Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On

[valta4065]

Nobody said that here. But I'm not really surprised by your attitude and your "arguments" Wilikon. They're as usual: poor and shady.

You can twist words and make false quotes as long as you want. What we said is the truth: you can't put someone in jail for an uncomited crime! Never. Otherwise it's no longer justice, it's simple dictatorship.

OK
But what then you are proposing to be done?
Punish after crime?
So we just need to awaits he rapes children and if police caught him after 5th times
he will prosecuted and marked as sexual offender..
3 years in jail and he's on the road again..

Well first punishing after crime is the only way to go. How would you find criminals if they don't have comited the crime yet?

Second stop spreading bullshit, 3 years for pedophilia? Kidding me? it's 15 years minima, sometimes more.

Third: I'm not proposing anything, you're the one asking for new things to be done not me.

[arbitrage]

Well first punishing after crime is the only way to go. How would you find criminals if they don't have comited the crime yet?

Second stop spreading bullshit, 3 years for pedophilia? Kidding me? it's 15 years minima, sometimes more.

Third: I'm not proposing anything, you're the one asking for new things to be done not me.

1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm



2. It depends on the severity of the case, many of which have appeared in "TV Show"
 mentioned earlier didnt get 15 years. Yes they did not abuse child but their intent was that! So please stop be smart.
He is still predator and he will strike again

"Morrison has been sentenced to nine months in jail under a plea agreement, becoming our first conviction from Dateline"http://www.perverted-justice.com/?con=donni1957_male

3. Yes i'm against dolls.. And any other movement about their rights!
For me this is same as letting them freely watch CP.

And how your post can contribute this topic?

[valta4065]

1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm

Irrelevant. No link with our subject. It's like saying "I want people to love each other". It's beautiful but irrelevant.

2. It depends on the severity of the case, many of which have appeared in "TV Show"
 mentioned earlier didnt get 15 years. Yes they did not abuse child but their intent was that! So please stop be smart.
He is still predator and he will strike again

So you want anyone who ever stepped on the line ever to be put in jail until he dies?
Again, what will you do once there is more people in jail than out...

3. Yes i'm against dolls.. And any other movement about their rights!
For me this is same as letting them freely watch CP.

Not the same simply because CP implies that somewhere a child has been abused. So the CP is created. Hence it can't be tolerated. Whereas the dolls harm absolutely no one.

And how your post can contribute this topic?

By explaining why what you're asking is nothing but true and complete dictatorship. You might think it's just "to protect children" but you violent every human rights by asking for people to be put in jails for having weird dreams.

[arbitrage]

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

[yugo23]

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

[arbitrage]

"
1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm
"

Irrelevant. No link with our subject. It's like saying "I want people to love each other". It's beautiful but irrelevant.

This is not relevant because showing how many abusing of children are coming from
their " safe places" from their parents and their cousins..
Not only from internet and from strangers..

[arbitrage]

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

I just posted earlier one YouTube link about Hollywood. You can watch it and you will see there is some certain group of people that have enormous money and power so they can do everything they wants.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1295601.msg14122515#msg14122515

[yugo23]

"
1. Children must have more attentions, and whole society must be included.
Do you know how many kids are neglected by their parents?
http://www.parentsprotect.co.uk/quick_facts.htm
"

Irrelevant. No link with our subject. It's like saying "I want people to love each other". It's beautiful but irrelevant.

This is not relevant because showing how many abusing of children are coming from
their " safe places" from their parents and their cousins..
Not only from internet and from strangers..

Yeah great and? What's your point?

[Wilikon]

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

And some still believe the movement for pedophiles "RIGHTS" is not marching...?


The title of this thread has been proven accurate further.

[mainpmf]

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

And some still believe the movement for pedophiles "RIGHTS" is not marching...?


The title of this thread has been proven accurate further.

It's like the 5th time you say that, is that some kind of repetitive joke?

Yugo, Valta, Holdaaja... They just say you can't jail someone for their thoughts?

What's bad about this? You think we should be judged on what we think too? Not only on what we do?

[criptix]

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

And some still believe the movement for pedophiles "RIGHTS" is not marching...?


The title of this thread has been proven accurate further.

It's like the 5th time you say that, is that some kind of repetitive joke?

Yugo, Valta, Holdaaja... They just say you can't jail someone for their thoughts?

What's bad about this? You think we should be judged on what we think too? Not only on what we do?

There is free speech but no free thoughts - ups what 

[Wilikon]

No i didn't said we must catch people on the street and jail them.
This is something you pushing through this conversation.. I'm telling there's strong Lobby behind all this movement for "their rights". So we must distinguish between human rights and supporting of perversions.

You're all saying that but who is lobbying?
Most people, like us, just want it to be recognized that having weird dreams doesn't make you a monster!

Acts can be judged only. Not the thoughts.

And some still believe the movement for pedophiles "RIGHTS" is not marching...?


The title of this thread has been proven accurate further.

It's like the 5th time you say that, is that some kind of repetitive joke?

Yugo, Valta, Holdaaja... They just say you can't jail someone for their thoughts?

What's bad about this? You think we should be judged on what we think too? Not only on what we do?

There is free speech but no free thoughts - ups what 

Yes. Pedophiles are free, until they are caught after their crimes, leaving young victims behind. I guess they have dreams too, just like you, but not like those children.

You are right: this situation is pretty funny. <yellow smiley face>

[mainpmf]

Yes. Pedophiles are free, until they are caught after their crimes, leaving young victims behind. I guess they have dreams too, just like you, but not like those children.

You are right: this situation is pretty funny. <yellow smiley face>

So for you we should jail anyone suspected of maybe having thought about a child in a sexual way? And how do you prove he did such thing?

[Wilikon]

Yes. Pedophiles are free, until they are caught after their crimes, leaving young victims behind. I guess they have dreams too, just like you, but not like those children.

You are right: this situation is pretty funny. <yellow smiley face>

So for you we should jail anyone suspected of maybe having thought about a child in a sexual way? And how do you prove he did such thing?

I believe people like you know very well the title of this thread is a fact, and people like you believe it was wrong for the gay lobby to reject nambla under their umbrella.

[mainpmf]

Yes. Pedophiles are free, until they are caught after their crimes, leaving young victims behind. I guess they have dreams too, just like you, but not like those children.

You are right: this situation is pretty funny. <yellow smiley face>

So for you we should jail anyone suspected of maybe having thought about a child in a sexual way? And how do you prove he did such thing?

I believe people like you know very well the title of this thread is a fact, and people like you believe it was wrong for the gay lobby to reject nambla under their umbrella.

No because you talk about a movement like there is something official like an association of pedophiles and it's not the case.

And I don't believe pedophiles should be represented by any mean or protected by a lobby.

Now you want to answer to my question or keeping saying what I believe?

[Wilikon]

Yes. Pedophiles are free, until they are caught after their crimes, leaving young victims behind. I guess they have dreams too, just like you, but not like those children.

You are right: this situation is pretty funny. <yellow smiley face>

So for you we should jail anyone suspected of maybe having thought about a child in a sexual way? And how do you prove he did such thing?

I believe people like you know very well the title of this thread is a fact, and people like you believe it was wrong for the gay lobby to reject nambla under their umbrella.

No because you talk about a movement like there is something official like an association of pedophiles and it's not the case.

And I don't believe pedophiles should be represented by any mean or protected by a lobby.

Now you want to answer to my question or keeping saying what I believe?

North American Man/Boy Love Association

The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a pedophile and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States. It works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors[2][3] and campaigns for the release of men who have been jailed for sexual contacts with minors that did not involve coercion.[2][4] The group no longer holds regular national meetings, and as of the late 1990s—to avoid local police infiltration—the organization discouraged the formation of local chapters.[4][5] Around 1995, an undercover detective discovered there were 1,100 people on the organization's rolls.[4] In 1997, NAMBLA was the largest group in IPCE, an international pro-pedophile activist organization.[6] As of 2005, a newspaper report stated that NAMBLA was based in New York and San Francisco.[4]
Goals and positions

NAMBLA's website states that it is a political, civil rights, and educational organization whose goal is to end "the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships".[7] According to NAMBLA, some of the organization's positions are:

    Supporting and promoting man/boy relationships: the organization says that when consensual, these relationships are not harmful or amount to child sexual abuse. They cite a controversial paper by Rind et al.;[8]
    Age of consent reform: what NAMBLA describes as "empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual";[7]
    Opposition to corporal punishment, kidnapping and rape.[9]

In achieving these goals, NAMBLA aims to co-operate with the mainstream LGBT community and women's liberation movements.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association


I find google search to be easy. Faster than begging.

[craked5]

North American Man/Boy Love Association

The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a pedophile and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States. It works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors[2][3] and campaigns for the release of men who have been jailed for sexual contacts with minors that did not involve coercion.[2][4] The group no longer holds regular national meetings, and as of the late 1990s—to avoid local police infiltration—the organization discouraged the formation of local chapters.[4][5] Around 1995, an undercover detective discovered there were 1,100 people on the organization's rolls.[4] In 1997, NAMBLA was the largest group in IPCE, an international pro-pedophile activist organization.[6] As of 2005, a newspaper report stated that NAMBLA was based in New York and San Francisco.[4]
Goals and positions

NAMBLA's website states that it is a political, civil rights, and educational organization whose goal is to end "the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships".[7] According to NAMBLA, some of the organization's positions are:

    Supporting and promoting man/boy relationships: the organization says that when consensual, these relationships are not harmful or amount to child sexual abuse. They cite a controversial paper by Rind et al.;[8]
    Age of consent reform: what NAMBLA describes as "empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual";[7]
    Opposition to corporal punishment, kidnapping and rape.[9]

In achieving these goals, NAMBLA aims to co-operate with the mainstream LGBT community and women's liberation movements.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association


I find google search to be easy. Faster than begging.

Wait wait wait what?

You mean there is an official association of pedophiles???

whaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaat? Oo

I think most of us simply didn't understand that... Such a thing seems totally impossible for Europeans, a bit like human sacrifices.

Dang, how can something like this exist?

It changes everything, I understand why you where so shocked about our lack of reaction xD

Damn... Well I keep my word about the fact that you shouldn't go to jail for your thoughts... But creating something like this?

[craked5]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

I'm sorry I'm still shocked xD

Dang you see maybe freedom of speech is a bit too sacred in America xD

How can something like this be LEGAL?

I don't understand. And nobody is trying to kill them? I mean I support the objectivity of justice, but I'd fully understand if some people (especially parents of molested children) would try to kill them all!

[Wilikon]

North American Man/Boy Love Association

The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a pedophile and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States. It works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors[2][3] and campaigns for the release of men who have been jailed for sexual contacts with minors that did not involve coercion.[2][4] The group no longer holds regular national meetings, and as of the late 1990s—to avoid local police infiltration—the organization discouraged the formation of local chapters.[4][5] Around 1995, an undercover detective discovered there were 1,100 people on the organization's rolls.[4] In 1997, NAMBLA was the largest group in IPCE, an international pro-pedophile activist organization.[6] As of 2005, a newspaper report stated that NAMBLA was based in New York and San Francisco.[4]
Goals and positions

NAMBLA's website states that it is a political, civil rights, and educational organization whose goal is to end "the extreme oppression of men and boys in mutually consensual relationships".[7] According to NAMBLA, some of the organization's positions are:

    Supporting and promoting man/boy relationships: the organization says that when consensual, these relationships are not harmful or amount to child sexual abuse. They cite a controversial paper by Rind et al.;[8]
    Age of consent reform: what NAMBLA describes as "empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual";[7]
    Opposition to corporal punishment, kidnapping and rape.[9]

In achieving these goals, NAMBLA aims to co-operate with the mainstream LGBT community and women's liberation movements.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association


I find google search to be easy. Faster than begging.

Wait wait wait what?

You mean there is an official association of pedophiles???

whaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaat? Oo

I think most of us simply didn't understand that... Such a thing seems totally impossible for Europeans, a bit like human sacrifices.

Dang, how can something like this exist?

It changes everything, I understand why you where so shocked about our lack of reaction xD

Damn... Well I keep my word about the fact that you shouldn't go to jail for your thoughts... But creating something like this?

This is a sad thread, a sad subject. This group was created to influence all the governments in the world, including yours, it does not matter were you live. They know they have to be patient so they do it slowly, bit by bit. The gay lobby is their trojan horse.

You should investigate your own culture and see if any of those people are not already in the system.

I like a good fight with you but, in this case, children safety are beyond us both.

[craked5]

Wait wait wait what?

You mean there is an official association of pedophiles???

whaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaat? Oo

I think most of us simply didn't understand that... Such a thing seems totally impossible for Europeans, a bit like human sacrifices.

Dang, how can something like this exist?

It changes everything, I understand why you where so shocked about our lack of reaction xD

Damn... Well I keep my word about the fact that you shouldn't go to jail for your thoughts... But creating something like this?

This is a sad thread, a sad subject. This group was created to influence all the governments in the world, including yours, it does not matter were you live. They know they have to be patient so they do it slowly, bit by bit. The gay lobby is their trojan horse.

You should investigate your own culture and see if any of those people are not already in the system.

I like a good fight with you but, in this case, children safety are beyond us both.

Well they can't be officially in Europe at least, as any association supporting criminal activities is illegal.

For example there is no "nazi association" in Europe.

But that's really disturbing. I mean that Justice considers pedophiles as normal human being is normal, it's sane, it's important. But that they're able to build an official association? that's much more disturbing!