Craptsy to me.  Fleeing to China?

https://www.bitebi9.com/users/login

Looks like the Chat's working over there:

Terrik
Hello
Terrik
它是确定在这里进行交易？
Terrik
Hello again..
rdewilde197
Could you please add XPY (Paycoin) to the markets? Thanks
eddie13
这个地方会比OKCoin更多的数量，你知道它肯定前
Terrik
你可以添加NETcoin吗？

Hell, with all the activity, they may hire Leroy Fodor as mod, thus giving the place some cred. HAHAHA

[eddie13]

Looks like the Chat's working over there:

Terrik
Hello
Terrik
它是确定在这里进行交易？
Terrik
Hello again..
rdewilde197
Could you please add XPY (Paycoin) to the markets? Thanks
eddie13
这个地方会比OKCoin更多的数量，你知道它肯定前
Terrik
你可以添加NETcoin吗？

Hell, with all the activity, they may hire Leroy Fodor as mod, thus giving the place some cred. HAHAHA

Too bad you missed it before they wiped the chat.. Some cryptsy user posted stuff about "Chinese absorb US ball" and "china prefer american style penis" I ROFMLAO still just thinking about it..


Anyway I have tested this site with a few doge and it let me WD some RDD, it does work..

It was posted there "bitebi9 is not owned by cryptsy" which is the story all the cryptsy mods/admins also say but here http://domainbigdata.com/email/domains@projectinvestorsinc.com it clearly says that it is owned by paul vernon and project investors etc etc..

I have been trying to figure out bitebi9 ever since you, Gleb, posted a screenshot of it in the "FUD" thread, the really long class action one..

The site seems to be progressing like it is being built and slowly adding features like 2fa and forgot password functions, it's like it is in beta and we just kinda snuck into it..

[Hippie Tech]

That is funny hippietech i google mapped it and i use to live not far from him in the 90's
i still have family a few miles from, 265 Nottawasaga Street

at first i couldn't recall where that was it rang a bell (i lived in East Canada)
i figured it woudl be a suburb of greater Toronto.. nope.
It's way more north.. not even close.
So yeah you can't say it was close enough etc.

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Invalid whois phone number too.. that site can be taken down quick LOL

edit2:

Google Maps - Horus's House

Hmmm
That is one small house !
Is that his silver SUV ?
At least he has an AC box on the side but damn you gotta do some work on the house it's getting run down bro !

What are the odds that you, Horus and Crusty could have so much in common with regards to your past and present living arrangements ?

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For those not in the know, I have long suspected that Horus and Crusty (Crestington) are muddafudda.

[Hippie Tech]

Did Tagbond put on some weight and grow a beard ?

[Hippie Tech]

Less than two hours after creating his account, Spoetnoob launches Bunnycoin with a storyline that has become all too familiar.

I just found out about all this Bitcoin stuff 2/3 days ago but[...]
I already quit my job and have a prepaid my web hoster for my site 1 month in advance.
So i am dedicated to making this coin great for small miners and various projects i have planned.

You quit your job to do full time on this?  My respects!  Out of so many alt coins, only Litecoin seems to have made it, the rest such as Namecoin, Devcoin etc are still trying.  Do you have any family burdens etc?

ya there is a retard tied in the basement somewhere but "it's" easy to deal with i just gotta throw some garbage down there to keep it fed..

and may people quit there jobs to do the alt coin thing i know a guy at cryptsy who said he did just that actually.

This ain't no Bro-Coin !!

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sudo23 awwww don't hurtz the bunny

[nichlahghe5]

So are they now going to pull a mtgox and run away with our funds?
They are located stateside so we should be able to get some judgments against them.
Will there be a civil suit.

[HarryKPeters]

I dont thing Big Vern will do a runner.
He is way to big a public figure now. The Justice department will sue him before he can pull the plug.

Their strategy now is to earn more and get some of the stolen bitcoin back. Stolen because it makes no sense to
1) review EVERY withdrawal
2) increase the fees higher then any other exhanged on the market