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December 30, 2025, 03:33:36 PM
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  I don't want to engage in polemics with some forum members who believe that the only way to solve problems is brute force. Given the current state of computing power, this approach would take millennia or entail financial costs exceeding the prize. Essentially, they are suggesting to wait for technological progress or embark on a thousand-year journey. Any other approaches seem to offend them (apparently, they have already started down this path) and they react hysterically to such a position. Moreover, they promote this vision aggressively and tactlessly, insulting other opinions and approaches, much like an aggressive LGBT community. I think even monkey could solve it with a powerful GPU and the right program.
  Continuing to develop alternative approaches to problem-solving, I'm sharing one line of thought on how the task could be solved. Below is a list of private keys with their prime multipliers.
 1 -> 1
3 -> 3
7 -> 7
8 -> 2, 2, 2
21 -> 3, 7
49 -> 7, 7
76 -> 2, 2, 19
224 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 7
467 -> 467
514 -> 2, 257
1155 -> 3, 5, 7, 11
2683 -> 2683
5216 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 163
10544 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 659
26867 -> 67, 401
51510 -> 2, 3, 5, 17, 101
95823 -> 3, 3, 3, 3, 7, 13, 13
198669 -> 3, 47, 1409
357535 -> 5, 23, 3109
863317 -> 7, 13, 53, 179
1811764 -> 2, 2, 19, 31, 769
3007503 -> 3, 3, 3, 23, 29, 167
5598802 -> 2, 11, 254491
14428676 -> 2, 2, 19, 189851
33185509 -> 7, 4740787
54538862 -> 2, 7, 7, 556519
111949941 -> 3, 43, 867829
227634408 -> 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 1053863
400708894 -> 2, 83, 2413909
1033162084 -> 2, 2, 47, 5495543
2102388551 -> 19, 19, 43, 167, 811
3093472814 -> 2, 23, 3001, 22409
7137437912 -> 2, 2, 2, 11, 751, 107999
14133072157 -> 19, 41, 131, 138493
20112871792 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 13, 96696499
42387769980 -> 2, 2, 3, 3, 5, 235487611
100251560595 -> 3, 5, 6683437373
146971536592 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 60037, 153001
323724968937 -> 3, 3, 138319, 260047
1003651412950 -> 2, 5, 5, 20073028259
1458252205147 -> 23, 63402269789
2895374552463 -> 3, 3, 59, 5452682773
7409811047825 -> 5, 5, 587, 2903, 173933
15404761757071 -> 2783789, 5533739
19996463086597 -> 157, 193, 7477, 88261
51408670348612 -> 2, 2, 5839, 2201090527
119666659114170 -> 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 7, 17, 89, 41847781
191206974700443 -> 3, 13, 4902742941037
409118905032525 -> 3, 3, 5, 5, 23, 197, 1663, 241313
611140496167764 -> 2, 2, 3, 3, 12211, 1390232159
2058769515153876 -> 2, 2, 3, 7, 43, 53, 197, 2477, 22039
4216495639600700 -> 2, 2, 5, 5, 53, 795565215019
6763683971478124 -> 2, 2, 14359547, 117755873
9974455244496707 -> 7019, 76123, 18668011
30045390491869460 -> 2, 2, 5, 19, 79066817083867
44218742292676575 -> 3, 3, 5, 5, 13, 15117518732539
138245758910846492 -> 2, 2, 23, 1002377, 1499107913
199976667976342049 -> 13, 167, 2511323, 36678953
525070384258266191 -> 307, 307, 5571097669559
1135041350219496382 -> 2, 13, 31, 71, 269, 587, 3637, 34537
1425787542618654982 -> 2, 13, 54837982408409807
3908372542507822062 -> 2, 3, 43, 62922991, 240750329
8993229949524469768 -> 2, 2, 2, 7, 251, 2383, 268491108091
17799667357578236628 -> 2, 2, 3, 19, 3761, 408229, 50847529
30568377312064202855 -> 5, 67, 5639, 16181749866767
46346217550346335726 -> 2, 13, 17, 104855695815263203
132656943602386256302 -> 2, 23, 3881, 743067920652377
219898266213316039825 -> 5, 5, 7, 1973, 4986139, 127729817
297274491920375905804 -> 2, 2, 11, 139, 48606032034070619
970436974005023690481 -> 3, 59, 1931, 255473, 11113907731

As you can see from the list, these keys do not correspond to the generation of secure RSA keys, which typically have two or three small prime factors and one large factor exceeding the value of sqrt(private key).

For example, puzzle #68 is cryptographically weak (I think whoever created the puzzles intentionally made them vulnerable, or they follow certain patterns which consequently made them insecure.):
219898266213316039825 -> 5, 5, 7, 1973, 4986139, 127729817
since its greatest prime divisor < sqrt(private key).

That is, we would first find the largest possible value for the Greatest Prime Divisor (GPD) that is < 2^34. Then, using the Miller-Rabin Primality Test, we would check each prime number in descending order within the range where:
2^67 < Private Key = GPD * number < 2^68
and consequently,
2^67 / GPD < number < 2^68 / GPD.

But given approach will not wrok if private key is a prime number as puzzle number 12, or GPD of a key is GPD>sqrt(private key).

Currently, I have a simple program written in Python that checks 5000 prime numbers per second. I think if it were optimized for a GPU, it could solve the vulnerable keys among the subsequent ones in a few hours.



I feel that your research is meaningless, as the private key of Bitcoin has nothing to do with the RSA encryption you mentioned.
The private key of Bitcoin does not need to meet the requirements of RSA keys at all.

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December 30, 2025, 03:56:50 PM
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Greetings, everyone. I recently learned about the BitPuzzle and it's pretty cool. On the forum, I explored several approaches to solving level 71—from statistical methods to mathematical computations that look for specific patterns. They are very diverse and all deserve respect. But I have a different question.

I'm currently using Fixed Paul. It works great and without errors. Special thanks to all the developers. With Fixed Paul, you can set the starting digits and a range, and search. For example:
./vanitysearch -gpuId 0 -start 7abcd0000000000000 -range 60 -o output.txt 1PWo3JeB9

But how can I use it if these are the last digits? Like this:
./vanitysearch -gpuId 0 -start 40000000000007abcd -range 60 -random -o output.txt 1PWo3JeB9
...so that 7abcd remains unchanged?

ok, so this is your start, -start 40000000000007abcd, then what would be the end range to search in or are you wanting it to search in areas like:

-start 40000000000007abcd
-start 40000000000017abcd
-start 40000000000027abcd
-start 40000000000037abcd
...
-start 7ffffade34c1f7abcd

etc?

Or, Would all private keys found that match the prefix end with 7abcd?

I'd need more explanation.
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December 30, 2025, 04:38:15 PM
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Greetings, everyone. I recently learned about the BitPuzzle and it's pretty cool. On the forum, I explored several approaches to solving level 71—from statistical methods to mathematical computations that look for specific patterns. They are very diverse and all deserve respect. But I have a different question.

I'm currently using Fixed Paul. It works great and without errors. Special thanks to all the developers. With Fixed Paul, you can set the starting digits and a range, and search. For example:
./vanitysearch -gpuId 0 -start 7abcd0000000000000 -range 60 -o output.txt 1PWo3JeB9

But how can I use it if these are the last digits? Like this:
./vanitysearch -gpuId 0 -start 40000000000007abcd -range 60 -random -o output.txt 1PWo3JeB9
...so that 7abcd remains unchanged?

ok, so this is your start, -start 40000000000007abcd, then what would be the end range to search in or are you wanting it to search in areas like:

-start 40000000000007abcd
-start 40000000000017abcd
-start 40000000000027abcd
-start 40000000000037abcd
...
-start 7ffffade34c1f7abcd

etc?

Or, Would all private keys found that match the prefix end with 7abcd?

I'd need more explanation.

simply -start 4000000000000 -range 49 +  as last digits 7abcd (not mathemtical addition) is added.
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December 30, 2025, 04:39:48 PM
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  I don't want to engage in polemics with some forum members who believe that the only way to solve problems is brute force. Given the current state of computing power, this approach would take millennia or entail financial costs exceeding the prize. Essentially, they are suggesting to wait for technological progress or embark on a thousand-year journey. Any other approaches seem to offend them (apparently, they have already started down this path) and they react hysterically to such a position. Moreover, they promote this vision aggressively and tactlessly, insulting other opinions and approaches, much like an aggressive LGBT community. I think even monkey could solve it with a powerful GPU and the right program.
  Continuing to develop alternative approaches to problem-solving, I'm sharing one line of thought on how the task could be solved. Below is a list of private keys with their prime multipliers.
 1 -> 1
3 -> 3
7 -> 7
8 -> 2, 2, 2
21 -> 3, 7
49 -> 7, 7
76 -> 2, 2, 19
224 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 7
467 -> 467
514 -> 2, 257
1155 -> 3, 5, 7, 11
2683 -> 2683
5216 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 163
10544 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 659
26867 -> 67, 401
51510 -> 2, 3, 5, 17, 101
95823 -> 3, 3, 3, 3, 7, 13, 13
198669 -> 3, 47, 1409
357535 -> 5, 23, 3109
863317 -> 7, 13, 53, 179
1811764 -> 2, 2, 19, 31, 769
3007503 -> 3, 3, 3, 23, 29, 167
5598802 -> 2, 11, 254491
14428676 -> 2, 2, 19, 189851
33185509 -> 7, 4740787
54538862 -> 2, 7, 7, 556519
111949941 -> 3, 43, 867829
227634408 -> 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 1053863
400708894 -> 2, 83, 2413909
1033162084 -> 2, 2, 47, 5495543
2102388551 -> 19, 19, 43, 167, 811
3093472814 -> 2, 23, 3001, 22409
7137437912 -> 2, 2, 2, 11, 751, 107999
14133072157 -> 19, 41, 131, 138493
20112871792 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 13, 96696499
42387769980 -> 2, 2, 3, 3, 5, 235487611
100251560595 -> 3, 5, 6683437373
146971536592 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 60037, 153001
323724968937 -> 3, 3, 138319, 260047
1003651412950 -> 2, 5, 5, 20073028259
1458252205147 -> 23, 63402269789
2895374552463 -> 3, 3, 59, 5452682773
7409811047825 -> 5, 5, 587, 2903, 173933
15404761757071 -> 2783789, 5533739
19996463086597 -> 157, 193, 7477, 88261
51408670348612 -> 2, 2, 5839, 2201090527
119666659114170 -> 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 7, 17, 89, 41847781
191206974700443 -> 3, 13, 4902742941037
409118905032525 -> 3, 3, 5, 5, 23, 197, 1663, 241313
611140496167764 -> 2, 2, 3, 3, 12211, 1390232159
2058769515153876 -> 2, 2, 3, 7, 43, 53, 197, 2477, 22039
4216495639600700 -> 2, 2, 5, 5, 53, 795565215019
6763683971478124 -> 2, 2, 14359547, 117755873
9974455244496707 -> 7019, 76123, 18668011
30045390491869460 -> 2, 2, 5, 19, 79066817083867
44218742292676575 -> 3, 3, 5, 5, 13, 15117518732539
138245758910846492 -> 2, 2, 23, 1002377, 1499107913
199976667976342049 -> 13, 167, 2511323, 36678953
525070384258266191 -> 307, 307, 5571097669559
1135041350219496382 -> 2, 13, 31, 71, 269, 587, 3637, 34537
1425787542618654982 -> 2, 13, 54837982408409807
3908372542507822062 -> 2, 3, 43, 62922991, 240750329
8993229949524469768 -> 2, 2, 2, 7, 251, 2383, 268491108091
17799667357578236628 -> 2, 2, 3, 19, 3761, 408229, 50847529
30568377312064202855 -> 5, 67, 5639, 16181749866767
46346217550346335726 -> 2, 13, 17, 104855695815263203
132656943602386256302 -> 2, 23, 3881, 743067920652377
219898266213316039825 -> 5, 5, 7, 1973, 4986139, 127729817
297274491920375905804 -> 2, 2, 11, 139, 48606032034070619
970436974005023690481 -> 3, 59, 1931, 255473, 11113907731

As you can see from the list, these keys do not correspond to the generation of secure RSA keys, which typically have two or three small prime factors and one large factor exceeding the value of sqrt(private key).

For example, puzzle #68 is cryptographically weak (I think whoever created the puzzles intentionally made them vulnerable, or they follow certain patterns which consequently made them insecure.):
219898266213316039825 -> 5, 5, 7, 1973, 4986139, 127729817
since its greatest prime divisor < sqrt(private key).

That is, we would first find the largest possible value for the Greatest Prime Divisor (GPD) that is < 2^34. Then, using the Miller-Rabin Primality Test, we would check each prime number in descending order within the range where:
2^67 < Private Key = GPD * number < 2^68
and consequently,
2^67 / GPD < number < 2^68 / GPD.

But given approach will not wrok if private key is a prime number as puzzle number 12, or GPD of a key is GPD>sqrt(private key).

Currently, I have a simple program written in Python that checks 5000 prime numbers per second. I think if it were optimized for a GPU, it could solve the vulnerable keys among the subsequent ones in a few hours.

Let’s put aside the fact that this is all trash.
What the f does LGBT has to do with any of this ?

I solved 67 and 68 using custom software distributing the load across ~25k GPUs. 4090 stocks speeds : ~8.1Bkeys/sec. Don’t challenge me technically if you know shit about fuck, I’ll ignore you. Same goes if all you can do is LLM reply.
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December 30, 2025, 04:52:24 PM
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Greetings, everyone. I recently learned about the BitPuzzle and it's pretty cool. On the forum, I explored several approaches to solving level 71—from statistical methods to mathematical computations that look for specific patterns. They are very diverse and all deserve respect. But I have a different question.

I'm currently using Fixed Paul. It works great and without errors. Special thanks to all the developers. With Fixed Paul, you can set the starting digits and a range, and search. For example:
./vanitysearch -gpuId 0 -start 7abcd0000000000000 -range 60 -o output.txt 1PWo3JeB9

But how can I use it if these are the last digits? Like this:
./vanitysearch -gpuId 0 -start 40000000000007abcd -range 60 -random -o output.txt 1PWo3JeB9
...so that 7abcd remains unchanged?

ok, so this is your start, -start 40000000000007abcd, then what would be the end range to search in or are you wanting it to search in areas like:

-start 40000000000007abcd
-start 40000000000017abcd
-start 40000000000027abcd
-start 40000000000037abcd
...
-start 7ffffade34c1f7abcd

etc?

Or, Would all private keys found that match the prefix end with 7abcd?

I'd need more explanation.

simply -start 4000000000000 -range 49 +  as last digits 7abcd (not mathemtical addition) is added.

I am taking what you said as:

range = 4000000000000:500000007abcd

So program would only search in that range, correct? Or am I missing something?
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December 30, 2025, 05:18:09 PM
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  I don't want to engage in polemics with some forum members who believe that the only way to solve problems is brute force. Given the current state of computing power, this approach would take millennia or entail financial costs exceeding the prize. Essentially, they are suggesting to wait for technological progress or embark on a thousand-year journey. Any other approaches seem to offend them (apparently, they have already started down this path) and they react hysterically to such a position. Moreover, they promote this vision aggressively and tactlessly, insulting other opinions and approaches, much like an aggressive LGBT community. I think even monkey could solve it with a powerful GPU and the right program.
  Continuing to develop alternative approaches to problem-solving, I'm sharing one line of thought on how the task could be solved. Below is a list of private keys with their prime multipliers.
 1 -> 1
3 -> 3
7 -> 7
8 -> 2, 2, 2
21 -> 3, 7
49 -> 7, 7
76 -> 2, 2, 19
224 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 7
467 -> 467
514 -> 2, 257
1155 -> 3, 5, 7, 11
2683 -> 2683
5216 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 163
10544 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 659
26867 -> 67, 401
51510 -> 2, 3, 5, 17, 101
95823 -> 3, 3, 3, 3, 7, 13, 13
198669 -> 3, 47, 1409
357535 -> 5, 23, 3109
863317 -> 7, 13, 53, 179
1811764 -> 2, 2, 19, 31, 769
3007503 -> 3, 3, 3, 23, 29, 167
5598802 -> 2, 11, 254491
14428676 -> 2, 2, 19, 189851
33185509 -> 7, 4740787
54538862 -> 2, 7, 7, 556519
111949941 -> 3, 43, 867829
227634408 -> 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 1053863
400708894 -> 2, 83, 2413909
1033162084 -> 2, 2, 47, 5495543
2102388551 -> 19, 19, 43, 167, 811
3093472814 -> 2, 23, 3001, 22409
7137437912 -> 2, 2, 2, 11, 751, 107999
14133072157 -> 19, 41, 131, 138493
20112871792 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 13, 96696499
42387769980 -> 2, 2, 3, 3, 5, 235487611
100251560595 -> 3, 5, 6683437373
146971536592 -> 2, 2, 2, 2, 60037, 153001
323724968937 -> 3, 3, 138319, 260047
1003651412950 -> 2, 5, 5, 20073028259
1458252205147 -> 23, 63402269789
2895374552463 -> 3, 3, 59, 5452682773
7409811047825 -> 5, 5, 587, 2903, 173933
15404761757071 -> 2783789, 5533739
19996463086597 -> 157, 193, 7477, 88261
51408670348612 -> 2, 2, 5839, 2201090527
119666659114170 -> 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 7, 17, 89, 41847781
191206974700443 -> 3, 13, 4902742941037
409118905032525 -> 3, 3, 5, 5, 23, 197, 1663, 241313
611140496167764 -> 2, 2, 3, 3, 12211, 1390232159
2058769515153876 -> 2, 2, 3, 7, 43, 53, 197, 2477, 22039
4216495639600700 -> 2, 2, 5, 5, 53, 795565215019
6763683971478124 -> 2, 2, 14359547, 117755873
9974455244496707 -> 7019, 76123, 18668011
30045390491869460 -> 2, 2, 5, 19, 79066817083867
44218742292676575 -> 3, 3, 5, 5, 13, 15117518732539
138245758910846492 -> 2, 2, 23, 1002377, 1499107913
199976667976342049 -> 13, 167, 2511323, 36678953
525070384258266191 -> 307, 307, 5571097669559
1135041350219496382 -> 2, 13, 31, 71, 269, 587, 3637, 34537
1425787542618654982 -> 2, 13, 54837982408409807
3908372542507822062 -> 2, 3, 43, 62922991, 240750329
8993229949524469768 -> 2, 2, 2, 7, 251, 2383, 268491108091
17799667357578236628 -> 2, 2, 3, 19, 3761, 408229, 50847529
30568377312064202855 -> 5, 67, 5639, 16181749866767
46346217550346335726 -> 2, 13, 17, 104855695815263203
132656943602386256302 -> 2, 23, 3881, 743067920652377
219898266213316039825 -> 5, 5, 7, 1973, 4986139, 127729817
297274491920375905804 -> 2, 2, 11, 139, 48606032034070619
970436974005023690481 -> 3, 59, 1931, 255473, 11113907731

As you can see from the list, these keys do not correspond to the generation of secure RSA keys, which typically have two or three small prime factors and one large factor exceeding the value of sqrt(private key).

For example, puzzle #68 is cryptographically weak (I think whoever created the puzzles intentionally made them vulnerable, or they follow certain patterns which consequently made them insecure.):
219898266213316039825 -> 5, 5, 7, 1973, 4986139, 127729817
since its greatest prime divisor < sqrt(private key).

That is, we would first find the largest possible value for the Greatest Prime Divisor (GPD) that is < 2^34. Then, using the Miller-Rabin Primality Test, we would check each prime number in descending order within the range where:
2^67 < Private Key = GPD * number < 2^68
and consequently,
2^67 / GPD < number < 2^68 / GPD.

But given approach will not wrok if private key is a prime number as puzzle number 12, or GPD of a key is GPD>sqrt(private key).

Currently, I have a simple program written in Python that checks 5000 prime numbers per second. I think if it were optimized for a GPU, it could solve the vulnerable keys among the subsequent ones in a few hours.



I feel that your research is meaningless, as the private key of Bitcoin has nothing to do with the RSA encryption you mentioned.
The private key of Bitcoin does not need to meet the requirements of RSA keys at all.


Seems like you are right. But knowing that Greatest Prime divisor <sqrt(private key) will give some advantages?
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December 30, 2025, 07:30:38 PM
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How does this make an advantage when the fundamental theorem of arithmetic states that every integer number greater than 1 is either a prime number itself or can be factorized as a product of prime numbers? This is applicable to every private key in the whole range of a particular puzzle. How do you want to exploit this to your advantage? Be more specific!

And the creator didn't make specific puzzles weaker than others, because if we take his words as true, all puzzles private keys were taken from a deterministic wallet (if taken from a specific sequence of keys is unknown and there was no specific detail stating it was a BIP39 HD wallet; we can assume this but have no proof).

The private keys appeared all as random numbers in the allowed range of Bitcoin private keys, little smaller than 2256. Those basically random numbers where then masked down to the ranges for each puzzle. I don't think you can distill some special properties of the masked private keys and have something to grasp on to exploit some magical procedure.

I mean, it would surprise me if it were possible. I don't say, I know all. Far from it.

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December 30, 2025, 09:25:25 PM
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How does this make an advantage when the fundamental theorem of arithmetic states that every integer number greater than 1 is either a prime number itself or can be factorized as a product of prime numbers? This is applicable to every private key in the whole range of a particular puzzle. How do you want to exploit this to your advantage? Be more specific!

And the creator didn't make specific puzzles weaker than others, because if we take his words as true, all puzzles private keys were taken from a deterministic wallet (if taken from a specific sequence of keys is unknown and there was no specific detail stating it was a BIP39 HD wallet; we can assume this but have no proof).

The private keys appeared all as random numbers in the allowed range of Bitcoin private keys, little smaller than 2256. Those basically random numbers where then masked down to the ranges for each puzzle. I don't think you can distill some special properties of the masked private keys and have something to grasp on to exploit some magical procedure.

I mean, it would surprise me if it were possible. I don't say, I know all. Far from it.

Trial division principle: if a number has no prime divisor up to its square root, it is prime.

For a composite key, there must be a prime factor ≤ sqrt(key).
If we know the key is even, the search is twice easier — you check only even numbers (step +2).

Here, instead of even/odd, I’m pointing out we should start searching from the largest possible prime divisor (GPD) just below sqrt(key) and go down.
If the real GPD is far below sqrt(key), the search jumps quickly — like starting with the biggest possible step down, not checking small primes.

It’s just trying to figure out the biggest jump.
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December 31, 2025, 07:48:43 AM
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How does this make an advantage when the fundamental theorem of arithmetic states that every integer number greater than 1 is either a prime number itself or can be factorized as a product of prime numbers? This is applicable to every private key in the whole range of a particular puzzle. How do you want to exploit this to your advantage? Be more specific!

And the creator didn't make specific puzzles weaker than others, because if we take his words as true, all puzzles private keys were taken from a deterministic wallet (if taken from a specific sequence of keys is unknown and there was no specific detail stating it was a BIP39 HD wallet; we can assume this but have no proof).

The private keys appeared all as random numbers in the allowed range of Bitcoin private keys, little smaller than 2256. Those basically random numbers where then masked down to the ranges for each puzzle. I don't think you can distill some special properties of the masked private keys and have something to grasp on to exploit some magical procedure.

I mean, it would surprise me if it were possible. I don't say, I know all. Far from it.

Trial division principle: if a number has no prime divisor up to its square root, it is prime.

For a composite key, there must be a prime factor ≤ sqrt(key).
If we know the key is even, the search is twice easier — you check only even numbers (step +2).

Here, instead of even/odd, I’m pointing out we should start searching from the largest possible prime divisor (GPD) just below sqrt(key) and go down.
If the real GPD is far below sqrt(key), the search jumps quickly — like starting with the biggest possible step down, not checking small primes.

It’s just trying to figure out the biggest jump.
Puzzle creator already said in his message factor of 10 in range 0.1 to 0.001, I already said focus these lines, complete solution inside it

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Currently, I have a simple program written in Python that checks 5000 prime numbers per second. I think if it were optimized for a GPU, it could solve the vulnerable keys among the subsequent ones in a few hours.

Imagine trying to find a single, specific grain of sand across all the beaches on Earth. There are roughly 2⁶² to 2⁶³ grains of sand on all beaches combined.

Puzzle 71 is like trying to search not just one Earth’s worth of sand, but 157.4 Earths’ worth (2⁷⁰).

Even if you could check a billion grains per second, it would still take thousands of years to go through them all.  Grin

And that’s before you factor in the fact that GPU brute force doesn’t magically flatten an exponential search space.

A single GPU doesn’t beat math.
It just loses faster.

1 GPU = hopeless

10 GPUs = still hopeless

100 GPUs = noise

1,000 GPUs = maybe your great-great-grandkids hear back

10,000+ GPUs, tightly coordinated, executing a highly optimized, distributed Pollard’s kangaroo implementation.....

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December 31, 2025, 09:09:22 AM
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10,000+ GPUs, tightly coordinated

Who has 10k+ GPUs?
Elon ?

And even he’d be like:
“Nice cluster. Still no.”  Embarrassed
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Currently, I have a simple program written in Python that checks 5000 prime numbers per second. I think if it were optimized for a GPU, it could solve the vulnerable keys among the subsequent ones in a few hours.

Imagine trying to find a single, specific grain of sand across all the beaches on Earth. There are roughly 2⁶² to 2⁶³ grains of sand on all beaches combined.

Puzzle 71 is like trying to search not just one Earth’s worth of sand, but 157.4 Earths’ worth (2⁷⁰).

Even if you could check a billion grains per second, it would still take thousands of years to go through them all.  Grin

And that’s before you factor in the fact that GPU brute force doesn’t magically flatten an exponential search space.

A single GPU doesn’t beat math.
It just loses faster.

1 GPU = hopeless

10 GPUs = still hopeless

100 GPUs = noise

1,000 GPUs = maybe your great-great-grandkids hear back

10,000+ GPUs, tightly coordinated, executing a highly optimized, distributed Pollard’s kangaroo implementation.....
Sorry bro, could you tell us how much thousands year taken for solve 69 and 68 puzzle ?

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how much thousands year taken for solve 69 and 68 puzzle ?

I don't even believe that they were resolved in a normal way. That there is a conspiracy.
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how much thousands year taken for solve 69 and 68 puzzle ?

I don't even believe that they were resolved in a normal way. That there is a conspiracy.

Nobody can verify how a puzzle was solved. The blockchain only proves that a valid private key was found, nothing more.

There’s no way anyone can verify how many GPUs or how long it took. Proving it would require a full dissertation, and even then it wouldn’t be conclusive. Grin

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How does this make an advantage when the fundamental theorem of arithmetic states that every integer number greater than 1 is either a prime number itself or can be factorized as a product of prime numbers? This is applicable to every private key in the whole range of a particular puzzle. How do you want to exploit this to your advantage? Be more specific!

And the creator didn't make specific puzzles weaker than others, because if we take his words as true, all puzzles private keys were taken from a deterministic wallet (if taken from a specific sequence of keys is unknown and there was no specific detail stating it was a BIP39 HD wallet; we can assume this but have no proof).

The private keys appeared all as random numbers in the allowed range of Bitcoin private keys, little smaller than 2256. Those basically random numbers where then masked down to the ranges for each puzzle. I don't think you can distill some special properties of the masked private keys and have something to grasp on to exploit some magical procedure.

I mean, it would surprise me if it were possible. I don't say, I know all. Far from it.

Trial division principle: if a number has no prime divisor up to its square root, it is prime.

For a composite key, there must be a prime factor ≤ sqrt(key).
If we know the key is even, the search is twice easier — you check only even numbers (step +2).

Here, instead of even/odd, I’m pointing out we should start searching from the largest possible prime divisor (GPD) just below sqrt(key) and go down.
If the real GPD is far below sqrt(key), the search jumps quickly — like starting with the biggest possible step down, not checking small primes.

It’s just trying to figure out the biggest jump.
Puzzle creator already said in his message factor of 10 in range 0.1 to 0.001, I already said focus these lines, complete solution inside it
can you explain more detailed, please? who is creator? where he said? and how it can be factor of 10?
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how much thousands year taken for solve 69 and 68 puzzle ?

I don't even believe that they were resolved in a normal way. That there is a conspiracy.

how I solved 68 was thoroughly discussed here already…

I solved 67 and 68 using custom software distributing the load across ~25k GPUs. 4090 stocks speeds : ~8.1Bkeys/sec. Don’t challenge me technically if you know shit about fuck, I’ll ignore you. Same goes if all you can do is LLM reply.
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how I solved 68 was thoroughly discussed here already…



Finally arrived at you, expert. Can you answer a few questions for me?
Firstly, what speed can your customized program achieve on a 5090 GPU? Currently, Fixed Paul's VanitySearch Bitcrack can achieve 8800M/s on 5090GPU
Secondly, is your customized program completely randomly scanned? Isn't it scanning incrementally in order? 
Thirdly, did you really use thousands of GPUs to solve puzzles 67 and 68? Do these expenses come from you personally? Or did many people invest together? How is the bonus distributed?
Fourthly, did you use Slipstream to safely transfer the bonuses for the puzzles 67 and 68?
Fifth, did you successfully solve it using the btcpuzzle pool?
Question 6, have you started scanning question 71 now? How can we join you?

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... who is creator? where he said? and how it can be factor of 10?
Why the fuck do you have to full-quote most of the times when you just add a sentence of your own? Too lazy to quote just the minimum amount of context necessary? The post you quote is already fully linked with the quote link.

But you're not alone with this annoying (pyramid) full-quote nonsense quite some here display mostly all the time.


See yourself for the user who claimed to be the creator: https://bitlist.co/search?author=saatoshi_rising&sort_by=date_desc

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... who is creator? where he said? and how it can be factor of 10?
Why the fuck do you have to full-quote most of the times when you just add a sentence of your own? Too lazy to quote just the minimum amount of context necessary? The post you quote is already fully linked with the quote link.

But you're not alone with this annoying (pyramid) full-quote nonsense quite some here display mostly all the time.


See yourself for the user who claimed to be the creator: https://bitlist.co/search?author=saatoshi_rising&sort_by=date_desc
Apparently, you want to advertise the f Duelbits (by the way, the project is complete garbage) and shamelessly barge into any conversation just to somehow sneak in a mention of Duelbits.
Find yourself some money and try advertising somewhere else.
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how I solved 68 was thoroughly discussed here already…

Many here think this is just marketing, or that you might have created the puzzle yourself  Roll Eyes
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