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December 29, 2015, 06:10:23 AM
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I need to know what the point of spending thousands of US dollars on space trips is meant for. I don't know what we've accomplished and found beneficial to society and the overall growth of human living by having money and such being tossed for the government to send random men up into space. I don't understand why space travel is so necessary. Please tell me how the moon launchings weren't fake, or needed for the human race.
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December 29, 2015, 06:15:40 AM
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You should read up on some of the great works by Char Aznable.

Earth is merely Humanity's cradle, our next evolutionary step will take place once we rid ourselves from the chains of Earth's gravitational pull.  Sieg Zeon
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December 29, 2015, 06:18:32 AM
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You should read up on some of the great works by Char Aznable.

Earth is merely Humanity's cradle, our next evolutionary step will take place once we rid ourselves from the chains of Earth's gravitational pull.  Sieg Zeon
....How is the country's flag allegedly being on the moon helping us with famine or war? Mass genocide is happening in Iraq and we're more focused on throwing away money so random people can go play in space?
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December 29, 2015, 06:37:15 AM
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lol i thought of that either.

but i've read an article months ago about possible mining on space. NOT BITCOIN of course but possibly rare elements and stuff.
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December 29, 2015, 06:39:41 AM
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lol i thought of that either.

but i've read an article months ago about possible mining on space. NOT BITCOIN of course but possibly rare elements and stuff.
But why should you care about rocks? Unless they're nuclear rocks that we can use to power the electricity of the entire tri state area, what is the point of that?
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December 29, 2015, 06:49:57 AM
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I need to know what the point of spending thousands of US dollars on space trips is meant for. I don't know what we've accomplished and found beneficial to society and the overall growth of human living by having money and such being tossed for the government to send random men up into space. I don't understand why space travel is so necessary. Please tell me how the moon launchings weren't fake, or needed for the human race.
The point is research, without research we would still be living in the dark ages. There are uses beyond "putting guy in space",  satellite network provides you with GPS, tv.  If you are wondering about taxes you might as well wonder whats the point of spending thousands of US dollars on mass surveillance  Roll Eyes

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December 29, 2015, 06:56:09 AM
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lol i thought of that either.

but i've read an article months ago about possible mining on space. NOT BITCOIN of course but possibly rare elements and stuff.
But why should you care about rocks? Unless they're nuclear rocks that we can use to power the electricity of the entire tri state area, what is the point of that?

Is that all you care about?  All humanity should do is worry about powering electricity for the time being? LOL,

WTF does space even have to do with genocide in Iraq?  You are seriously saying we should stop spending billions on space exploration, rather spending it on middle eastern conflict - when we're already spending TRILLIONS to only add fuel to the fire (and we have been for decades)

2/10 trolling for getting me to respond.  If serious, it's too late, there's no hope in saving you.  But I'd recommend ceasing your 'asking questions to every answer to your question' strategy, but instead read a book
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December 29, 2015, 07:06:42 AM
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lol i thought of that either.

but i've read an article months ago about possible mining on space. NOT BITCOIN of course but possibly rare elements and stuff.
But why should you care about rocks? Unless they're nuclear rocks that we can use to power the electricity of the entire tri state area, what is the point of that?

Is that all you care about?  All humanity should do is worry about powering electricity for the time being? LOL,

WTF does space even have to do with genocide in Iraq?  You are seriously saying we should stop spending billions on space exploration, rather spending it on middle eastern conflict - when we're already spending TRILLIONS to only add fuel to the fire (and we have been for decades)

2/10 trolling for getting me to respond.  If serious, it's too late, there's no hope in saving you.  But I'd recommend ceasing your 'asking questions to every answer to your question' strategy, but instead read a book
No its not all I care about but it's necessary to worry about worldly problems first before tampering with mother nature. Humanity shouldn't just worry about that, but it shouldn't throw away trillions of dollars on research that isn't needed at the moment. We've been doing these moon launchings since 1982. Tell me one good beneficial thing we got out of these launchings.

The world should worry about earthly issues before worrying about doing cart wheels in space.
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December 29, 2015, 07:08:29 AM
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I need to know what the point of spending thousands of US dollars on space trips is meant for. I don't know what we've accomplished and found beneficial to society and the overall growth of human living by having money and such being tossed for the government to send random men up into space. I don't understand why space travel is so necessary. Please tell me how the moon launchings weren't fake, or needed for the human race.
The point is research, without research we would still be living in the dark ages. There are uses beyond "putting guy in space",  satellite network provides you with GPS, tv.  If you are wondering about taxes you might as well wonder whats the point of spending thousands of US dollars on mass surveillance  Roll Eyes
Research is necessary but only when there's a point. I have yet to be given one beneficial thing society got out of these launchings. Please tell me what we got out them.
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December 29, 2015, 07:20:44 AM
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lol i thought of that either.

but i've read an article months ago about possible mining on space. NOT BITCOIN of course but possibly rare elements and stuff.
But why should you care about rocks? Unless they're nuclear rocks that we can use to power the electricity of the entire tri state area, what is the point of that?

why should we care about resolving wars either when we need to have resources through  mining the space. unless you want them to mined your country and exploit it the first.
we can't solve our own country's conflict,  wars is business for them.
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December 29, 2015, 07:28:52 AM
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Compare this:

Annual budget of NASA: $18 billion
Annual defense budget of the USA: $600 billion

Annual budget of Roskosmos: $2.25 billion
Annual defense budget of Russia: $60 billion

Now tell me which one is wasteful expense here.
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December 29, 2015, 07:35:22 AM
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Compare this:

Annual budget of NASA: $18 billion
Annual defense budget of the USA: $600 billion

Annual budget of Roskosmos: $2.25 billion
Annual defense budget of Russia: $60 billion

Now tell me which one is wasteful expense here.
Please give works cited, signed and dated.
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December 29, 2015, 10:04:10 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining

You'd have to be a complete moron to not understand why space travel is important, we're running out of resources on earth and there's an absolute abundance of raw materials up in space just waiting to be collected, all we need to do is figure out how to get there and back efficiently and we'll not only be rich but it will benefit mankind as we won't have to worry about consuming any rare materials anymore.

By the way, there's plenty more about this on the web dating back quite far, one asteroid spotted by NASA was estimated to have almost 1 trillion dollars worth of precious metals inside it, this is partly why there are private companies like SpaceX making a move to build rockets now and why having a re-usable rocket that's a lot cheaper than all these expensive government space programs is so important. You also have water on the moon being found and ice in asteroids etc. which means that you could sustain life out there if you had to long term.
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December 29, 2015, 02:19:00 PM
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Compare this:

Annual budget of NASA: $18 billion
Annual defense budget of the USA: $600 billion

Annual budget of Roskosmos: $2.25 billion
Annual defense budget of Russia: $60 billion

Now tell me which one is wasteful expense here.
Please give works cited, signed and dated.

http://kearth101.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/list-stuff-we-use-everyday-that-was-invented-from-the-space-program/
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December 29, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
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Well, apart from the ISS they´ve given up on circling the earth in low orbit because they´re not even capable of doing that safely so I don´t really see them venturing further afield this century.

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December 29, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
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Well, apart from the ISS they´ve given up on circling the earth in low orbit because they´re not even capable of doing that safely so I don´t really see them venturing further afield this century.
Really?  (yawn....)

 Apollo - NASA Manned Lunar Program (1963 - 1972)
Cassini - NASA/European Space Agency Mission to Saturn (1997)
Chandrayaan-1 - ISRO (India) Orbiter to the Moon (2007)
Chang'e 1 - CAST (China) Orbiter to the Moon (2007)
Chang'e 2 - CAST (China) Orbiter to the Moon (2010)
Chang'e 3 - CSNA (China) Lander and Rover to the Moon (2013)
Clementine - DoD/NASA Lunar Mapping Mission (1994)
CONTOUR - NASA Fly-by Mission to three Comet Nuclei (2002)
Dawn - NASA Asteroid Ceres and Vesta Orbiter (2007)
Deep Impact - NASA Rendezvous and Impact with Comet Tempel 1 (2005)
Deep Space 1 (DS1) - NASA Flyby Mission to asteroid 1992 KD (1998)
Deep Space 2 - NASA Penetrator Mission to Mars (1999)
Galileo - NASA Mission to Jupiter (1989)
Genesis - NASA Solar Wind Sample Return (2001)
Giotto - ESA Mission to Comets Halley and Grigg-Skjellerup (1985)
Hayabusa (Muses-C) - ISAS (Japan) Sample Return Mission to Asteroid Itokawa (2003)
Hiten - ISAS Flyby and Orbiter Mission to the Moon (1990)
Huygens - NASA/European Space Agency Mission to Saturn's satellite Titan (1997)
ICE (ISEE-3) - NASA Mission to Comet Giacobini-Zinner (1978)
Kaguya (SELENE) - JAXA (Japan) Orbiter to the Moon (2007)
Luna - Soviet Lunar Missions (1959 - 1976)
Lunar Orbiter - NASA Lunar Mapping Missions (1966 - 1967)
Lunar Prospector - NASA Global Orbiter Mission to the Moon (1998)
Magellan - NASA Venus Radar Mapping Mission (1989)
Mariner 2 - NASA Venus flyby (1962)
Mariner 4 - NASA Mars flyby (1964)
Mariner 5 - NASA Venus flyby (1967)
Mariner 6 - NASA Mars flyby (1969)
Mariner 7 - NASA Mars flyby (1969)
Mariner 9 - NASA Mars orbiter (1971)
Mariner 10 - NASA Mission to Venus and Mercury (1973)
Mars Climate Orbiter - NASA Orbiter Mission to Mars (1998)
Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity - NASA Rover Mission to Mars (2003)
Mars Exploration Rover Spirit - NASA Rover Mission to Mars (2003)
Mars Express - ESA Mars Orbiter and Lander (2003)
Mars Global Surveyor - NASA Global Orbiter Mission to Mars (1996)
Mars Observer - NASA Mission to Mars (1992)
2001 Mars Odyssey - NASA Orbiter Mission to Mars (2001)
Mars Pathfinder - NASA Environmental Survey Mission to Mars (1996)
Mars Polar Lander - NASA Lander Mission to Mars (1999)
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter - NASA Orbiter Mission to Mars (2005)
Mars Science Laboratory - NASA Rover Mission to Mars (2011)
Mars 96 - Russian Orbiter and Lander Mission to Mars (1996)
MESSENGER - NASA Orbiter to Mercury (2004)
NEAR - NASA Rendezvous Mission to Near-Earth Asteroid (1996)
New Horizons - NASA Pluto Kuiper Belt Flyby (2006)
Nozomi (Planet-B) - ISAS (Japan) Orbiter Mission to Mars (1998)
Phobos - Soviet Missions to Mars (1988)
Pioneer Venus - NASA Orbiter/Probes to Venus (1978)
Pioneer 10 - NASA Jupiter flyby (1972)
Pioneer 11 - NASA Jupiter flyby (1973)
Ranger - NASA Lunar Impact Missions (1964 - 1965)
Rosetta - ESA Rendezvous Mission to Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko (2004)
Sakigake - Japanese ISAS mission to Comet Halley (1985)
SMART 1 - ESA Orbiter to the Moon (2003)
Stardust - NASA Coma Sample Return Mission to Comet P/Wild 2 (1999)
Suisei - Japanese ISAS mission to Comet Halley (1985)
Surveyor - NASA Lunar Lander Missions (1966 - 1968)
Ulysses - NASA/ESA Mission to study the solar wind via Jupiter (1990)
Vega 1 - Soviet mission to Venus and Comet Halley (1984)
Vega 2 - Soviet mission to Venus and Comet Halley (1984)
Venera - Soviet Missions to Venus (1967 - 1983)
Venus Express - ESA Orbiter to Venus (2005)
Viking - NASA Orbiters/Landers to Mars (1975)
Voyager - NASA Missions to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and beyond (1977)
Zond - Soviet Lunar Missions (1965 - 1970)

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December 29, 2015, 07:43:18 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining

You'd have to be a complete moron to not understand why space travel is important, we're running out of resources on earth and there's an absolute abundance of raw materials up in space just waiting to be collected, all we need to do is figure out how to get there and back efficiently and we'll not only be rich but it will benefit mankind as we won't have to worry about consuming any rare materials anymore.

By the way, there's plenty more about this on the web dating back quite far, one asteroid spotted by NASA was estimated to have almost 1 trillion dollars worth of precious metals inside it, this is partly why there are private companies like SpaceX making a move to build rockets now and why having a re-usable rocket that's a lot cheaper than all these expensive government space programs is so important. You also have water on the moon being found and ice in asteroids etc. which means that you could sustain life out there if you had to long term.
And what are we gonna do with those precious materials? Pawn them? And then what are the buyers going to do with the materials after they've bought it from the owner? Pawn it again? These materials need to be used for something useful to mankind or they're just sitting around doing nothing. That's why I laughed in my girlfriend's face when she said she wanted me to buy her a diamond ring as an engagement ring. It's not happening. It's pointless and useless and I could just buy her a swavorski ring and lie and say it's a diamond. She wouldn't know the difference.
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December 29, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
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I need to know what the point of spending thousands of US dollars on space trips is meant for. I don't know what we've accomplished and found beneficial to society and the overall growth of human living by having money and such being tossed for the government to send random men up into space. I don't understand why space travel is so necessary. Please tell me how the moon launchings weren't fake, or needed for the human race.
The point is research, without research we would still be living in the dark ages. There are uses beyond "putting guy in space",  satellite network provides you with GPS, tv.  If you are wondering about taxes you might as well wonder whats the point of spending thousands of US dollars on mass surveillance  Roll Eyes
Research is necessary but only when there's a point. I have yet to be given one beneficial thing society got out of these launchings. Please tell me what we got out them.
If you knew the results of research before you were to do it, the research itself wouldn't be necessary.  The point of research is to learn something knew about the world. You may learn new things about the planet or the universe. The problem is most of the research papers are hidden by institutions and copyright laws. You can always question if a certain research needs funding.

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December 29, 2015, 08:08:38 PM
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I need to know what the point of spending thousands of US dollars on space trips is meant for. I don't know what we've accomplished and found beneficial to society and the overall growth of human living by having money and such being tossed for the government to send random men up into space. I don't understand why space travel is so necessary. Please tell me how the moon launchings weren't fake, or needed for the human race.
The point is research, without research we would still be living in the dark ages. There are uses beyond "putting guy in space",  satellite network provides you with GPS, tv.  If you are wondering about taxes you might as well wonder whats the point of spending thousands of US dollars on mass surveillance  Roll Eyes
Research is necessary but only when there's a point. I have yet to be given one beneficial thing society got out of these launchings. Please tell me what we got out them.
If you knew the results of research before you were to do it, the research itself wouldn't be necessary.  The point of research is to learn something knew about the world. You may learn new things about the planet or the universe. The problem is most of the research papers are hidden by institutions and copyright laws. You can always question if a certain research needs funding.
When man created the wheel, there was a needed point. He thought he needed to find a way to transport things...
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December 29, 2015, 08:16:28 PM
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I need to know what the point of spending thousands of US dollars on space trips is meant for. I don't know what we've accomplished and found beneficial to society and the overall growth of human living by having money and such being tossed for the government to send random men up into space. I don't understand why space travel is so necessary. Please tell me how the moon launchings weren't fake, or needed for the human race.
The point is research, without research we would still be living in the dark ages. There are uses beyond "putting guy in space",  satellite network provides you with GPS, tv.  If you are wondering about taxes you might as well wonder whats the point of spending thousands of US dollars on mass surveillance  Roll Eyes
Research is necessary but only when there's a point. I have yet to be given one beneficial thing society got out of these launchings. Please tell me what we got out them.
If you knew the results of research before you were to do it, the research itself wouldn't be necessary.  The point of research is to learn something knew about the world. You may learn new things about the planet or the universe. The problem is most of the research papers are hidden by institutions and copyright laws. You can always question if a certain research needs funding.

It's not just precious metals and gold and silver isn't just used for Jewellery, it's used plenty often in electronics and dentistry too, but then again, you'd know that if you'd have done your research.
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