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December 30, 2015, 10:08:31 PM Last edit: December 31, 2015, 02:52:48 AM by TheGr33k |
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I am probably going to get a lot of disgust for this. For that I do not care.
What is the point of forcing people who don't work to live? Same goes for people that simply do not want to work but want to ride government issued services. We hard working taxpayers are forced to pay our money to the homeless that sit around wanting people to take care of them. Half of them use these services for drugs. They are dead weight and do not need to be alive. The same can be said for people who work but do not contribute anything useful or positive to society like Kim Kardashian. At least her husband runs many charitable organizations, won more than ten Grammy awards and has indeed proven himself to be a noble asset to society. I work. I contribute and I still struggle for my living while other people's livings are being handed to them. I don't know what Trump's demands are as president but if he wins, I hope he puts everyone that doesn't want to work and everyone that's not positive aid to society to sleep. They are useless to us. When people like Snooki are dead, we can rejoice.
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December 30, 2015, 10:52:02 PM |
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There is a common rule that 20% of people contributes 80% of all commonwealth. But if another 80% will be "killed" don't you think that you won't be in that "best" 20% ?
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Dear Diary,
His threads have hit new, unspeakable lows; like the angry ramblings of a retarded monster. I find myself wondering: should I say something?
Also, Jimmy was so hot today. I totally want to do him.
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Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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December 31, 2015, 12:10:13 AM |
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I am probably going to get a lot of disgust for this. For that I do not care.
What is the point of forcing mentally ill, physically ill, or handicapped people to live? What is the point of that at all? Same goes for people that simply do not want to work but want to ride government issued services. We hard working taxpayers are forced to pay our money to the homeless that sit around wanting people to take care of them. Half of them use these services for drugs. They are dead weight and do not need to be alive. The same can be said for people who work but do not contribute anything useful or positive to society like Kim Kardashian. At least her husband runs many charitable organizations, won more than ten Grammy awards and has indeed proven himself to be a noble asset to society. I work. I contribute and I still struggle for my living while other people's livings are being handed to them. I don't know what Trump's demands are as president but if he wins, I hope he puts everyone that doesn't want to work and everyone that's not positive aid to society to sleep. They are useless to us. When people like Snooki are dead, we can rejoice.
You're right. Those views are disgusting. But shared by many people unfortunately. Would you have killed the child Helen Keller because she was handicapped for example? Was she useless? She was a socialist so maybe many of you would say yes. Despite all her work. Mentally or physically ill people aren't useless. They are people. They have families. Many can be productive in the right conditions. And illness can happen to anyone. Rich or poor. But the poor don't have the money for those conditions. And what if instead of blaming the poor and homeless for using social services you blamed the rich for hoarding all the wealth they can get? And bribing politicians so they can evade more taxes and get richer at the expense of the rest. What was it? The top 20 wealthiest people in america have the same wealth as the bottom 50% of americans? And getting worse each year. And the tendency is the same in many countries. Do you think that creates conditions for a stable society? For people to have fair access to education and be productive in their lives?
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December 31, 2015, 02:48:35 AM |
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I am probably going to get a lot of disgust for this. For that I do not care.
What is the point of forcing mentally ill, physically ill, or handicapped people to live? What is the point of that at all? Same goes for people that simply do not want to work but want to ride government issued services. We hard working taxpayers are forced to pay our money to the homeless that sit around wanting people to take care of them. Half of them use these services for drugs. They are dead weight and do not need to be alive. The same can be said for people who work but do not contribute anything useful or positive to society like Kim Kardashian. At least her husband runs many charitable organizations, won more than ten Grammy awards and has indeed proven himself to be a noble asset to society. I work. I contribute and I still struggle for my living while other people's livings are being handed to them. I don't know what Trump's demands are as president but if he wins, I hope he puts everyone that doesn't want to work and everyone that's not positive aid to society to sleep. They are useless to us. When people like Snooki are dead, we can rejoice.
You're right. Those views are disgusting. But shared by many people unfortunately. Would you have killed the child Helen Keller because she was handicapped for example? Was she useless? She was a socialist so maybe many of you would say yes. Despite all her work. Mentally or physically ill people aren't useless. They are people. They have families. Many can be productive in the right conditions. And illness can happen to anyone. Rich or poor. But the poor don't have the money for those conditions. And what if instead of blaming the poor and homeless for using social services you blamed the rich for hoarding all the wealth they can get? And bribing politicians so they can evade more taxes and get richer at the expense of the rest. What was it? The top 20 wealthiest people in america have the same wealth as the bottom 50% of americans? And getting worse each year. And the tendency is the same in many countries. Do you think that creates conditions for a stable society? For people to have fair access to education and be productive in their lives? Fine. Let me reword myself... If you don't contribute positively to society, you should die.
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December 31, 2015, 03:31:30 AM |
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What if... You put everyone into space launching programs. Some will build the rockets and the others get into them. That way you solve 2 thread problems at once. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 31, 2015, 03:44:20 AM |
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What if... You put everyone into space launching programs. Some will build the rockets and the others get into them. That way you solve 2 thread problems at once. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) No. Not at all.
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December 31, 2015, 04:16:35 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"?
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December 31, 2015, 04:17:26 AM |
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Well, by now just about everything is a taxpayer-funded "right". I´m sure you have noticed that din. Total deadbeats must have their rights.
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December 31, 2015, 04:17:46 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB.
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December 31, 2015, 04:29:19 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed.
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December 31, 2015, 04:33:50 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed. Doing WHAT?
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December 31, 2015, 04:42:42 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed. Doing WHAT? Being TV celebrities. "Acting" and what not. That's why I asked how do you determine who is "contributing". You and I might agree that people like Kim and Snooki contribute nothing of value to society, but what right do you have to place lives and livelihoods on the line based on how you feel? Part of living in a developed country is not having homeless people starving to death outside Walmart. Do you really not believe in society supporting the homeless?
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December 31, 2015, 04:44:20 AM |
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A lot of people however doesnt have the opportunity to work... I think you're being cruel to those people here ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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December 31, 2015, 04:46:40 AM |
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A lot of people however doesnt have the opportunity to work... I think you're being cruel to those people here ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) How do they not have the opportunity to work? Tell me please. Anyone can go out and get a job. Even if it's a minimum wage job, it's a job and you will be respected for contributing to society in a way that we need you to.
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December 31, 2015, 04:49:26 AM Last edit: December 31, 2015, 05:00:21 AM by TheGr33k |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed. Doing WHAT? Being TV celebrities. "Acting" and what not. That's why I asked how do you determine who is "contributing". You and I might agree that people like Kim and Snooki contribute nothing of value to society, but what right do you have to place lives and livelihoods on the line based on how you feel? Part of living in a developed country is not having homeless people starving to death outside Walmart. Do you really not believe in society supporting the homeless? I believe in the homeless supporting themselves. They need to get off the ground, suck it up and get a job to take care of themselves. People that don't even know the homeless personally shouldn't be working harder than the homeless are to fix their own problems. And if it's a situation where people just don't wanna hire somebody even though they comply with the minimum requirements, you can sue. I'm sure Trump will agree. Blessed be his name. Also, those two ladies do not contribute anything necessary. They're dead weight. If they died, nobody important would care. Trump certainly wouldn't. The only people that'd care would be the Instagram girls that copy the kardashians' every single move.
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December 31, 2015, 04:58:47 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed. Doing WHAT? Being TV celebrities. "Acting" and what not. That's why I asked how do you determine who is "contributing". You and I might agree that people like Kim and Snooki contribute nothing of value to society, but what right do you have to place lives and livelihoods on the line based on how you feel? Part of living in a developed country is not having homeless people starving to death outside Walmart. Do you really not believe in society supporting the homeless? I believe in the homeless supporting themselves. They need to get off the ground, suck it up and get a job to take care of themselves. People that don't even know the homeless personally shouldn't be working harder than the homeless are to fix their own problems. And if it's a sitiation where people just don't wanna hire somebody even though they comply with the minimum requirements, you can sue. I'm sure Trump will agree. Blessed be his name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesisI get the impression you are young. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/traumatic-brain-injury-homelessness_n_5227637.htmlMany homeless people have traumatic brain injuries. In addition many have preexisting mental illnesses. They can't suck it up and just get jobs. They can't have their daddy give them a "A Small Loan of a Million Dollars”. You foolishly believe that everyone is in the situation they are in because they deserve it. It's an enticing position to hold. It's fun to be able to yell about how everyone just needs to work harder and suck up everything that comes their way. But it is a viewpoint that conflicts with reality. http://www.veteransinc.org/about-us/statistics/"Approx. 33% of homeless males in the U.S. are veterans." You tell me. Are these veterans just lazy bums? Do you want them to die off because they no longer contribute?
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December 31, 2015, 05:05:39 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed. Doing WHAT? Being TV celebrities. "Acting" and what not. That's why I asked how do you determine who is "contributing". You and I might agree that people like Kim and Snooki contribute nothing of value to society, but what right do you have to place lives and livelihoods on the line based on how you feel? Part of living in a developed country is not having homeless people starving to death outside Walmart. Do you really not believe in society supporting the homeless? I believe in the homeless supporting themselves. They need to get off the ground, suck it up and get a job to take care of themselves. People that don't even know the homeless personally shouldn't be working harder than the homeless are to fix their own problems. And if it's a sitiation where people just don't wanna hire somebody even though they comply with the minimum requirements, you can sue. I'm sure Trump will agree. Blessed be his name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesisI get the impression you are young. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/traumatic-brain-injury-homelessness_n_5227637.htmlMany homeless people have traumatic brain injuries. In addition many have preexisting mental illnesses. They can't suck it up and just get jobs. They can't have their daddy give them a "A Small Loan of a Million Dollars”. You foolishly believe that everyone is in the situation they are in because they deserve it. It's an enticing position to hold. It's fun to be able to yell about how everyone just needs to work harder and suck up everything that comes their way. But it is a viewpoint that conflicts with reality. http://www.veteransinc.org/about-us/statistics/"Approx. 33% of homeless males in the U.S. are veterans." You tell me. Are these veterans just lazy bums? Do you want them to die off because they no longer contribute? Well, they use to be needed. Now they are not. Nothing lasts forever. We have no use for them anymore so they should be allowed to go to a hospital, and be gently and painlessly put to sleep. I see nothing wrong with that. To be honest, most homeless people probably wish they were dead because roaming the streets with no where to really go, digging in the trash cans for food and sleeping under benches is a whole lot more degrading than accepting the fact that you simply cannot meet the minimum requirements for any job anymore and should voluntarily check into a hospital to be euthanized. Now if only hospitals would allow that.
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed. Doing WHAT? Being TV celebrities. "Acting" and what not. That's why I asked how do you determine who is "contributing". You and I might agree that people like Kim and Snooki contribute nothing of value to society, but what right do you have to place lives and livelihoods on the line based on how you feel? Part of living in a developed country is not having homeless people starving to death outside Walmart. Do you really not believe in society supporting the homeless? I believe in the homeless supporting themselves. They need to get off the ground, suck it up and get a job to take care of themselves. People that don't even know the homeless personally shouldn't be working harder than the homeless are to fix their own problems. And if it's a sitiation where people just don't wanna hire somebody even though they comply with the minimum requirements, you can sue. I'm sure Trump will agree. Blessed be his name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesisI get the impression you are young. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/traumatic-brain-injury-homelessness_n_5227637.htmlMany homeless people have traumatic brain injuries. In addition many have preexisting mental illnesses. They can't suck it up and just get jobs. They can't have their daddy give them a "A Small Loan of a Million Dollars?. You foolishly believe that everyone is in the situation they are in because they deserve it. It's an enticing position to hold. It's fun to be able to yell about how everyone just needs to work harder and suck up everything that comes their way. But it is a viewpoint that conflicts with reality. http://www.veteransinc.org/about-us/statistics/"Approx. 33% of homeless males in the U.S. are veterans." You tell me. Are these veterans just lazy bums? Do you want them to die off because they no longer contribute? Well, they use to be needed. Now they are not. We have no ue for them anymore so they should be allowed to go to a hospital, and be gently and painlessly put to sleep. I see nothing wrong with that. To be honest, most homeless people probably wish they were dead because roaming the streets with no where to really go, digging in the trash cans for food and sleeping under benches is a whole lot more degrading than accepting the fact that you simply cannot meet the minimum requirements for any job anymore and should voluntarily check into a hospital to be euthanized. Now if only hospitals would allow that. "We have no use for them anymore so kill them" Literally Hitler. We clearly hold different moral standards so this discussion is pointless. Guess the elderly should all be put down too then. Sorry Grandma. Also, no one except the terminally ill and small number of suicidal are going to voluntarily check in to be killed. Go ask a homeless person if they want to be murdered and I'm guessing the vast majority will give an emphatic no.
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December 31, 2015, 05:14:48 AM |
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![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) And how exactly would we determine who is "contributing"? By finding out who has a JOB. Snooki and Kim Kardashian are both employed. Doing WHAT? Being TV celebrities. "Acting" and what not. That's why I asked how do you determine who is "contributing". You and I might agree that people like Kim and Snooki contribute nothing of value to society, but what right do you have to place lives and livelihoods on the line based on how you feel? Part of living in a developed country is not having homeless people starving to death outside Walmart. Do you really not believe in society supporting the homeless? I believe in the homeless supporting themselves. They need to get off the ground, suck it up and get a job to take care of themselves. People that don't even know the homeless personally shouldn't be working harder than the homeless are to fix their own problems. And if it's a sitiation where people just don't wanna hire somebody even though they comply with the minimum requirements, you can sue. I'm sure Trump will agree. Blessed be his name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesisI get the impression you are young. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/traumatic-brain-injury-homelessness_n_5227637.htmlMany homeless people have traumatic brain injuries. In addition many have preexisting mental illnesses. They can't suck it up and just get jobs. They can't have their daddy give them a "A Small Loan of a Million Dollars?. You foolishly believe that everyone is in the situation they are in because they deserve it. It's an enticing position to hold. It's fun to be able to yell about how everyone just needs to work harder and suck up everything that comes their way. But it is a viewpoint that conflicts with reality. http://www.veteransinc.org/about-us/statistics/"Approx. 33% of homeless males in the U.S. are veterans." You tell me. Are these veterans just lazy bums? Do you want them to die off because they no longer contribute? Well, they use to be needed. Now they are not. We have no ue for them anymore so they should be allowed to go to a hospital, and be gently and painlessly put to sleep. I see nothing wrong with that. To be honest, most homeless people probably wish they were dead because roaming the streets with no where to really go, digging in the trash cans for food and sleeping under benches is a whole lot more degrading than accepting the fact that you simply cannot meet the minimum requirements for any job anymore and should voluntarily check into a hospital to be euthanized. Now if only hospitals would allow that. "We have no use for them anymore so kill them" Literally Hitler. We clearly hold different moral standards so this discussion is pointless. Guess the elderly should all be put down too then. Sorry Grandma. Also, no one except the terminally ill and small number of suicidal are going to voluntarily check in to be killed. Go ask a homeless person if they want to be murdered and I'm guessing the vast majority will give an emphatic no. ...Except the difference between Hitler and I is I grew up in a loving family, and don't want people to suffer.
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