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December 09, 2012, 09:08:16 PM |
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Do you want me to paste the same quote from the contract for the third time?
No, I think all is said and done now.
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December 09, 2012, 09:53:19 PM |
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Good job paying $2500 for a bfl single....
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December 09, 2012, 09:56:24 PM |
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Last trade over past 15 days is 0 so a buyback of any kind is reasonable if you look at it that way.
The higher price in the last 15 days is the last price of the shares. The last price of the share was not 0. Could you explain exactly what you bought with 15.3000032 BTC?
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December 09, 2012, 10:05:42 PM |
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Last trade over past 15 days is 0 so a buyback of any kind is reasonable if you look at it that way.
The higher price in the last 15 days is the last price of the shares. The last price of the share was not 0. Could you explain exactly what you bought with 15.3000032 BTC? Sure, I bought out 139 shares @ 0.11 btc, if your address is in that tx then your shares have been bought back. The outstanding 226 shares have not been claimed or they have recieved a double payment.
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December 09, 2012, 10:33:15 PM |
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Sure, I bought out 139 shares @ 0.11 btc, if your address is in that tx then your shares have been bought back.
The outstanding 226 shares have not been claimed or they have recieved a double payment.
This is still confusing... You said that '573 shares were owned by PGM'. Among this shares, '56 shares are owned by' you. This leave 517 shares which are not owned by you. Then you 'bought back 145'. This leave 372 shares which are not owned by you. You claimed that '226 shares have not been claimed' among the '371 outstanding shares'. This leave 145 shares which have been claimed. What are this '139 shares @ 0.11' BTC you bought?
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December 09, 2012, 10:37:28 PM |
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Sure, I bought out 139 shares @ 0.11 btc, if your address is in that tx then your shares have been bought back.
The outstanding 226 shares have not been claimed or they have recieved a double payment.
This is still confusing... You said that '573 shares were owned by PGM'. Among this shares, '56 shares are owned by' you. This leave 517 shares which are not owned by you. Then you 'bought back 145'. This leave 372 shares which are not owned by you. You claimed that '226 shares have not been claimed' among the '371 outstanding shares'. This leave 145 shares which have been claimed. What are this '139 shares @ 0.11' BTC you bought? You make it confusing, the 573 shares were the share I bought when I tookover PGM, the 56 shares are shares that I held in another account in GLBSE (private). I bought back 139 shares in that tx, 6 shares in another tx for FDBF, that leaves 226 shares.
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December 09, 2012, 10:40:50 PM |
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Sure, I bought out 139 shares @ 0.11 btc, if your address is in that tx then your shares have been bought back.
The outstanding 226 shares have not been claimed or they have recieved a double payment.
This is still confusing... You said that '573 shares were owned by PGM'. Among this shares, '56 shares are owned by' you. This leave 517 shares which are not owned by you. Then you 'bought back 145'. This leave 372 shares which are not owned by you. You claimed that '226 shares have not been claimed' among the '371 outstanding shares'. This leave 145 shares which have been claimed. What are this '139 shares @ 0.11' BTC you bought? You make it confusing, the 573 shares were the share I bought when I tookover PGM, the 56 shares are shares that I held in another account in GLBSE (private). I bought back 139 shares in that tx, 6 shares in another tx for FDBF, that leaves 226 shares. How exactly did you buy the shares since glbse wasnt operating ?
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December 09, 2012, 10:42:08 PM |
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You make it confusing,
the 573 shares were the share I bought when I tookover PGM, the 56 shares are shares that I held in another account in GLBSE (private). I bought back 139 shares in that tx, 6 shares in another tx for FDBF, that leaves 226 shares.
I am sorry, the lack of better details were really confusing. All right. You just have to prove that you bought the 573 shares when you took over the PGM.
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December 09, 2012, 10:43:48 PM |
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You make it confusing,
the 573 shares were the share I bought when I tookover PGM, the 56 shares are shares that I held in another account in GLBSE (private). I bought back 139 shares in that tx, 6 shares in another tx for FDBF, that leaves 226 shares.
I am sorry, the lack of better details were really confusing. All right. You just have to prove that you bought the 573 shares when you took over the PGM. Proof is in YML file provided by GLBSE (shareholders list). I can make it public, but then I would expose everyone`s email addresses.
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December 09, 2012, 11:11:33 PM |
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Proof is in YML file provided by GLBSE (shareholders list).
I can make it public, but then I would expose everyone`s email addresses.
You bought this shares in the GLBSE platform? If so, you can produce a redacted list.
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December 11, 2012, 09:32:39 AM |
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It is taking quite some time to fabricate so called proof I see.
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December 11, 2012, 03:21:48 PM |
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It is taking quite some time to fabricate so called proof I see.
I am not "fabricating" so callad proof, I can make the YML file (shareholders list) provided by GLBSE public but then I would expose everyone`s email address and I think you don`t want your email-box spammed or worse.
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December 11, 2012, 03:46:11 PM |
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Let me get this straight. At first you said "56 shares are owned by me ", but when it became obvious that you kept half of the investment to yourself while you should have given it back to the shareholders you picked exactly that moment to surprise us saying that actually YOU are the major shareholder, DESPITE the glbse was at the time DOWN, and despite data pulled from glbse showing that in fact these 573 shares were never sold!
What I don't understand is why this pathetic thief hasn't yet received the scammer tag? Looks like he is not going to admit his "calculus error".
It is just sad how desperatly you are trying to defened yourself, avoiding questions in this thread, rushing into dead ends ("the highest price in 15 days is 0 so you are lucky" shit).. Be a man and just admit you made a mistake, pay back what is NOT yours!
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December 11, 2012, 04:10:08 PM |
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From the start the BFL Single (PGM was only 1 BFL Single) was divided in 1000 parts (shares) Issuer owns all shares till they are sold (since he owns the single from start), when you bought the shares you only bought the right of 1/1000th BFL Single per share. So whats your whole point?
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December 11, 2012, 04:30:53 PM |
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I just want you to remember how pathetic you are when you buy your christmas tree with the money you stole. Besides that I also want somebody who is in charge here (Theymos?) to decide wether word "shareholders" may or may not include the issuer if it is as laconic as in this case (original contract https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97263.0). I don't think Paladon had in mind what the jackass here is pulling. I think he is using the situation, abusing the contract.
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December 11, 2012, 04:36:24 PM |
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Since I know I did nothing wrong and broke no contract, I will ask it myself:
@ theymos: could you end this "shit stirring"? Do I deserve a Scammer Tag?
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Jouke
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December 11, 2012, 04:59:26 PM |
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What does it matter if he or paladons owns those shares?
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December 11, 2012, 05:00:08 PM |
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What do you mean?
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Jouke
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December 11, 2012, 05:22:15 PM |
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What do you mean?
It wouldn't give you more per share does it?
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December 11, 2012, 06:38:31 PM |
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- Investors overpaid for a BFL single at IPO
- Investors bought shares of an asset valued in USD (BFL Single) and BTC/USD went up
No scam occurred here, unless there is some proof of wrongdoing with regards to the OP's purchases of his own shares. From the contract: The issuer can buy back the share at any time at a price equal to 1.05 times the highest price the asset was traded on GLBSE over the prior 15 days You guys are lucky it wasn't bought back for zero, following the strict wording of the contract which had no provision for a GLBSE shutdown. I think the OP's buyback price is quite reasonable.
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