Holdaaja
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March 04, 2016, 11:03:53 AM |
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Yes of course what do you think it is? How would you classify it if not a fetish? Well, technically it isn't fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.
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mainpmf
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March 04, 2016, 11:15:50 AM |
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There is something I don't understand...
You keep talking about pedophilia as if it was something perticulary strange and horrible, something that should be destroyed by all means and which is not natural at all.
The fact is... Pedophilia is just a sexual orientation. You're saying "This is something morbid." but it IS a sexual orientation. Like liking men, women, animals, objects, trees...
The only difference (but don't make me say what I didn't say, it's an important difference) is that we can't tolerate such sexual orientation. Because this sexual orientation implies a non mutual consent. Same for animals.
But don' try to find another word to describe it. It's not a fetish or a disgusting thing or anything like this. It's a sexual orientation. One we can't tolerate because it would violate basic human and children rights, but it's still a sexual orientation.
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mainpmf
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March 04, 2016, 11:25:13 AM |
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No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part. What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it. And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished. If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever. Seems like what he's afraid of is the acceptation of the sexual orientation by the public.
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arbitrage
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March 04, 2016, 01:20:23 PM |
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No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.
What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it. And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.
If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.
I know this is not fetish! This was question to all, if you seen my quoted sentence This behavior is disgusting for most of population, and pedophilia is forbiden in almous in every part of civilised world. Who is talking about thought crime? It is clearly says there is no scientific research this will help them to satisfy their needs, and they won't think on kids any more.
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Holdaaja
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March 04, 2016, 01:28:11 PM |
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No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.
What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it. And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.
If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.
I know this is not fetish! This was question to all, if you seen my quoted sentence This behavior is disgusting for most of population, and pedophilia is forbiden in almous in every part of civilised world. Who is talking about thought crime? It is clearly says there is no scientific research this will help them to satisfy their needs, and they won't think on kids any more. Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.
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arbitrage
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March 04, 2016, 01:28:32 PM |
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Seems like what he's afraid of is the acceptation of the sexual orientation by the public.
Pedofhilian is not sexyal orijetation! "Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PedophiliaAre you supporter of their rights?
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arbitrage
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March 04, 2016, 01:32:57 PM |
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Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.
Should we make it legal in whole world are you referring then? Why are you defending something really bad? You are more concerned for their rights than for child safety?
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Holdaaja
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March 04, 2016, 01:35:07 PM |
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Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.
Should we make it legal in whole world are you referring then? Why are you defending something really bad? You are more concerned for their rights than for child safety? Did you even read what I wrote? We can't make it legal because it already is.
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mainpmf
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March 04, 2016, 01:39:51 PM |
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Seems like what he's afraid of is the acceptation of the sexual orientation by the public.
Pedofhilian is not sexyal orijetation! "Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PedophiliaAre you supporter of their rights? And so what? 30 years ago homosexuality was also considered as a psychiatric disorder. Same for pedophilia. It's just a sexual orientation. One we can't tolerate but it's a sexual orientation whatever you say.
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mainpmf
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March 04, 2016, 01:41:35 PM |
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Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.
Should we make it legal in whole world are you referring then?Why are you defending something really bad? You are more concerned for their rights than for child safety? Are you deaf? It's already legal.
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yugo23
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March 04, 2016, 01:43:30 PM |
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Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.
Should we make it legal in whole world are you referring then? Why are you defending something really bad? You are more concerned for their rights than for child safety? Did you even read what I wrote? We can't make it legal because it already is.You mean that being a pedophile is not illegal because it's the action of raping children which is illegal? Well Oxford dictionary says you're right: pedophile = A person who is sexually attracted to children. But you understood what he meant ^^
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arbitrage
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March 04, 2016, 01:43:36 PM |
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There is something I don't understand...
You keep talking about pedophilia as if it was something perticulary strange and horrible, something that should be destroyed by all means and which is not natural at all.
The fact is... Pedophilia is just a sexual orientation. You're saying "This is something morbid." but it IS a sexual orientation. Like liking men, women, animals, objects, trees...
The only difference (but don't make me say what I didn't say, it's an important difference) is that we can't tolerate such sexual orientation. Because this sexual orientation implies a non mutual consent. Same for animals.
But don' try to find another word to describe it. It's not a fetish or a disgusting thing or anything like this. It's a sexual orientation. One we can't tolerate because it would violate basic human and children rights, but it's still a sexual orientation.
No and as i see you don't know anything about this topic. With this post your just defending rights of pedophiles. I don't need to prove anything more here, you are horribly in wrong
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yugo23
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March 04, 2016, 01:45:07 PM |
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There is something I don't understand...
You keep talking about pedophilia as if it was something perticulary strange and horrible, something that should be destroyed by all means and which is not natural at all.
The fact is... Pedophilia is just a sexual orientation. You're saying "This is something morbid." but it IS a sexual orientation. Like liking men, women, animals, objects, trees...
The only difference (but don't make me say what I didn't say, it's an important difference) is that we can't tolerate such sexual orientation. Because this sexual orientation implies a non mutual consent. Same for animals.
But don' try to find another word to describe it. It's not a fetish or a disgusting thing or anything like this. It's a sexual orientation. One we can't tolerate because it would violate basic human and children rights, but it's still a sexual orientation.
No and as i see you don't know anything about this topic. With this post your just defending rights of pedophiles. I don't need to prove anything more here, you are horribly in wrong I don't see why. He's rather right no? What he says is that pedophilia is something we can't tolerate but which naturaly exists. Seems to me like it's fucking right: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081210082354AAr1mg8
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yugo23
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March 04, 2016, 01:45:43 PM |
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No and as i see you don't know anything about this topic. With this post your just defending rights of pedophiles. I don't need to prove anything more here, you are horribly in wrong
What does that even mean? They got no special rights! They got the same rights as any other citizens!
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Holdaaja
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March 04, 2016, 01:47:30 PM |
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Being pedophile is not illegal in anywhere as far as I know.
Should we make it legal in whole world are you referring then? Why are you defending something really bad? You are more concerned for their rights than for child safety? Did you even read what I wrote? We can't make it legal because it already is.You mean that being a pedophile is not illegal because it's the action of raping children which is illegal? Well Oxford dictionary says you're right: pedophile = A person who is sexually attracted to children. But you understood what he meant ^^ Yes, that is what I mean. And based on what he is writing he doesn't have any idea what terms he is using.
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yugo23
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March 04, 2016, 01:53:55 PM |
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You mean that being a pedophile is not illegal because it's the action of raping children which is illegal?
Well Oxford dictionary says you're right: pedophile = A person who is sexually attracted to children.
But you understood what he meant ^^
Yes, that is what I mean. And based on what he is writing he doesn't have any idea what terms he is using. Well, someone supporting a show as disgusting as the fucked up thing he presented is probably stupid as hell for sure. But anyway, hard to use the adjective "pedophile" for anyone but people commiting pedophiles crimes. Which means it's a rather fair and logical process to assimilate the two.
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March 04, 2016, 01:58:07 PM |
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You mean that being a pedophile is not illegal because it's the action of raping children which is illegal?
Well Oxford dictionary says you're right: pedophile = A person who is sexually attracted to children.
But you understood what he meant ^^
Yes, that is what I mean. And based on what he is writing he doesn't have any idea what terms he is using. Well, someone supporting a show as disgusting as the fucked up thing he presented is probably stupid as hell for sure. But anyway, hard to use the adjective "pedophile" for anyone but people commiting pedophiles crimes. Which means it's a rather fair and logical process to assimilate the two. I think To Catch a Predator was a really good idea. Showing what the depths of the internet can hold on mainstream TV probably got some parents to be more aware of what their kids/teens were doing online, and may have prevented some abuse. While I'm not for invasion of privacy, it could definitely have showed some warning signs to look out for. Besides, honeypotting the pedos was a great idea. They obviously were ready to offend when they went to the house, so they deserved to be taken down by the cops. Only difference is they didn't get a chance to do the deed.
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Holdaaja
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March 04, 2016, 02:09:08 PM |
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No, it is not fetish. Fetish is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.
What does it matter that it is sick? Nobody forces you to do it. And if they do it by hurting anyone they will be punished.
If we start to punish for thoughtcrimes we would all be in jail forever.
Who is talking about thought crime? Ok so now that we got the terminology right lets continue. It is you talking about punishing for thoughtcrime. If he can't stop thinking about children then only solution is chemical castration.
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arbitrage
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March 04, 2016, 02:11:10 PM |
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And so what? 30 years ago homosexuality was also considered as a psychiatric disorder.
Same for pedophilia. It's just a sexual orientation. One we can't tolerate but it's a sexual orientation whatever you say.
And you think this will be same as for LGBT movement. They gonna be accepted and pedophilia will become sexual orientation, not psychiatric disorder?
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yugo23
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March 04, 2016, 02:11:18 PM |
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You mean that being a pedophile is not illegal because it's the action of raping children which is illegal?
Well Oxford dictionary says you're right: pedophile = A person who is sexually attracted to children.
But you understood what he meant ^^
Yes, that is what I mean. And based on what he is writing he doesn't have any idea what terms he is using. Well, someone supporting a show as disgusting as the fucked up thing he presented is probably stupid as hell for sure. But anyway, hard to use the adjective "pedophile" for anyone but people commiting pedophiles crimes. Which means it's a rather fair and logical process to assimilate the two. I think To Catch a Predator was a really good idea. Showing what the depths of the internet can hold on mainstream TV probably got some parents to be more aware of what their kids/teens were doing online, and may have prevented some abuse. While I'm not for invasion of privacy, it could definitely have showed some warning signs to look out for. Besides, honeypotting the pedos was a great idea. They obviously were ready to offend when they went to the house, so they deserved to be taken down by the cops. Only difference is they didn't get a chance to do the deed. A private show about pedophilia... Yeah excellent idea... And when they're out of pedophiles? What do you think they do? Maybe just harass enough people until they get enough compromising video to make a good show? Brillant idea indeed! And it's not at all horrible to watch that and to actually entertain people with it! Next step: the Games of Death. Rome colliseum but with death sentenced people.
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