Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it

[kTimesG]

What a clown you are! Doesn’t the word “kangaroo” in the program’s name bother you at all?
Looks like your birds have flown off to warmer lands

So if you're doing groceries and see some tomatoes in the "Red Apples" compartment, you will call them apples just because they're all red and round, no?

Brainy much do you, or LLMishy clowniy dooey?

Please read some basic papers on the subject, and develop some actual neural synapses instead of the lobotomized crypto GPT non-brain, before calling other people retarded.

[Torin Keepler]

What a clown you are! Doesn’t the word “kangaroo” in the program’s name bother you at all?
Looks like your birds have flown off to warmer lands

So if you're doing groceries and see some tomatoes in the "Red Apples" compartment, you will call them apples just because they're all red and round, no?

Brainy much do you, or LLMishy clowniy dooey?

Please read some basic papers on the subject, and develop some actual neural synapses instead of the lobotomized crypto GPT non-brain, before calling other people retarded.

I have repeatedly noticed that you communicate rudely with many people. Your manner is consistently aggressive and provocative, yet you seem surprised when others respond to you in the same tone.

As for the technical point, the Kangaroo program does in fact use the kangaroo algorithm. This is evident from its structure. It includes a separation into wild and tame sequences, uses distinguished points evaluated via a function of the X-coordinate. The purpose of this algorithm is the detection of trajectory intersections and collisions between dif

Denying this only demonstrates that you do not understand the subject you are talking about.

[kTimesG]

the Kangaroo program does in fact use the kangaroo algorithm. This is evident from its structure. It includes a separation into wild and tame sequences, uses distinguished points evaluated via a function of the X-coordinate. The purpose of this algorithm is the detection of trajectory intersections and collisions between dif

Yes, tomatoes and apples can both be red. They're both round as well.

However, things that are round and red are not necessarily tomatoes. This is what you fail to grasp.

RCKang does NOT use the kangaroo algorithm. Denying this simply shows that you have zero idea of what YOU are talking about. We've already went around the subject, do you feel the need of a rehash?

Kangaroo does NOT go in two directions. RCKang does go side-ways.
Kangaroo does NOT have cycles. RCKang handles cycles.
Kangaroo does NOT use arbitrary jump tables or arbitrary sizes. RCKang uses arbitrary jump tables.

Kangaroo does NOT use the birthday paradox. This is stipulated in all available academic papers.
In fact, a kangaroo walk can happily go way outside the target interval, by design. Goodbye any birthday paradox analysis!
RCKang is a Gaudry-Schost equivalence class (negation map) with a different colors set multiple choices collision concept.

Now, who's retarded here? The blind guy (you), or actual science (100 peer reviewed papers)?

[bibilgin]

The Kangaroo algorithm is in no way related to the birthday paradox.
That's an incorrect statement.


The Kangaroo algorithm does not use the birthday paradox as an analytical tool,
However, it operates within the same probability theory framework that involves random coincidence probabilities.
That is the correct statement.

Drop the subject.

Everyone likes to show off with what they know. Just don't respond to useless people.

[dextronomous]

Wow. So Guys back to reallife now, Am missing NomAchine's presence in this chat, and all his codes, bro took it all to another level, fishing,,
can we keep it on the subject, requiring all of us getting it on at the codes there are and not breaking each other up each peace of code that someone brings up,.
and recently no one does bring up some, just but some closed .exe's so these none exe's stalled since NoM.. you know, missing here,

so chill

[Torin Keepler]

the Kangaroo program does in fact use the kangaroo algorithm. This is evident from its structure. It includes a separation into wild and tame sequences, uses distinguished points evaluated via a function of the X-coordinate. The purpose of this algorithm is the detection of trajectory intersections and collisions between dif

Yes, tomatoes and apples can both be red. They're both round as well.

However, things that are round and red are not necessarily tomatoes. This is what you fail to grasp.

RCKang does NOT use the kangaroo algorithm. Denying this simply shows that you have zero idea of what YOU are talking about. We've already went around the subject, do you feel the need of a rehash?

Kangaroo does NOT go in two directions. RCKang does go side-ways.
Kangaroo does NOT have cycles. RCKang handles cycles.
Kangaroo does NOT use arbitrary jump tables or arbitrary sizes. RCKang uses arbitrary jump tables.

Kangaroo does NOT use the birthday paradox. This is stipulated in all available academic papers.
In fact, a kangaroo walk can happily go way outside the target interval, by design. Goodbye any birthday paradox analysis!
RCKang is a Gaudry-Schost equivalence class (negation map) with a different colors set multiple choices collision concept.

Now, who's retarded here? The blind guy (you), or actual science (100 peer reviewed papers)?

Sometimes it seems to me that I am not communicating with a person but with a Siri chatbot.
To claim that the Kangaroo program is not based on the kangaroo algorithmic method is completely absurd and clearly demonstrates your level of understanding of the program implementation.

Yes, RCKangaroo uses CUDA cores and parallel computations. RetiredCoder also introduced many innovations, added a second type of wild herds, and therefore adapted the private key computation for the case of a collision between two wild herds. He also adapted the detection approach, the exit from cycles, and many other aspects.

Even so, are you really not bothered by the word kangaroo in the program name, and do you truly fail to see that the kangaroo algorithmic method lies at its core?

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

You can go on for a long time making infantile arguments about apples and tomatoes while failing to see the obvious.
It is obvious that you do not understand the basic principles underlying this program at all.

In principle, there is nothing wrong with the fact that you do not understand the processes embedded in this program.
What is very bad, however, is that you are spreading complete nonsense and disinformation to a wide audience.

https://t.me/puzzle135

[kTimesG]

Relax, buddy. It's OK if you don't understand how a tool you've downloaded from GitHub works.

Also, probably by this summer I'll publish my DLP solver, written from scratch in C and CUDA, and some huge improvements, both algorithmical and technical optimizations (e.g. much higher speeds, AND a lower overall complexity then RCKang SOTA), so I'm not really bothered that you're using some basic proof of concept stripped off from an optimized cracking tool, which you fail to grasp how it works, to attempt solving a 134-bits DLP.

I'm also sure I have more 32-bit DPs gathered so far then your entire idiots pool "checkpoints", times 100.

RetiredCoder also introduced many innovations, added a second type of wild herds, and therefore adapted the private key computation for the case of a collision between two wild herds. He also adapted the detection approach, the exit from cycles, and many other aspects.

I posted the 3-type collision formulas 4 months before RCKang was ever a thing.

Also the 3-types algorithm already existed in literature.

Since then, I decided to keep the other several things which I'm using as optimizations to myself, though I posted a SHA256 hash of some important things no one has ever noticed or used in practice, so history will make justice in the future...

[Torin Keepler]

Relax, buddy. It's OK if you don't understand how a tool you've downloaded from GitHub works.

Also, probably by this summer I'll publish my DLP solver, written from scratch in C and CUDA, and some huge improvements, both algorithmical and technical optimizations (e.g. much higher speeds, AND a lower overall complexity then RCKang SOTA), so I'm not really bothered that you're using some basic proof of concept stripped off from an optimized cracking tool, which you fail to grasp how it works, to attempt solving a 134-bits DLP.

I'm also sure I have more 32-bit DPs gathered so far then your entire idiots pool "checkpoints", times 100.

RetiredCoder also introduced many innovations, added a second type of wild herds, and therefore adapted the private key computation for the case of a collision between two wild herds. He also adapted the detection approach, the exit from cycles, and many other aspects.

I posted the 3-type collision formulas 4 months before RCKang was ever a thing.

Also the 3-types algorithm already existed in literature.

Since then, I decided to keep the other several things which I'm using as optimizations to myself, though I posted a SHA256 hash of some important things no one has ever noticed or used in practice, so history will make justice in the future...

When I pointed you directly to the link where the program developer clearly states that he uses the kangaroo algorithmic method, instead of simply admitting that you were wrong, you jumped to another topic, talking about how great you are and how you are supposedly about to write a program better than the one written by RC.
First write it, release it, or better yet, solve the puzzle, and only after that praise yourself for how great you are.

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth who cannot admit being wrong because your inflated ego has been hurt. And you have no choice but to start praising yourself.

You are completely clear to me, and I have lost interest in continuing this conversation.

[kTimesG]

When I pointed you directly to the link where the program developer clearly states that he uses the kangaroo algorithmic method, instead of simply admitting that you were wrong

1. Take your anxiety pills.
2. I'm not wrong, RCKang doesn't use the kangaroo method. In what language do you need translation, so this information actually dissolves into your brain?

You're spreading around non-sense, that is my only concern. If you can't handle the actual theory behind some GitHub repo, at least STFU and go back to your Python file scanner. RetiredCoder simply used an inappropriate name for his PoC, deal with it, instead of fighting an useless false argument. Read the dozens of papers, maybe.

I'm done with this topic.

[Bram24732]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

[Torin Keepler]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

[Bram24732]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I don’t care about semantics. They could be Koalas for all I care.
What matters is that your project is scammy, whatever the name of the algorithm.

[Torin Keepler]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I don’t care about semantics. They could be Koalas for all I care.
What matters is that your project is scammy, whatever the name of the algorithm.

RetiredCoder wrote the program, proved its effectiveness in practice, earned more than one million dollars, released one of its versions to the public, and clearly described how it works and which algorithms were used. And your argument is that you do not care. Keep going in the same spirit, do not deny yourself anything.

[analyticnomad]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I look forward to the day people don't double down on being wrong and just say "fuck, I might be wrong this time, and thats okay".

You have the most two reputable on here telling you whats what. Man the fuck up.

[Torin Keepler]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I look forward to the day people don't double down on being wrong and just say "fuck, I might be wrong this time, and thats okay".

You have the most two reputable on here telling you whats what. Man the fuck up.

It is a logical error to rely on authority rather than conduct your own analysis.
Moreover, someone who may appear to be an authority to one person may not be considered one by others.

[analyticnomad]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I look forward to the day people don't double down on being wrong and just say "fuck, I might be wrong this time, and thats okay".

You have the most two reputable on here telling you whats what. Man the fuck up.

It is a logical error to rely on authority rather than conduct your own analysis.
Moreover, someone who may appear to be an authority to one person may not be considered one by others.

The irony of this comment isn't lost on me.

[snaz3d]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I don’t care about semantics. They could be Koalas for all I care.
What matters is that your project is scammy, whatever the name of the algorithm.

RetiredCoder wrote the program, proved its effectiveness in practice, earned more than one million dollars, released one of its versions to the public, and clearly described how it works and which algorithms were used. And your argument is that you do not care. Keep going in the same spirit, do not deny yourself anything.

Are you sure / certain that that's what he used to reach the key(s)? That software was released way after the latest key (130) was found and even now it has its flaws not even to mention how would it have worked on 400 GPUs he claims to have used to get it.

[Torin Keepler]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I don’t care about semantics. They could be Koalas for all I care.
What matters is that your project is scammy, whatever the name of the algorithm.

RetiredCoder wrote the program, proved its effectiveness in practice, earned more than one million dollars, released one of its versions to the public, and clearly described how it works and which algorithms were used. And your argument is that you do not care. Keep going in the same spirit, do not deny yourself anything.

Are you sure / certain that that's what he used to reach the key(s)? That software was released way after the latest key (130) was found and even now it has its flaws not even to mention how would it have worked on 400 GPUs he claims to have used to get it.

In one of his posts, he wrote that he used his own version of the program to solve the puzzle.
He also stated that he is currently using a more efficient version of the program. Therefore,
which specific version of the program was used to find the 130th puzzle is known only to him.
However, one thing can be stated with certainty: his program is indeed very fast.
I tested it on various ranges. In particular, in the latest test, a test private key was found within a 115-bit range.

Whether to believe this developer or not is something everyone must decide for themselves.

[snaz3d]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I don’t care about semantics. They could be Koalas for all I care.
What matters is that your project is scammy, whatever the name of the algorithm.

RetiredCoder wrote the program, proved its effectiveness in practice, earned more than one million dollars, released one of its versions to the public, and clearly described how it works and which algorithms were used. And your argument is that you do not care. Keep going in the same spirit, do not deny yourself anything.

Are you sure / certain that that's what he used to reach the key(s)? That software was released way after the latest key (130) was found and even now it has its flaws not even to mention how would it have worked on 400 GPUs he claims to have used to get it.

In one of his posts, he wrote that he used his own version of the program to solve the puzzle.
He also stated that he is currently using a more efficient version of the program. Therefore,
which specific version of the program was used to find the 130th puzzle is known only to him.
However, one thing can be stated with certainty: his program is indeed very fast.
I tested it on various ranges. In particular, in the latest test, a test private key was found within a 115-bit range.

Whether to believe this developer or not is something everyone must decide for themselves.

What GPU did you use for a 115bit range? And how long did it take?

[Torin Keepler]

In my eyes, you are a foolish loudmouth

kTimesG is one of the only ones who knows his shit around here.
He calls you out on your BS, just deal with it. But please do so silently.

I am sending you a link to the GitHub repository of the developer RetiredCoder, where in the very first paragraph of the description he explicitly states that this is an efficient implementation of a program using the Kangaroo algorithmic method.
https://github.com/RetiredC/RCKangaroo

Here is the quote itself:

"(c) 2024, RetiredCoder (RC)
RCKangaroo is free and open source GPLv3. This software demonstrates efficient GPU implementation of SOTA Kangaroo method for solving ECDLP. It is part 3 of my research, you can find more details here: https://github.com/RetiredC
"

I don’t care about semantics. They could be Koalas for all I care.
What matters is that your project is scammy, whatever the name of the algorithm.

RetiredCoder wrote the program, proved its effectiveness in practice, earned more than one million dollars, released one of its versions to the public, and clearly described how it works and which algorithms were used. And your argument is that you do not care. Keep going in the same spirit, do not deny yourself anything.

Are you sure / certain that that's what he used to reach the key(s)? That software was released way after the latest key (130) was found and even now it has its flaws not even to mention how would it have worked on 400 GPUs he claims to have used to get it.

In one of his posts, he wrote that he used his own version of the program to solve the puzzle.
He also stated that he is currently using a more efficient version of the program. Therefore,
which specific version of the program was used to find the 130th puzzle is known only to him.
However, one thing can be stated with certainty: his program is indeed very fast.
I tested it on various ranges. In particular, in the latest test, a test private key was found within a 115-bit range.

Whether to believe this developer or not is something everyone must decide for themselves.

What GPU did you use for a 115bit range? And how long did it take?

The 115-bit range was solved as part of a challenge. The address was funded with $200, and some participants redirected their computing power from the 135th puzzle to this challenge. In the end, it took us about 30 days to find the key.

The idea is that everyone searches locally on their own computer, while the work done is not lost, since all discovered checkpoints are saved to a file. Because the kangaroo algorithm does not store all points but only checkpoints, the size of such a file is relatively small. Once a day, all participants shared their files in a public location. At some point, while analyzing this database, we were able to compute the private key.

Another important feature is that if you find the private key locally, there is no need to share any files, since you already have the private key in your possession.
Roughly speaking, saving data to a file and exchanging these files between participants is an optional feature of the program.

This approach provides very good scalability.

https://t.me/puzzle135