TRUST SYSTEM ABUSE?

[AliTraders]

Please answer honestly and use your commonsense.
No negative words please.

Give respect, take respect.

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[armour]

You don't need proof for your situation.
- Asking for 50 BTC
- Giving a promise and that's it, nothing in case your INVESTMENT crashes or you run.

Get off the internet you scumbag

[brituspol]

No its not /thread

[asa.convex]

Please answer honestly and use your commonsense.

If you have enough evidence to prove that the guy is attempting to scam, then yes.

But proof is always needed.

[Parazyd]

I don't think it's okay, but if a user is a newbie and requests lending of a few BTC, one should be very careful and the trust system helps there.

The people on this forum think of the trust system as some kind of reputation that goes on around other forums I don't even want to type the name of.
There's nothing wrong with flagging newbies with negative trust. If you can prove that you are not a scammer, the negative trust can easily be removed.

[teddy5145]

No, there is no trust abuse here, It's called COMMON SENSE
You asked for a huge loan without any details or proof that you will use the coins on the right way, you need to know that Bitcoins is irreversible so once that people funded your loan he can't take that coins back in case you scams (Which i think you will do anyway)
So no, keep dreaming and maybe you will get your loan but in the meantime you can keep begging for loan but we are not going to fall for it

[AliTraders]

No, there is no trust abuse here, It's called COMMON SENSE
You asked for a huge loan without any details or proof that you will use the coins on the right way, you need to know that Bitcoins is irreversible so once that people funded your loan he can't take that coins back in case you scams (Which i think you will do anyway)
So no, keep dreaming and maybe you will get your loan but in the meantime you can keep begging for loan but we are not going to fall for it

Sir, i am not only talking about myself. There are some like me who are honest but when those who call us scammers who have not even had a deal with us we feel bad.
"(Which i think you will do anyway)" You are thinking absolutely wrong.
I am not begging here for loan i am begging for some understanding.
And yes, you don't even need to fall for it.
And sir, this poll was not created because it happened to me... it was created because people are not using the trust system as it should be.

[teddy5145]

No, there is no trust abuse here, It's called COMMON SENSE
You asked for a huge loan without any details or proof that you will use the coins on the right way, you need to know that Bitcoins is irreversible so once that people funded your loan he can't take that coins back in case you scams (Which i think you will do anyway)
So no, keep dreaming and maybe you will get your loan but in the meantime you can keep begging for loan but we are not going to fall for it

Sir, i am not only talking about myself. There are some like me who are honest but when those who call us scammers who have not even had a deal with us we feel bad.
"(Which i think you will do anyway)" You are thinking absolutely wrong.
I am not begging here for loan i am begging for some understanding.
And yes, you don't even need to fall for it.
And sir, this poll was not created because it happened to me... it was created because people are not using the trust system as it should be.

You don't need to make a deal with someone to call the scammers, some people can smell scams few miles away even before doing any kind of trades you know
Your loan topic is like Nigerian scams that happened in the early 2000's
"Im Nigerian prince, i will give you $1000 if you send me $500 first"
"Hi i need 50 BTC for "Investment" and i will give you 2 BTC Daily"
Basically the same, the only difference i see is that many people fell for Nigerian scams while nobody will fall for yours

it was created because people are not using the trust system as it should be.

So how the trust system should be used ?

[jacktheking]

You are not new to the forums, are you? I have a feeling that you are just trolling. No one that have normal senses would ask for 22 000 USD online and promise a return of 800 USD every day. If you are not crazy and really have a good business plan, I would suggest you to go with Bank Loan. Bitcoin is not the type of currency you would want to play around with big business as it is very unstable.

[Graphics]

We all know that you're a scammer. Even if you aren't, a newbie with 0 trust trying to ask for a 50 BTC loan without any collateral whatsoever is going to get a negative trust by default from one of the trusted members to prevent scamming.

You'll get the negative trust removed after a month or so... If you don't attempt to scam anyone in that period of time.

[DaddyMonsi]

Please answer honestly and use your commonsense.
No negative words please.

Give respect, take respect.

If this is about the comments on you loan request, then trust was not abused there.
Instead of asking people to use commonsense, you should apply that to your self, after so many pages and yet no one is interested in funding your loan, that should give you a clear message that something is wrong with your request, not something is wrong with the people posting from your loan request.

[zivone]

Please answer honestly and use your commonsense.
No negative words please.

Give respect, take respect.

Well honestly, that's it they used their commonsense as you said. Asking 50BTC without any collateral or any clear details, those with commonsense just don't trust something like that and giving you negative trust to warn others. This is the internet, expect even more than just a negative word.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I invite all of you folks to take a look at my feedback and tell me if that's abuse or not.  I've done a grand total of one (1) deal here on bitcointalk, selling some Coke codes and the deal went fine.  Those other fuckers who left me red trust are just angry assholes who didn't like comments I made.  So yeah, trust abuse is rampant here.  Look at Vod's feedback--tons of retaliatory feedback that's complete horse shit.

[DebitMe]

All of the red trust you received is absolutely warranted and deserved.  If you really wanted to grow the community and get involved, you would have done so slowly, learning how things work the whole way over years of thoughtful conversation and good deals.  Instead, you decide to blatantly ask for an absurd amount of bitcoin, that frankly, maybe 5 accounts on these forums would have any chance of actually getting filed without collateral.  I have been around here for years and have done hundreds of trades and wouldn't even feel like I have a snowballs chance in hell of receiving a 50 btc loan without collateral, and yet, you continue to think that if you post enough and continue to complain, all of a sudden someone will warm up to the idea of handing over 20 grand to an anonymous person.

So, take what you have learned and go slowly.  Start building trust by doing trades and giving good advice.  Eventually, people will start trusting you, but until then, every bit of red trust you receive in warranted, and you will probably start getting some for complaining (which is absolutely what trust is about, and would be well within the trust bounds).

[AliTraders]

No, there is no trust abuse here, It's called COMMON SENSE
You asked for a huge loan without any details or proof that you will use the coins on the right way, you need to know that Bitcoins is irreversible so once that people funded your loan he can't take that coins back in case you scams (Which i think you will do anyway)
So no, keep dreaming and maybe you will get your loan but in the meantime you can keep begging for loan but we are not going to fall for it

Sir, i am not only talking about myself. There are some like me who are honest but when those who call us scammers who have not even had a deal with us we feel bad.
"(Which i think you will do anyway)" You are thinking absolutely wrong.
I am not begging here for loan i am begging for some understanding.
And yes, you don't even need to fall for it.
And sir, this poll was not created because it happened to me... it was created because people are not using the trust system as it should be.

You don't need to make a deal with someone to call the scammers, some people can smell scams few miles away even before doing any kind of trades you know
Your loan topic is like Nigerian scams that happened in the early 2000's
"Im Nigerian prince, i will give you $1000 if you send me $500 first"
"Hi i need 50 BTC for "Investment" and i will give you 2 BTC Daily"
Basically the same, the only difference i see is that many people fell for Nigerian scams while nobody will fall for yours

it was created because people are not using the trust system as it should be.

So how the trust system should be used ?

You don't need to make a deal with someone to call the scammers

You are wrong here, sir.

So how the trust system should be used ?

When you have dealt with someone and based on your experience with him/her you should give feedback.
Not when you haven't even heard what is being said and just go to feedback and rate someone that he is scammer.

[AliTraders]

You are not new to the forums, are you? I have a feeling that you are just trolling. No one that have normal senses would ask for 22 000 USD online and promise a return of 800 USD every day. If you are not crazy and really have a good business plan, I would suggest you to go with Bank Loan. Bitcoin is not the type of currency you would want to play around with big business as it is very unstable.

I am new and no i am not here to troll or scam anyone. And i think you have not read my thread. Anyway this poll is neutral and is for everyone not only because of what happened to me.

[AliTraders]

We all know that you're a scammer. Even if you aren't, a newbie with 0 trust trying to ask for a 50 BTC loan without any collateral whatsoever is going to get a negative trust by default from one of the trusted members to prevent scamming.

You'll get the negative trust removed after a month or so... If you don't attempt to scam anyone in that period of time.

We all know that you're a scammer.

Give people here proof that i am a scammer.

Even if you aren't, a newbie with 0 trust trying to ask for a 50 BTC loan without any collateral whatsoever is going to get a negative trust by default from one of the trusted members to prevent scamming.

You are right but the point was that trust system is being abused.

[Maskedman]

You're the abuser for the trust system. Look at how many negative trusts you've got. 

[AliTraders]

Please answer honestly and use your commonsense.
No negative words please.

Give respect, take respect.

If this is about the comments on you loan request, then trust was not abused there.
Instead of asking people to use commonsense, you should apply that to your self, after so many pages and yet no one is interested in funding your loan, that should give you a clear message that something is wrong with your request, not something is wrong with the people posting from your loan request.

No, it is not about me it's about all others who have been given negative trust without any reason.
Something is wrong with people calling someone scammer without having proof of it.

[AliTraders]

Please answer honestly and use your commonsense.
No negative words please.

Give respect, take respect.

Well honestly, that's it they used their commonsense as you said. Asking 50BTC without any collateral or any clear details, those with commonsense just don't trust something like that and giving you negative trust to warn others. This is the internet, expect even more than just a negative word.

Sir, this poll is not for me only. Using commonsense means i wanted everyone to vote without taking my case in it.