Enermax TwisterStorm

[P4ndoraBox7]

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9590605

Would you recommend it ? I bought one but while I'm waiting I want to be sure.

ENERMAX TwisterStorm - Super 3500 Max RPM Twister Fan - Shift Speed Control (1500/2500/3500 RPM), Twister Bearing, Black - UCTS12A

The specs are the following ;

Overclocking mode ;

2500 RPM
115.75 CFM
30 DB

Turbo mode ;

3500 RPM
154.53 CFM
38 DB

[dogie]

Recommend it for what?

[Beastlymac]

if you're planning on using it for cooling a setup 24/7. It is best to use a server fan instead of a regular computer fan as it will most likely last longer. But it will probably be louder.

-- As a general comment

if you're planning on using it for cooling a setup 24/7. It is best to use a server fan instead of a regular computer fan as it will most likely last longer. But it will probably be louder.

Well... its got a 160k MTFB = 18 years 24/7.

Dogie has a good point. Thanks

[dogie]

if you're planning on using it for cooling a setup 24/7. It is best to use a server fan instead of a regular computer fan as it will most likely last longer. But it will probably be louder.

Well... its got a 160k MTFB = 18 years 24/7.

[P4ndoraBox7]

For a S5, quieter job and keep performance.

[philipma1957]

For a S5, quieter job and keep performance.

it may be good for that.

 many use this one

below


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

[P4ndoraBox7]

For a S5, quieter job and keep performance.

it may be good for that.

 many use this one

below


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Yeah that one or the noctua...still I think the TwisterStorm has better stats and you may control manually the RPM

Thanks for your time.

[philipma1957]

For a S5, quieter job and keep performance.

it may be good for that.

 many use this one

below


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Yeah that one or the noctua...still I think the TwisterStorm has better stats and you may control manually the RPM

Thanks for your time.

I have the 3000 rpm noctua it is not that good on the  s-5

[P4ndoraBox7]

For a S5, quieter job and keep performance.

it may be good for that.

 many use this one

below


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Yeah that one or the noctua...still I think the TwisterStorm has better stats and you may control manually the RPM

Thanks for your time.

I have the 3000 rpm noctua it is not that good on the  s-5

ah yes ? Allright. The noctua and the TwisterStorm are about the same...Will wait to receive it and if it worth the shot ill make a review.

[VirosaGITS]

For a S5, quieter job and keep performance.

it may be good for that.

 many use this one

below


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Yeah that one or the noctua...still I think the TwisterStorm has better stats and you may control manually the RPM

Thanks for your time.

I have the 3000 rpm noctua it is not that good on the  s-5

ah yes ? Allright. The noctua and the TwisterStorm are about the same...Will wait to receive it and if it worth the shot ill make a review.

Please do. On paper it look more performant than the S1 fans i use on some of my S5. Having a cooling upgrade while reducing noise produced would be a relief, but they look kind of flimsy compared to the fans that really does the job.

[P4ndoraBox7]

Yep I made a lot of search and on paper the twisterstorm seem way better... When I'll receive it i'll make a little something.

[QuintLeo]

 Twister bearing, aka "rifle" "hydro" etc is nothing more than a fancy sleeve bearing type.
 I recommend AGAINST any version of a sleeve bearing on a fan.


 Manufacturer MBF ratings from most fan makers tend to be wildly optimistic, assuming lab-level CLEAN AND COOL conditions among other things - ball bearing fans tend to be the ONLY ones that actually achieve their rated MBF in REAL WORLD usage, and even some of THOSE are rated somewhat optimistically.

 That's one of the reasons "push" is almost always better than "pull" for cooling - the "pull" configuration runs the fan a lot hotter, making it a lot more likely to overheat and fail faster.

[P4ndoraBox7]

Twister bearing, aka "rifle" "hydro" etc is nothing more than a fancy sleeve bearing type.
 I recommend AGAINST any version of a sleeve bearing on a fan.


 Manufacturer MBF ratings from most fan makers tend to be wildly optimistic, assuming lab-level CLEAN AND COOL conditions among other things - ball bearing fans tend to be the ONLY ones that actually achieve their rated MBF in REAL WORLD usage, and even some of THOSE are rated somewhat optimistically.

 That's one of the reasons "push" is almost always better than "pull" for cooling - the "pull" configuration runs the fan a lot hotter, making it a lot more likely to overheat and fail faster.

Thanks for your though, I'll take it in consideration when ill receive and test it.

[VirosaGITS]

Twister bearing, aka "rifle" "hydro" etc is nothing more than a fancy sleeve bearing type.
 I recommend AGAINST any version of a sleeve bearing on a fan.


 Manufacturer MBF ratings from most fan makers tend to be wildly optimistic, assuming lab-level CLEAN AND COOL conditions among other things - ball bearing fans tend to be the ONLY ones that actually achieve their rated MBF in REAL WORLD usage, and even some of THOSE are rated somewhat optimistically.

 That's one of the reasons "push" is almost always better than "pull" for cooling - the "pull" configuration runs the fan a lot hotter, making it a lot more likely to overheat and fail faster.

Thanks for your though, I'll take it in consideration when ill receive and test it.

It should be fine, those fans apparently are easy to clean, which is where the real problem is for real world life time of the unit. (The item description mention that the fan is easily detachable for cleaning)

Its like those GPU fans i have on my 280x, i just pop them off, clean them with a qtip, at a speckle of lubricant and they run like knew for another 6 months. (And again, 3 times now)

[P4ndoraBox7]

I guess there should be a section here about Miner Tuning lawlz.

[QuintLeo]

Twister bearing, aka "rifle" "hydro" etc is nothing more than a fancy sleeve bearing type.
 I recommend AGAINST any version of a sleeve bearing on a fan.


 Manufacturer MBF ratings from most fan makers tend to be wildly optimistic, assuming lab-level CLEAN AND COOL conditions among other things - ball bearing fans tend to be the ONLY ones that actually achieve their rated MBF in REAL WORLD usage, and even some of THOSE are rated somewhat optimistically.

 That's one of the reasons "push" is almost always better than "pull" for cooling - the "pull" configuration runs the fan a lot hotter, making it a lot more likely to overheat and fail faster.

Thanks for your though, I'll take it in consideration when ill receive and test it.

It should be fine, those fans apparently are easy to clean, which is where the real problem is for real world life time of the unit. (The item description mention that the fan is easily detachable for cleaning)

Its like those GPU fans i have on my 280x, i just pop them off, clean them with a qtip, at a speckle of lubricant and they run like knew for another 6 months. (And again, 3 times now)

 I vastly prefer fans that don't NEED cleaning, as fans that get dirty and stop running tend to KILL electronic gear before you get the chance to notice the fan died.
 Ball bearing fans are a TON better at "don't need cleaning" than ANY sleeve-bearing or varient design, as they're designed to NOT NEED LUBRICANT JUST TO RUN AT ALL.


 I'll take a "40000 hour MBTF" Delta over any "160000 MBTF" piece of junk sleeve/hydro/rifle/twister type design, as the Delta might actually last that 40000 hours where the sleeve/hydro/rifle/twister/etc. type design will be lucky to make 10000 before it locks up the first time, and will probably have completely died before 20000.

[P4ndoraBox7]

still you can remove fan blades of the twisterstorm...lot easier to clean.

[VirosaGITS]

Twister bearing, aka "rifle" "hydro" etc is nothing more than a fancy sleeve bearing type.
 I recommend AGAINST any version of a sleeve bearing on a fan.


 Manufacturer MBF ratings from most fan makers tend to be wildly optimistic, assuming lab-level CLEAN AND COOL conditions among other things - ball bearing fans tend to be the ONLY ones that actually achieve their rated MBF in REAL WORLD usage, and even some of THOSE are rated somewhat optimistically.

 That's one of the reasons "push" is almost always better than "pull" for cooling - the "pull" configuration runs the fan a lot hotter, making it a lot more likely to overheat and fail faster.

Thanks for your though, I'll take it in consideration when ill receive and test it.

It should be fine, those fans apparently are easy to clean, which is where the real problem is for real world life time of the unit. (The item description mention that the fan is easily detachable for cleaning)

Its like those GPU fans i have on my 280x, i just pop them off, clean them with a qtip, at a speckle of lubricant and they run like knew for another 6 months. (And again, 3 times now)

 I vastly prefer fans that don't NEED cleaning, as fans that get dirty and stop running tend to KILL electronic gear before you get the chance to notice the fan died.
 Ball bearing fans are a TON better at "don't need cleaning" than ANY sleeve-bearing or varient design, as they're designed to NOT NEED LUBRICANT JUST TO RUN AT ALL.


 I'll take a "40000 hour MBTF" Delta over any "160000 MBTF" piece of junk sleeve/hydro/rifle/twister type design, as the Delta might actually last that 40000 hours where the sleeve/hydro/rifle/twister/etc. type design will be lucky to make 10000 before it locks up the first time, and will probably have completely died before 20000.

Oh no, you have to clean it every 416 days, thats a shame.(?)

Yes i clean my fan once a year, and for that year, they make no noise. If you prefer using fans that are 8-10 time louder because they will do your 2 years of miner use without slowing down (they will just rattle even more loudly), then thats a-ok with me.

But i don't see how you can rationalize quiet fan lasting 1 year without needing maintenance is "crap fans".

[QuintLeo]

I've had too many Deltas last 10+ years without NEEDING "cleaning".
Can't say if they'll last longer than that, I've still never had a Delta die and the oldest of them I've got would be around 12 years old.

 I've had WAY too many shit "sleeve bearing" fans that didn't even make it to ONE year before they jammed up and died - and caused the gear they were on to overheat and die as well.

 You're ASSUMING I have only used Deltas on miner gear - I was using them years before Bitcoin EXISTED.
 Does "Alpha 8045" mean anything to you?
 No, I didn't use the 80cfm screamers, but I do still have some of the one-step down 68CFM Deltas, currently in use in 2u rack-mount cases.
 

I do miss the days of Rotron metal-frame fans - I've got a couple of those that I bought used back in the 1980s THAT ARE STILL RUNNING.
 THOSE were good, reliable fans.


 Also, not all Deltas are super-noisy, just the ones that move massive amounts of air - as are ANY of the few 120mm fan models in the 200CFM+ range from ANY manufacturer.

[VirosaGITS]

I've had too many Deltas last 10+ years without NEEDING "cleaning".
Can't say if they'll last longer than that, I've still never had a Delta die and the oldest of them I've got would be around 12 years old.

 I've had WAY too many shit "sleeve bearing" fans that didn't even make it to ONE year before they jammed up and died - and caused the gear they were on to overheat and die as well.

 You're ASSUMING I have only used Deltas on miner gear - I was using them years before Bitcoin EXISTED.
 Does "Alpha 8045" mean anything to you?
 No, I didn't use the 80cfm screamers, but I do still have some of the one-step down 68CFM Deltas, currently in use in 2u rack-mount cases.
 

I do miss the days of Rotron metal-frame fans - I've got a couple of those that I bought used back in the 1980s THAT ARE STILL RUNNING.
 THOSE were good, reliable fans.


 Also, not all Deltas are super-noisy, just the ones that move massive amounts of air - as are ANY of the few 120mm fan models in the 200CFM+ range from ANY manufacturer.

Clearly, the fact you picked a poor quality ones make all of them crap. Its not like i've had some running silent for 3 years now or anything.(?)

Whenever i clean them (about 3 of them out of 18 each year) they then perform as quiet as ever. I never had a problem with one of them "suddenly stopping and killing whatever it was cooling" They get visibly slow, spin slower, stop faster, make noise and the temp of whatever is cooling will raise. When they start showing tell tale of needing to be cleaned, i have 1-2 months to clean them before they stop.

Its pretty easy to tell, since they are right next to me and i can't ear them. Also if you have 2 on a miner, its not like having 1 slow down is going to kill your miner.