Requesting Dooglus to be removed from DefaultTrust

[mexxer-2]

He absolutely should not be anywhere near DT, let alone on L1 Default Trust

Well personal feud is one thing, but once given a position in DT 1, probably for having a maintained trust list(IIRC CITM was given the position mostly because he had a big trust list, correct me if I am wrong) , being one of the "oldest member" and being regularly active, I believe it takes much much more than personal feud with another individual( BAC) to be removed from DT 1. Theymos even turned a blind eye when CITM began abusing his DT 1 position until it was too much and nearly all of the community(well the ones still in DT anyway) "decided" against having him on DT 1, after which he was removed(yeah read the whole thread, mayne was it long).
I wonder though, if BAC distrusts doog, why not remove him from his trust list as well?

Edit: Just realized, you knew all this 

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[minifrij]

You are indeed correct. Im not sure what to make of BACs rating though. For one it includes:
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and BAC has doog in their trust list. There is also no way to verify their story and the two had some issues a while back.

From what I can gather from the feedback he left on dooglus and others on the same day, it isn't that BAC doesn't trust dooglus it's that he doesn't like Clam. Therefore, he negative trusted some of the largest players involved (doog, SuperClam and xploited) to try and bring down the reputation of the coin. There is literally nothing negative said about dooglus in the feedback other than "he switched the site to a coin i dont like anymore and got a lot of it". Who knows, if he gets tired of Bitcoin he might leave satoshi a neg for owning a lot of BTC.
Personally I don't think that BAC should be on DT for this reason, though that obviously isn't my decision to make.

He has also endorsed multiple gambling sites that ended up stealing millions of dollars worth of bitcoin, gave people incentives to deposit their BTC at inputs (one of TF's sites that ended up having ~4k BTC stolen/lost)

Unless he continued endorsing them after they began scamming, I can't really see why that is entirely his fault. In the case of inputs, it was promoted by a lot of large websites and ran by someone previously extremely trusted in the Bitcoin community; I don't see it as particularly fair to target dooglus for this without mentioning the other people involved.

has a history of using his trust ratings as a form of extortion, among many other transgressions.

Do you have an example of this? I can't say I've ever really heard it before.

[Heutenamos]

It is because of digging petition.They are removing/removed it & I too think it is wrong to change it now just because some one is benefiting from it.
Edit : regardless of who is involved ,but bac's ratings are not wrong in some sense.

[DeathAngel]

Isn't dooglus the guy behind Prime Dice?

If so then he is one of the most trusted members of the community?

[mexxer-2]

Isn't dooglus the guy behind Prime Dice?

If so then he is one of the most trusted members of the community?

Thats stunna you're talking about. And he's on DT 2, under doog's trust list. Dooglus runs just-dice.com.

[coolcoinz]

Don't know him but what is he accused of? Promoting an altcoin and making money on it? Is this really worth neg. trust? Many people here are doing it.

[redsn0w]

The drama about the default trust will never end  , however you should argue better your point...

[shorena]

It is because of digging petition.They are removing/removed it & I too think it is wrong to change it now just because some one is benefiting from it.
Edit : regardless of who is involved ,but bac's ratings are not wrong in some sense.

It was enough for me to divest everything from JD and sell all my CLAM, but I doubt that doog knew about CLAM in advance. Just because of the way JD and doge dice works they had plenty of addresses to dig CLAMs from.

Maybe BAC can shed some more light on the rating.

[Alex194]

It is because of digging petition.They are removing/removed it & I too think it is wrong to change it now just because some one is benefiting from it.
Edit : regardless of who is involved ,but bac's ratings are not wrong in some sense.

It was enough for me to divest everything from JD and sell all my CLAM, but I doubt that doog knew about CLAM in advance. Just because of the way JD and doge dice works they had plenty of addresses to dig CLAMs from.

Maybe BAC can shed some more light on the rating.

That would be great because there is no reference link in his rating, he didn't provide any proof or evidence so in any case he is the one abusing dt position.

[ABitNut]

You people need to stop entertaining newbie accounts.  If they don't post from their main account, they don't stand behind their words.

Who is saying is not important, what is being stated is what matters. Celebrity culture should not be celebrated.

I disagree. With all the sock puppets¹ around it is important to know who you're shilling for. Also all you have said was:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3420

I think, a person with the following trust rating is not eligible to be on DT.

Trust:    1: -1 / +15

And the answer to that is DT is a separate concept from the trust score. Your score does not impact the quality of your feedback.


^{Hello QuickSeller, are you using multiple accounts to comment on this thread?}

[Heutenamos]

It is because of digging petition.They are removing/removed it & I too think it is wrong to change it now just because some one is benefiting from it.
Edit : regardless of who is involved ,but bac's ratings are not wrong in some sense.

It was enough for me to divest everything from JD and sell all my CLAM, but I doubt that doog knew about CLAM in advance. Just because of the way JD and doge dice works they had plenty of addresses to dig CLAMs from.

Maybe BAC can shed some more light on the rating.

I think it's pretty clear if you consider everything relating to clam/JD and read it.

That would be great because there is no reference link in his rating, he didn't provide any proof or evidence so in any case he is the one abusing dt position.

Literally all ratings are just abuse if your logic is taken into consideration.It's Opinion based and he can have his own regardless of the weight of DT.

[ABitNut]

It is because of digging petition.They are removing/removed it & I too think it is wrong to change it now just because some one is benefiting from it.
Edit : regardless of who is involved ,but bac's ratings are not wrong in some sense.

It was enough for me to divest everything from JD and sell all my CLAM, but I doubt that doog knew about CLAM in advance. Just because of the way JD and doge dice works they had plenty of addresses to dig CLAMs from.

Maybe BAC can shed some more light on the rating.

I think it's pretty clear if you consider everything relating to clam/JD and read it.

That would be great because there is no reference link in his rating, he didn't provide any proof or evidence so in any case he is the one abusing dt position.

Literally all ratings are just abuse if your logic is taken into consideration.It's Opinion based and he can have his own regardless of the weight of DT.

In addition, if you do not agree with their feedback you can ask them for more details and / or exclude them from your trust list.

As a side node, the "talking through feedback" thing doesn't usually work out well. Personal messages might be a better option.

[MyBTT]

Why should we trust a newbie? Looking at his trust ratings, he has done less bad than good. So he should be kept at his trust.

[RayBrady]

I know how badly doog wants to post.

Doog is among the the most trusted users on this forum. If I won a million bucks gambling one night and had to choose one guy to hold it, it'd be dooglus. He'd be the last person to sell his account. The last to scam, the last to run off with gunds. He's an avid gambler himself, just because you see him gambling on a website, or have that website in his sig, he is not endorsing it.

If I have a Primedice sig in my profile, and Primedice runs off tomorrow, is it my fault? Did I encourage you to go to Primedice? Did I know it was a scam? To call dooglus a scammer is a joke imo.

[BayAreaCoins]

If you give dooglus Bitcoins and he is supposed to give them back... he's going to.

I do not think he should be removed from the DT, but I do think ppl should be warned about things he has a strong hold on because I do believe he would use his coding powers to bend your service over and fuck you in the ass. Little known fact and kinda a lols - Dogecoin got pwned by dooglus (again I can't bitch because we were sure that Nix and I's mining pool was on the right side of the fork... it actually helped us... I never asked doog if he did it on purpose to help us, but I kinda get the feeling dooglus doesn't "accidentally" add 0's on withdraws and I do thank him for that... he was good to me for a long time until JD filled up with loser cocksuckers.)

Just because I don't trust him in regards to that doesn't mean that I don't think he'd steal BTC directly.  He will def leave off details that will save his BTC, but lose your coins as seen in the exchange he built for the aussie and the dice sites that he processed his withdraw on hours prior to them robbing everyone else.  The dude is deceptive and smart as fuck... he's a poker player what do you expect?

My trust left for him is accurate and I'll try to find the Doog post of him saying that he told me.  I felt like I was told because Rat4 had pretty much ruined CLAM cheating the lotto and if he would have held his CLAM on the JD launched it would have fucked shit up... over all it was for the good of the whole and if you look at the CLAM market it obviously worked out in every ones favor.

Feel free to ask me anything and check my/doogs post history for more details.

[BayAreaCoins]

My trust list still consists of:

Dooglus, saltyspitoon, dognutz. (not including default trust)

and that is that.

As far as BTC goes and no coding included I'd trust all of them with over $1 million dollars if needed and I know they'd give it back.

I would NOT recommending trusting people because Dooglus trusts them.

[BayAreaCoins]

From what I can gather from the feedback he left on dooglus and others on the same day, it isn't that BAC doesn't trust dooglus it's that he doesn't like Clam. Therefore, he negative trusted some of the largest players involved (doog, SuperClam and xploited) to try and bring down the reputation of the coin. There is literally nothing negative said about dooglus in the feedback other than "he switched the site to a coin i dont like anymore and got a lot of it".

Wrong.  I owned more CLAM than Dooglus at JD launched (I owned 30% of the CLAM O/S at the time of launch) and I probably loved JD more than even Dooglus... you'll see Dooglus say this same thing in his past post history

Most of my friends own CLAM and I don't want to hurt their holdings.

The only person I truthfully just do not like and never did is SuperCLAM (AKA CreativeCLAM and whatever other accounts she's had).... Xploited blindly follows he for no reason which leads me to believe they are crooked together in regards to something that they aren't saying.

My trust for Xploited was because he didn't do what he said he was going to and left me with a site I paid thousands of dollars for it to work and it still was buggy (I told CreativeCLAM I hope she died during child birth and he didn't take to kindly to that fuck her and I stand by the comment... it'd be best for CLAM at this point IMO)

Who knows, if he gets tired of Bitcoin he might leave satoshi a neg for owning a lot of BTC.

 

It is because of digging petition.They are removing/removed it & I too think it is wrong to change it now just because some one is benefiting from it.
Edit : regardless of who is involved ,but bac's ratings are not wrong in some sense.

^ this ^

[Heutenamos]

I all ready said that its not hard to read BACoins thoughts & his reasons.

However, How deceiving it is to change the distribution thing when you see someone else is in the profit zone ? If you can change the foundation just to stop people to get ahead then you are definitely not trustworthy and have no integrity.

The honesty question is really a complex one.People will not run with your money/coins because of their reputation and it might bring their future business down or less benefiting (which will be far more then the amount they can scam by running ).However bac's has cleared this well enough.

Doog might/might not be involved but if you see from his point of view then why would a businessman be a social worker and work for people rather than benefiting for himself ? why should he not make millions by changing,being late in disclosing some basic things etc.. ? he is not a Messiah ,is he ?

But again nothing can be judged until it is proven that doog knew everything and then it will be untrustworthy of him but he will still return your coins loll.."it's like not feeling anything for the dead but not killing either".

[Blazed]

I do not see where he has abused his position at all? I would trust him with holding coins just like pretty much anyone else here. The whole CLAM thing...not sure and do not really care. I do not see how him being removed really changes things for the better here trust wise? If he were removed then they would probably need to add a new person with a good list setup.

[Warren Buffet]

And the answer to that is DT is a separate concept from the trust score. Your score does not impact the quality of your feedback.

What nonsense! Then why was QS removed from DT? It is the most ridiculous concept that -ve trust members can sit well in DT.