[SPECULATION] Next big thing in online gambling?

[eternalgloom]

I want to believe that skill-based games will be a new thing, but it seems like they won't be a big thing because there will always be someone who will have more of an edge. It seems like luck is the main thing gamblers want to see.

I think the next thing in online gambling, however, will most likely be fancier slot/dice machines, or we might see thing like coin pushers become a thing, even though that is far harder to do than is probably worth it.

As it currently stands, the Bitcoin gambling scene is fairly saturated with basic sites, and it'll take someone making something flashier to convince anyone to switch whatever site they're comfortable with.

For skill based gambling games to work you'd need some popular network that hosts different kinds of games.
Something like what Pokerstars is for online poker.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Why not freshen things up on here with a speculation topic that asks the question: "What's your idea of the next big thing in online gambling?"

If someone is bored enough movie based video arcade games
Imagines ideas like star wars related pinball etc. Or it could be possible that arcade variants appear, that said the market tends to saturate amongst certain type of games so perhaps more plinko type games may appear as well.

[mrcashking]

I think the biggest thing already exists and is Dice without a doubt but some addition to it which might be the next big thing could be a no house dice or a negligible percentage of house edge.
i don't think people are interested in hundreds of new games anymore they need simplicity with a highest chance to win some coins.

[edmundduke]

Not really sure what the next big thing is because people are so attached to the old games that it is pretty hard to come out with something fresh. Even if new games get some traction the big players still play the games they like and that is unlikely to change.
I guess PVP games will enter the field a bit more but most of the gambling world will remain the same.

[Patatas]

I was thinking to start the game of 3 cards.The same one they play in Lock ,Stock and Two Smoking Barrels .This will change the gambling scenario as you won't play against any bots or any provably fair stuff.The cards will be distributed by an escrow who will held all your funds and accordingly two players can bet with each other real time.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

It's too late now because the football season is underway but some kind of a fantasy football competition would be cool.

Everybody pays to enter 1 team & the winner gets the combined bounty at the end of the season. Not sure if people know what I mean by fantasy football but there are several well known one's online.

[edmundduke]

It's too late now because the football season is underway but some kind of a fantasy football competition would be cool.

Everybody pays to enter 1 team & the winner gets the combined bounty at the end of the season. Not sure if people know what I mean by fantasy football but there are several well known one's online.

Hmmm i wouldn't actually mind if someone was to make one for bitcoin. It could be pretty cool, same for basketball and hockey also.
This i could see happening because they wouldn't have to "reinvent the wheel" but they could just modify it a bit and accept BTC if it was handled by someone trustworthy it could be very cool.

[Slark]

I doubt that we will see some new game which will take over the market. Standard casino games are known for centuries and people still enjoy them a lot.
I think next big thing in gambling will be linked to esports or gaming industry in general. Potentially we could see some AAA title with gambling mechanic introduced.
And seeing how esports and gaming world is rapidly evolving I think it would be question of 'when' rather than 'if'.

[Buziss]

I doubt that we will see some new game which will take over the market. Standard casino games are known for centuries and people still enjoy them a lot.

I am kind of with a different opinion with you here. While standard games (roulette, BJ, slots, sports betting, poker, etc) are still popular in the bitcoin gambling industry, the most popular game is dice and the bustabit game. The dice game is just another game of chance but the exact way it works (10000 possible outcome from 0.00 to 99.99 and players can choose whatever multipliers they want) is something nonexistence in brick and mortar casinos or traditional online casinos. The BAB game, on the other hand, is completely new AFAIK. With these in mind, I would not be surprised if one day someone invents a new fun game and get a big share of the gambling market.

[chennan]

It's too late now because the football season is underway but some kind of a fantasy football competition would be cool.

Everybody pays to enter 1 team & the winner gets the combined bounty at the end of the season. Not sure if people know what I mean by fantasy football but there are several well known one's online.

Hmmm i wouldn't actually mind if someone was to make one for bitcoin. It could be pretty cool, same for basketball and hockey also.
This i could see happening because they wouldn't have to "reinvent the wheel" but they could just modify it a bit and accept BTC if it was handled by someone trustworthy it could be very cool.

Personally I see this as the new big frontier for Bitcoin gambling. There's still a lot of room out there for new types of sports gambling games and sites to be created... Something like fantasy sports for every sport would be a very nice diverse option from the normal sports gambling sites that are out there right now.

[sir_lanka]

It's too late now because the football season is underway but some kind of a fantasy football competition would be cool.

Everybody pays to enter 1 team & the winner gets the combined bounty at the end of the season. Not sure if people know what I mean by fantasy football but there are several well known one's online.

Daily Fantasy has much bigger potential than season lenght.

[dogedice.me]

* House edges are going to go down. One of the biggest reasons bustabit gets such huge volumes (i think 2nd, after PD) is just because the house edge is very low. Even if you can't notice it (you really can't) it means you get a shit load more variance, and the same amount of money lasts a lot longer. I have a theory, that if a casino is not bankroll constraint (e.g. can offer the same limits) they'd might make more money with a 0.1% house edge, than a 1% (i.e. they might > x10 their volume). Just a nascent thought though.

I would disagree on this. Most gamblers' mind barely can see the difference, but increasing HE on just 0.5% would allow casino to provide much more regular rewards, higher rakebacks and various events with prizes. Which would attract more gamblers even from casinos with lower HE %.

Regards,
Alex.

[dogedice.me]

My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

#2 Professional service. Dice sites are dying. I think most casino owners would agree with me on this. To survive you need to pivot to a casino. It would require professional service, support, marketing, developers and designers. Each of them costs a lot of money, unless you are doing some lame product on bootstrap. (yeah, it's about BitDice too). And let's be clear, most dice site's doesn't generate money. By money I mean at least 30k USD monthly. Less is barely can be a business. And what is more important revenues should be stable, month to month.

#3 Engage. To make casino more attractive you need to engage gamblers in casino's life. Make a community. Levels, achievements, gamification, multiplayer games, like our slope which has failed, but we learned how we can make it worked and it will be on with our next version.

Regards,
Alex.

[BetKing.io]

My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

#2 Professional service. Dice sites are dying. I think most casino owners would agree with me on this. To survive you need to pivot to a casino. It would require professional service, support, marketing, developers and designers. Each of them costs a lot of money, unless you are doing some lame product on bootstrap. (yeah, it's about BitDice too). And let's be clear, most dice site's doesn't generate money. By money I mean at least 30k USD monthly. Less is barely can be a business. And what is more important revenues should be stable, month to month.

#3 Engage. To make casino more attractive you need to engage gamblers in casino's life. Make a community. Levels, achievements, gamification, multiplayer games, like our slope which has failed, but we learned how we can make it worked and it will be on with our next version.

Regards,
Alex.

Agree with most of this. Bet King has pivoted a few times in the 2.5+ years and it does look like dice is on the decline, seems some sites fake their stats in this regard.

Even with BK having one of if not the highest betting limits of any Bitcoin site when it comes to roulette it still hasn't seen much wagered. Obviously there could be improvements to the design, features and sounds but it is still better looking than most of the other popular Bitcoin sites roulette game.

In the new year Bet King will get a big update for casino, poker and sports (I'd like to add DFS at some point too) as well as some other ideas I've hinted at before.
 

[KenR]

My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

Totally agree with that. I only gamble on my phone because im too lazy to turn my computer on just to open a gamble website
If the game doesnt fit my screen or doesnt work on my phone I wouldnt play that game at all. The first impression on my mobile phone tells me if I will play it in the future.

[mtnsaa]

My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

#2 Professional service. Dice sites are dying. I think most casino owners would agree with me on this. To survive you need to pivot to a casino. It would require professional service, support, marketing, developers and designers. Each of them costs a lot of money, unless you are doing some lame product on bootstrap. (yeah, it's about BitDice too). And let's be clear, most dice site's doesn't generate money. By money I mean at least 30k USD monthly. Less is barely can be a business. And what is more important revenues should be stable, month to month.

#3 Engage. To make casino more attractive you need to engage gamblers in casino's life. Make a community. Levels, achievements, gamification, multiplayer games, like our slope which has failed, but we learned how we can make it worked and it will be on with our next version.

Regards,
Alex.

Yes I would add that bringing the mobile game apps monetization system into gambling would be great. People are paying to get weapon upgrades and virtual clothes and stupid things like that, so there must be a way to introduce gambling into cool games. However there is plenty of restrictions in this business in many countries so I know how hard it is (I've worked for many casino and gambling sites as a UI designer).

[chennan]

My 2 cents..

#1 Mobile first. We have almost 25% mobile gamblers. With latest flash decline and canceled flash support by Adobe, we will see huge increase of mobile games like slots, blackjack and other card games.

#2 Professional service. Dice sites are dying. I think most casino owners would agree with me on this. To survive you need to pivot to a casino. It would require professional service, support, marketing, developers and designers. Each of them costs a lot of money, unless you are doing some lame product on bootstrap. (yeah, it's about BitDice too). And let's be clear, most dice site's doesn't generate money. By money I mean at least 30k USD monthly. Less is barely can be a business. And what is more important revenues should be stable, month to month.

#3 Engage. To make casino more attractive you need to engage gamblers in casino's life. Make a community. Levels, achievements, gamification, multiplayer games, like our slope which has failed, but we learned how we can make it worked and it will be on with our next version.

Regards,
Alex.

Yes I would add that bringing the mobile game apps monetization system into gambling would be great. People are paying to get weapon upgrades and virtual clothes and stupid things like that, so there must be a way to introduce gambling into cool games. However there is plenty of restrictions in this business in many countries so I know how hard it is (I've worked for many casino and gambling sites as a UI designer).

There are actually apps where you can web browse through tor on any smart phone device.  So essentially, people who live in countries who are restricted by laws to gamble can gamble online either on laptops, desktops, or even on phone now by using apps that run tor. 

I don't know how safe these apps are and if they can make the IP address going through LTE devices show up on another IP address, but as of right now, I think this is the safest and most realistic alternative than trying to make apps for phones that allow you to gamble.  I don't think apple or android would ever allow actual gambling apps that's run through online gambling sites (especially with bitcoin) because of the legal consequences that follow them.

[iv4n]

I want to believe that skill-based games will be a new thing, but it seems like they won't be a big thing because there will always be someone who will have more of an edge. It seems like luck is the main thing gamblers want to see.

I think the next thing in online gambling, however, will most likely be fancier slot/dice machines, or we might see thing like coin pushers become a thing, even though that is far harder to do than is probably worth it.

As it currently stands, the Bitcoin gambling scene is fairly saturated with basic sites, and it'll take someone making something flashier to convince anyone to switch whatever site they're comfortable with.

For skill based gambling games to work you'd need some popular network that hosts different kinds of games.
Something like what Pokerstars is for online poker.

This is something I would like to see also.  I think Dragon tale is nice game how would it be to make something nicer, and bigger with more game's? I would like to see some other card games in bitcoin gambling. And what about racing car games, and some other sport games? Well i hope someone will make it soo.

[Dabs]

I've got a few ideas, but like some other not-so-rich people, my own site isn't making enough money (for me anyway) to fund the other ideas waiting. And it took me a couple of years before I could start my own site. The years before that, I attempted a few forum-based games, more as an experiment.

I tried to make a provably fair poker game. The idea works. But the players didn't want to play.

I tried to make a lotto game, which lasted about a year. (Mr. RHavar, you could pick some ideas from that thread if you want.)

I've got a few more couple of ideas for casinos, that I believe would be big, but selfishly don't want to share it, hahahaha, so like that other guy, it will just be an idea in my little notebook. I'm thinking, I'll be in a better position in another couple of years to actually try it out, and I'm betting no one else has the same idea. (This is a gamble in itself. Can you imagine if you invented SatoshiDice when it started?)

And since the dawn of investable bitcoin casinos, I've found one way to make gambling provably fair for non-owner investors; at the cost of time. Slow games aren't as exciting as fast games. That's true for sports, for real life, for war, and anything that has some sort of competition.

I mean, no one wants to be a cockroach even if you could survive a nuclear bomb. No one wants to be a plant that can't move. (That's why there's a non-gambling game that has moving plants that fight against slow moving zombies, haha.)

For everyone else, if you have an idea, let me give you an idea of what it would cost to make your game. You would need to spend anywhere between 10 to 20 to 30 BTC (or fiat equivalent) to hire your coder, unless you can code it yourself. When you start out, you will need to buy a few things like your domain ($10 a year), maybe a SSL cert ($5 a year unless you want Extended Validation), and decent hosting ($50 a month for a VPS type of thing, to $100's for a dedicated server or cloud solution or gaming something.)

And then there's marketing.

On top of all that, if it's gambling, either you have to fly under the radar (or be anonymous), or you get the proper licenses, or just be able to run it with some sort of impunity or protection. (Like me, no one is going to hunt me down for my little dice game.)

Here's an experiment, can I invite the readers of this thread to look at my site? It's been out for several months, but if you have never seen it until today, then, well, that's my poor marketing skills (or maybe I really just don't have the time to spend on it like I should be doing.)

When you run a bitcoin game site, it has to be a full time job for you. It's not for me, that's why I'm not making money on it. It's like catch-22, I will run it full time if I make money, but since I'm not making money, I can't run it full time. LOL.

For you people who do have the money to try something, but don't have your own ideas, would you like to take a gamble on my ideas? I've handled money as escrow, and as part of my real life job. I just don't have my own money to do it right now. Honesty system, take my ideas, make it a website, and we'll talk. But to weed out the wannabes, I will need proof (easy, just sign a bitcoin address right?) or reputation or, something else that convinces me.

[debuni]

I want to see browser or part of player's software plugin for provably fair poker card dealing.
Because there are always speculations about poker sites RNGs. Including PokerStars.
There is just two problems: First, poker is lesser revenue venture of all gambling sites (dice,casino,sportbook and even bingo). This exclude PokerStars. Second, is BTC price fluctuation. Till there are +/- 50-100 in a months, serious players will stay stick to fiat. Aldo all gambling sites are winning from recreational players mainly.