bASIC graphic renders and diagram

[Bogart]

Thought I'd repost these here:






Source: https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=355.0

[crazyates]

Just a few random thoughts when I saw these:

1st: These are their "renderings"?! I'm not good with that sort of stuff, but my brother could whip those up in an hour. They show virtually no details besides having 16 chips, 4 fans, and a DC barrel jack (I thought they were using molex?). People complained about the BFL renderings not being enough proof, but those at least looked like they were based off an actual schematic or design. I'm assuming this is because the board isn't finished?

2nd: 16 chips compared to BFLs 8. That would put them at 4.5GH/s, compared to BFL's 7.5GH/s. I wonder if more chips = lower voltage, which allows them to lower the power usage (per chip), and maybe keep them under 100W?

[creativex]

Yeah they could be prettier, but it's nice to see movement. As to the molex issue, I believe bASIC is moving toward a PCIe connector as a single molex would be pretty close to maxed current wise. This is a good choice IMO and the barrel connector is another option for powering the unit.

The design is very compact and efficient IMO, though it could obviously change significantly prior to shipping.

[BitSyncom]

Why does it say the chips will be on time? wasn't the word before that bASIC already had the chips? If this wasn't then case, then I apologize for the statements made against them on the assumption they mentioned they had chips but no PCB.

[creativex]

Think you can kiss your Christmas fruitcake buh bye buddy...no sense sucking up now.

The chip possession comments from BTCFPGA are still rather ambiguous. I don't know if they had some ES chips on hand and have just been waiting for the main shipment or what. They seem rather confident that they'll have chips when they need them and that they'll work. 

[Enigma81]

If true to render, this would be the first ASIC (of any kind, bitcoin related or otherwise) I've ever seen that had JTAG.

Odd, to say the least...

Enigma

[RHA]

If true to render, this would be the first ASIC (of any kind, bitcoin related or otherwise) I've ever seen that had JTAG.

One learns throughout life. Why ASICs couldn't be tested by JTAG connector? Or have internal temperature read out at prototype boards?

[Frizz23]

Thought I'd repost these here:
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Not impressive at all 

It seems Avalon is the only trustworthy company.

I'd love to see an update like this (Avalon) from BFL or Tom: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120184.msg1381739#msg1381739

[creativex]

meh.

Rather see a shipping notification.

[PuertoLibre]

Thought I'd repost these here:






Source: https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=355.0

I actually see it as very good news. I just wonder if these are complete renders. (As in detailed)

The good news I can gather from their renders is that the solution Tom has gone with is extremely simple scalability. His board is the same in every direction. As in a uniform design. So if he wanted to, he could probably just make a bigger board and scale his hashing power in clusters.

If he would put in some controlling logic like BFL did with their boards (for the tethered/interconnected boards of the mini rig), he would be able to scale his hashing units to an incredible degree.

[bcpokey]

Thought I'd repost these here:


Source: https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=355.0

I actually see it as very good news. I just wonder if these are complete renders. (As in detailed)

The good news I can gather from their renders is that the solution Tom has gone with is extremely simple scalability. His board is the same in every direction. As in a uniform design. So if he wanted to, he could probably just make a bigger board and scale his hashing power in clusters.

If he would put in some controlling logic like BFL did with their boards (for the tethered/interconnected boards of the mini rig), he would be able to scale his hashing units to an incredible degree.

please keep in mind at the time these renders were done they were incomplete.

source: first post of the linked thread.

[monstrs]

Atleast some movement, drawings is good Lets see what BFL will draw next

[greyhawk]

I love how the fans apparently push down the air onto the heat sinks, creating a nicely effective pocket of heat as soon as that thing sits in an enclosure. Wouldn't want those poor Asics to be cold now.

[PuertoLibre]

Atleast some movement, drawings is good Lets see what BFL will draw next

They will draw criticism from their most hardened supporters.

Take a look:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-4.html

Crazy (as in sensible) comments going on over there.

[greyhawk]

Atleast some movement, drawings is good Lets see what BFL will draw next

They will draw criticism from their most hardened supporters.

Take a look:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-4.html

Crazy (as in sensible) comments going on over there.

Which comment is the sensible one? Is it the one who says the delay is a great chance to order more ASICs with granny's christmas money? Or is it the one where they guy thinks there's a conspiracy and the fab is holding back ASICs to mine with them themselves?

[PuertoLibre]

Atleast some movement, drawings is good Lets see what BFL will draw next

They will draw criticism from their most hardened supporters.

Take a look:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-4.html

Crazy (as in sensible) comments going on over there.

Which comment is the sensible one? Is it the one who says the delay is a great chance to order more ASICs with granny's christmas money? Or is it the one where they guy thinks there's a conspiracy and the fab is holding back ASICs to mine with them themselves?

Some dealt with the news better than others?

I think some just lost their mind. Perhaps they have been driven insane by the waiting. I believe there is a thread on their forums for exactly that....I forget the link at this time.

[PuertoLibre]

[Speculation, opinionated commentary below]

To alliterative their potential mental damage. I believe the rep decided to pull some random object from the shelf and asked everyone to guess what it belongs to.

Some played along for a page or two trying to guess what the plastic looking object looked like to them. Sort of like an inkblot test but with their minds and emotions. But then the apparent madness set in as their human reasoning started to react (to the delay of course).

You have to wonder how the rep treats his customers....it's almost like they are a hampster or lab rat when he did that. I thought they would have balked at it at first, but then they played along for about a page.

Strange isn't it?

[lenny_]

Here's design of BTCFPGA custom-ASIC:


Pretty cool, isn't?!  

[michaelmclees]

Unless everything is on the chips, is this design not missing some stuff?

[creativex]

please keep in mind at the time these renders were done they were incomplete.