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Increasingly, the modern perversion of “rights” leads to little but wrongs. And one of the best current examples is the movement to legitimize pedophilia. InfoWars reported on the subject just recently, writing:
Leftist media is now promoting “pedophile rights” as the next “social justice” movement….
Numerous political commentators predicted that pedophiles would try to hijack the June 26 Supreme Court decision on same-sex marriages to argue that they too are “suffering” discrimination over their “normal” sexual orientation.
“Using the same tactics used by ‘gay’ rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals [sic],” wrote Jack Minor for the Northern Colorado Gazette.
In reality, though, the pedophilia-acceptance movement greatly predates the unconstitutional Obergefell marriage ruling. As I wrote in the 2013 piece “The Slippery Slope to Pedophilia”:
On January 14 of this year, the Los Angeles Times ran an article entitled, “Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia: Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.” (Emphasis in original.) The piece starts out with a story about one Paul Christiano, who, as a young child, was fascinated by girls and loved “how their spindly bodies tumbled in gymnastics,” wrote the paper. We’re then told that while Christiano grew up, his sexual tastes didn’t: He remained tormented by an attraction to pre-pubescent girls. Christiano is the “sympathetic character,” mind you, the hapless soul meant to put a human face on pedophilia. But now consider what he said about unsuccessful court-ordered therapy he was forced to undergo after being caught with child pornography in 1999. As the Times reported, “‘These people felt they could snuff out the desire, or shame me into denying it existed,’ he said. ‘But it’s as intrinsic as the next person’s heterosexuality.’”
“As intrinsic as the next person’s heterosexuality… ” Where have we heard that before?
The paper then did something else that should sound familiar. Giving Christiano’s claim the imprimatur of science, it wrote, “In the laboratory, researchers are coming to the same conclusion.” Many experts now view pedophilia as “a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality…, a deep-rooted predisposition … that becomes clear during puberty and does not change.... Scientists at the Toronto center [Center for Mental Health and Addiction in Toronto] have uncovered a series of associations that suggest pedophilia has biological roots.”
The problem? If we lived in a eugenicist time (e.g., the early 20th-century), the above would be used as further justification for selective breeding. Today, mainly due to the effort to legitimize homosexuality, the notion that “it’s okay if I was born that way” has taken hold. Often articulated as “God doesn’t make mistakes,” it’s rhetorically very effective. Of course, whether an atheist who considers the world naturally flawed or a theist believing it supernaturally fallen, cleft lip, Spina bifida, Down syndrome, club foot, Tay-Sachs disease, and other abnormalities make clear that God’s perfection isn’t enjoyed by man. And is it logical to consider the brain the one organ immune from this imperfection? Note also that the same psychologists telling us homosexuality is innate also say that psychopaths are born and not made. Now, if some people were born with homicidal instincts, would it be alright for them to commit murder?
A silly question? No more so than asking “If some people are born with homosexual feelings, is it alright for them to engage in homosexual behavior?” It may or may not be alright, but this has nothing whatsoever to do with inborn status. For genetics does not determine “morality.” Saying otherwise is to eliminate morality and replace it with biological determinism, which reduces man to animal.
Also realize that discriminating among inborn-urge driven behaviors — saying some are “right” and some “wrong” — means judging them with a yardstick (be it God’s law, social codes, etc.); this means that the yardstick is being placed above biology, thus contravening the biological-determinism argument.
The problem, however, is that the above reasoning (the nerd) has trouble competing in a popularity contest with the popular kids: sound-bite slogans and emotional appeals. As to this, just as recent decades have seen a “conversion of the average American’s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of [homosexual] propaganda fed to the nation via the media” — as prescribed in the homosexual-activist book After the Ball — so has entertainment already been placed in the service of pedophilia.
Just consider the film For a Lost Soldier (1993), which quite vividly and sympathetically relates the true story of a WWII-era sexual relationship between a Canadian serviceman and a 13-year-old European boy. The New York Times' review of the movie was entitled “Treating a Delicate Story of a Soldier and a Boy Tenderly” and actually stated that the work “takes up … a romantic relationship between a grown-up and a child, and invests it with an aching tenderness.” Then there was 2001’s LIE, which featured a pederast named Big John. About it the Times wrote, compared “with Howie’s [the 15-year-old main character’s] well-meaning but clueless guidance counselor, Big John seems like a benign, common-sensical uncle.”
Of course, such films and their reviews are still rare, but the relativism justifying them — and a whole lot more — is anything but. Note that a Barna Group research study found that in 2002 already only six percent of teens (now all adults who can vote) believed in moral absolutes. And is it any surprise? We now live in a time when some of the most popular refrains are “Who is to judge?” “Everything is a matter of perspective,” “That’s your truth; someone else’s may be different,” and “If it feels good, do it.”
It may be hard to believe that pedophilia is following the well-worn path of homosexuality. But know that not only is there great historical precedent for the sexualization of minors — pederasty was widely accepted in ancient Athens and Sparta — we already see tolerance for pedophilia among our “elites.” Consider the following:
• Obama’s military brass has ordered American soldiers in Afghanistan to ignore the sexual abuse of young boys by Afghan “allies” — even on U.S. military bases — partially in deference to “cultural sensitivity.”
• The media have largely ignored child sex abuse in government schools, despite a 2004 government-sponsored study indicating that it is 100 times the magnitude of the Catholic Church sex scandal.
• Hollywood pedophiles are apparently “everywhere, like vultures,” as former child actor Cory Feldman put it, but are protected by power and privilege.
• Likewise, the powers-that-be have long protected pedophiles within the British government.
• Also in the U.K., politically correct authorities have ignored Muslim child sex-trafficking rings for fear of being called “racist.”
Of course, there’s a difference between the “elites” and the man of the street. But realize that the homosexuality agenda’s embrace also began among the former, finding a home in academia and then being mainstreamed by media and entertainment. Also realize that the “Who’s to judge?” mantra may be convenient when justifying one’s favored sins. But if the things we like are all relative, the things we dislike are relative, too. As novelist Walter Scott might agree, “What a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive” — ourselves with fashionable philoso-babble.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- What about the rights of the children? Not victims anymore? Tragic. Disgusting.
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Some of the LGBT activists want to extend the term to include beastiality and pedophilia. "LGBTBP" is the term proposed by them. There are pro-pedophile groups in various Western European countries, and these organizations receive legal and financial support from the LGBT lobbying groups. Vereniging Martijn of the Netherlands and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMbLA) are examples.
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December 19, 2015, 02:53:46 PM |
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Some of the LGBT activists want to extend the term to include bestiality and pedophilia. "LGBTBP" is the term proposed by them. There are pro-pedophile groups in various Western European countries, and these organizations receive legal and financial support from the LGBT lobbying groups. Vereniging Martijn of the Netherlands and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMbLA) are examples.
Having a conversation about the rights of adults taking away the rights of children is insane. And yet this will be the next battle. Some taboos are almost universal. Almost I said because in some countries or religion, 7 is an appropriate age... ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) PETA should be against bestiality, in theory. Why would gays to be associated with those people? They believe people are born gay. But do they believe some are born to be rapped too?
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December 19, 2015, 03:43:42 PM |
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Well yeah, what a surprise. Take a look at the weirdos and deviants and fruitcakes in charge both sides of the Atlantic. Of course it´s unfair to those screwballs - and the people that for some mysterious reasons vote for them in so called elections - to mention the connection between cause and effect, but still...
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December 19, 2015, 03:54:06 PM |
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Some of the LGBT activists want to extend the term to include beastiality and pedophilia. "LGBTBP" is the term proposed by them. There are pro-pedophile groups in various Western European countries, and these organizations receive legal and financial support from the LGBT lobbying groups. Vereniging Martijn of the Netherlands and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMbLA) are examples.
Why are these groups even legal? Some of the LGBT activists want to extend the term to include bestiality and pedophilia. "LGBTBP" is the term proposed by them. There are pro-pedophile groups in various Western European countries, and these organizations receive legal and financial support from the LGBT lobbying groups. Vereniging Martijn of the Netherlands and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMbLA) are examples.
Having a conversation about the rights of adults taking away the rights of children is insane. And yet this will be the next battle. Some taboos are almost universal. Almost I said because in some countries or religion, 7 is an appropriate age... ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) In some Islamic countries pedophilia is not illegal and not a taboo. Marry a 10 year old is normal there.. but they are backwards.
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December 19, 2015, 03:58:03 PM |
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A transgender father who abandoned his seven children to start a new life as a “6-year-old girl” is being celebrated by some fruitcakes as a shining example of diversity. You can´t make this shit up. Where do you think those ideas come from? Does leadership influence what it leads?
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December 19, 2015, 04:18:26 PM |
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A transgender father who abandoned his seven children to start a new life as a “6-year-old girl” is being celebrated by some fruitcakes as a shining example of diversity. You can´t make this shit up. Where do you think those ideas come from? Does leadership influence what it leads?
Can you link to the source of this article? These ideas come from one or more people who have money to donate to the media.
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December 19, 2015, 04:29:10 PM |
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A transgender father who abandoned his seven children to start a new life as a “6-year-old girl” is being celebrated by some fruitcakes as a shining example of diversity. You can´t make this shit up. Where do you think those ideas come from? Does leadership influence what it leads?
Can you link to the source of this article? These ideas come from one or more people who have money to donate to the media. Link to the source? Have you been on another freakin planet lately? You´re on the internet, try searching for it transgender father seven children - put that in the address bar and hit enter.
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December 19, 2015, 04:54:55 PM |
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In western world fagots, pedos and all that twisted dudes with wide range of sexual deviations were hiding for centuries. In that time they got to satisfy their needs secretly so they develop sort of secret organization helping each other just like freemasons. At some point lot of them got on top, become very influential, used their influence and now we have this. Before few decades, it was shame to be fagot and now it is sort of fashion in western world. What to fuck is next? Looks like in next few decades straight ppl will have to hide.
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December 19, 2015, 05:08:42 PM |
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At some point you´ll get demands for rights of people that like torturing others to death. The ground has already been prepared, psychopaths in power have been employing their ilk in "legally" abusing and torturing captives. It´s business as usual and it´s obvious where it´s heading.
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December 19, 2015, 05:47:24 PM |
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At some point you´ll get demands for rights of people that like torturing others to death. The ground has already been prepared, psychopaths in power have been employing their ilk in "legally" abusing and torturing captives. It´s business as usual and it´s obvious where it´s heading.
In some of the Western countries, it is just impossible to lead a religious heterosexual lifestyle. Home education is banned, and the children are under constant brainwashing in the schools and colleges from extreme left-wing teachers and professors. Anyone who disagrees with their views is being branded as racist, xenophobic, and homophobic.
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December 19, 2015, 06:17:49 PM |
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This is a delicate manner but I always tried to put myself in the shoes of many of these persons who didn't commit any crime but had always to restraint this primal instinct that they were born with or acquired at an early age (possibly from abuse on themselves). We may want to think of them as complete evil persons but deep down I think we are afraid of them because we know most of them are real persons with the same emotions as the rest of us. The act of raping children is completely wrong and out of the question here of course, there should be no rights or discussion about that. But having a primal attraction for them and not acting out seems to me more like tragic than evil, I don't think they want to be that way or have that feeling but they just do. Modern medicine can't give them a pill, theraphy doesn't work, they won't go away and they will always exist.
Maybe we can accept and be open to the ones that exist but refrain to do any harm? I recently saw in a documentary there is a forum for them and that got me thinking.
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December 19, 2015, 06:26:24 PM |
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This is a delicate manner but I always tried to put myself in the shoes of many of these persons who didn't commit any crime but had always to restraint this primal instinct that they were born with or acquired at an early age (possibly from abuse on themselves). We may want to think of them as complete evil persons but deep down I think we are afraid of them because we know most of them are real persons with the same emotions as the rest of us. The act of raping children is completely wrong and out of the question here of course, there should be no rights or discussion about that. But having a primal attraction for them and not acting out seems to me more like tragic than evil, I don't think they want to be that way or have that feeling but they just do. Modern medicine can't give them a pill, theraphy doesn't work, they won't go away and they will always exist.
Maybe we can accept and be open to the ones that exist but refrain to do any harm? I recently saw in a documentary there is a forum for them and that got me thinking.
I think they should be taken out of circulation in the interests of public safety. Same goes for homicidal maniacs and other deviants that idiots vote into office in so-called democracies. And all the psychopaths around them, their baggage, that nobody voted for in any elections. This was already desperately urgent a decade or more ago and is way beyond a crisis by now.
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December 19, 2015, 06:33:50 PM |
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This is a delicate manner but I always tried to put myself in the shoes of many of these persons who didn't commit any crime but had always to restraint this primal instinct that they were born with or acquired at an early age (possibly from abuse on themselves). We may want to think of them as complete evil persons but deep down I think we are afraid of them because we know most of them are real persons with the same emotions as the rest of us. The act of raping children is completely wrong and out of the question here of course, there should be no rights or discussion about that. But having a primal attraction for them and not acting out seems to me more like tragic than evil, I don't think they want to be that way or have that feeling but they just do. Modern medicine can't give them a pill, theraphy doesn't work, they won't go away and they will always exist.
Maybe we can accept and be open to the ones that exist but refrain to do any harm? I recently saw in a documentary there is a forum for them and that got me thinking.
I think they should be taken out of circulation in the interests of public safety. Same goes for homicidal maniacs and other deviants that idiots vote into office in so-called democracies. And all the psychopaths around them, their baggage, that nobody voted for in any elections. This was already desperately urgent a decade or more ago and is way beyond a crisis by now. And afterwards kill everyone with a iq under 130. My world will be paradise then ^_^
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December 19, 2015, 06:37:55 PM |
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This is a delicate manner but I always tried to put myself in the shoes of many of these persons who didn't commit any crime but had always to restraint this primal instinct that they were born with or acquired at an early age (possibly from abuse on themselves). We may want to think of them as complete evil persons but deep down I think we are afraid of them because we know most of them are real persons with the same emotions as the rest of us. The act of raping children is completely wrong and out of the question here of course, there should be no rights or discussion about that. But having a primal attraction for them and not acting out seems to me more like tragic than evil, I don't think they want to be that way or have that feeling but they just do. Modern medicine can't give them a pill, theraphy doesn't work, they won't go away and they will always exist.
Maybe we can accept and be open to the ones that exist but refrain to do any harm? I recently saw in a documentary there is a forum for them and that got me thinking.
I think they should be taken out of circulation in the interests of public safety. Same goes for homicidal maniacs and other deviants that idiots vote into office in so-called democracies. And all the psychopaths around them, their baggage, that nobody voted for in any elections. This was already desperately urgent a decade or more ago and is way beyond a crisis by now. And afterwards kill everyone with a iq under 130. My world will be paradise then ^_^ I can understand that the concept public safety is totally foreign to people that have been brainwashed by these nutballs in charge and their ilk in garbage media. Obviously they don´t give the connection between cause and effect much thought either, maybe they think that these nuts just appear somehow randomly into positions of power.
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December 19, 2015, 06:47:44 PM |
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This is a delicate manner but I always tried to put myself in the shoes of many of these persons who didn't commit any crime but had always to restraint this primal instinct that they were born with or acquired at an early age (possibly from abuse on themselves). We may want to think of them as complete evil persons but deep down I think we are afraid of them because we know most of them are real persons with the same emotions as the rest of us. The act of raping children is completely wrong and out of the question here of course, there should be no rights or discussion about that. But having a primal attraction for them and not acting out seems to me more like tragic than evil, I don't think they want to be that way or have that feeling but they just do. Modern medicine can't give them a pill, theraphy doesn't work, they won't go away and they will always exist.
Maybe we can accept and be open to the ones that exist but refrain to do any harm? I recently saw in a documentary there is a forum for them and that got me thinking.
I think they should be taken out of circulation in the interests of public safety. Same goes for homicidal maniacs and other deviants that idiots vote into office in so-called democracies. And all the psychopaths around them, their baggage, that nobody voted for in any elections. This was already desperately urgent a decade or more ago and is way beyond a crisis by now. And afterwards kill everyone with a iq under 130. My world will be paradise then ^_^ I can understand that the concept public safety is totally foreign to people that have been brainwashed by these nutballs in charge and their ilk in garbage media. Obviously they don´t give the connection between cause and effect much thought either, maybe they think that these nuts just appear somehow randomly into positions of power. You see if everyone would have atleast a iq of 130 you think we would have something like religious fundamentalism? People that vote bush? Nobel peace prize for obama? Brainwashed google and youtube internet warriors, conspiracy nutjobs and a trillion other crazy things? Public safety would have the most from that eugenics program....
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December 19, 2015, 06:49:12 PM |
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This is a delicate manner but I always tried to put myself in the shoes of many of these persons who didn't commit any crime but had always to restraint this primal instinct that they were born with or acquired at an early age (possibly from abuse on themselves). We may want to think of them as complete evil persons but deep down I think we are afraid of them because we know most of them are real persons with the same emotions as the rest of us. The act of raping children is completely wrong and out of the question here of course, there should be no rights or discussion about that. But having a primal attraction for them and not acting out seems to me more like tragic than evil, I don't think they want to be that way or have that feeling but they just do. Modern medicine can't give them a pill, theraphy doesn't work, they won't go away and they will always exist.
Maybe we can accept and be open to the ones that exist but refrain to do any harm? I recently saw in a documentary there is a forum for them and that got me thinking.
I think they should be taken out of circulation in the interests of public safety. Same goes for homicidal maniacs and other deviants that idiots vote into office in so-called democracies. And all the psychopaths around them, their baggage, that nobody voted for in any elections. This was already desperately urgent a decade or more ago and is way beyond a crisis by now. And afterwards kill everyone with a iq under 130. My world will be paradise then ^_^ I can understand that the concept public safety is totally foreign to people that have been brainwashed by these nutballs in charge and their ilk in garbage media. Obviously they don´t give the connection between cause and effect much thought either, maybe they think that these nuts just appear somehow randomly into positions of power. You see if everyone would have atleast a iq of 130 you think we would have something like religious fundamentalism? People that vote bush? Nobel peace prize for obama? Brainwashed google and youtube internet warriors aka conspiracy nutjobs and a trillion other crazy things? This is totally devoid of any meaningful content. Bye.
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December 19, 2015, 06:59:05 PM |
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Sorry if i hit a tender spot of yours ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) But it is fine if you have a iq under 130... as long i dont come into power ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) My advice is exactly as meaningful as yours, just that it doesnt support your agenda and would put you into the death row too.
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December 19, 2015, 07:01:14 PM |
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How to treat pedophiles:
a. Electroshock therapy. b. Brain surgery. c. Castration. d. Prison with no chance of parole. e. Public executions.
Children's right to be safe, secure, and protected come first. No ifs, ands, or buts.
Killing everyone with an iq under 130 is a ridiculous analogy btw.
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