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January 01, 2016, 02:47:42 AM
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I made a post saying I want to have a currency exchange, it went smoothly. But all of a sudden I get negative trust from this guy?

And not just to me, but multiple users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138471

He has given 10 innocent people (to my understanding) neg trust.

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January 01, 2016, 02:54:49 AM
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Hmm, that's interesting because what I see is that you're otherwise trusted.

However, Spoetnik is a retarded fucking troll and you should weigh his feedback as you would with any other retarded fucking troll, which is with absolutely no credibility whatsoever.  And that's being overly generous.  If it means anything to you, by looking at your feedback I would still do business with you.  Spoetnik is the devil incarnate and also has food in his mustache.

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January 01, 2016, 02:55:34 AM
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I made a post saying I want to have a currency exchange, it went smoothly. But all of a sudden I get negative trust from this guy?

And not just to me, but multiple users.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138471

He has given 10 innocent people (to my understanding) neg trust.

same here goes to mine

proof here:



He said Paypal + Crypto  = negative trust

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1310349.0

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January 01, 2016, 04:55:30 AM
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What your doing is wrong.. Paypal forbids the use of ANY type of digital currency transactions with their service.
Regardless what side you are involved in.

This is not new information guys.
People who do deals with Paypal are not trust worthy as far as i am concerned.

I have tried for YEARS to plead with you all but you simply ignore me and keep doing it.
So i think it's time to start taking stronger action and maybe you all will learn.

The main guy i negged was caught.. more than once (he admitted it)
Those of you dealing with him are doing deals with a known "deceitful" user.
I also am suspicious that some of those accounts he has left feedback for are dummy accounts of his
..a common practice around here. (Trust farming)
Look at the neg's i left.. They are $5 or $10 dollars in Bitcoin via Paypal.

What does it take to get you guys to stop ? ..answer me that ?

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January 01, 2016, 11:30:55 AM
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What your doing is wrong.. Paypal forbids the use of ANY type of digital currency transactions with their service.
Regardless what side you are involved in.

This is not new information guys.
People who do deals with Paypal are not trust worthy as far as i am concerned.

I have tried for YEARS to plead with you all but you simply ignore me and keep doing it.
So i think it's time to start taking stronger action and maybe you all will learn.

The main guy i negged was caught.. more than once (he admitted it)
Those of you dealing with him are doing deals with a known "deceitful" user.
I also am suspicious that some of those accounts he has left feedback for are dummy accounts of his
..a common practice around here. (Trust farming)
Look at the neg's i left.. They are $5 or $10 dollars in Bitcoin via Paypal.

What does it take to get you guys to stop ? ..answer me that ?

Simply a post like this? Not spamming negative trust. But it's done. You are known is the big fucking troll.

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January 01, 2016, 11:42:56 AM
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Ignore the obvious troll. I might actually consider reading reading his posts if he wrote it better(writing style), and changed his "obvious troll" writing style.
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January 01, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
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I agree that Spoetnik is a racist welfare idiot troll.  But to be fair - that was last year.  Hopefully he turns over a new leaf in 2016.  Smiley

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January 01, 2016, 03:22:08 PM
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I agree that Spoetnik is a racist welfare idiot troll.  But to be fair - that was last year.  Hopefully he turns over a new leaf in 2016.  Smiley

If he wants to, he can start by removing my negative trust along with the only 9-10 guys.

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January 01, 2016, 03:23:09 PM
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I agree that Spoetnik is a racist welfare idiot troll.  But to be fair - that was last year.  Hopefully he turns over a new leaf in 2016.  Smiley

If he wants to, he can start by removing my negative trust along with the only 9-10 guys.

To the default user, you show up as a nice green +13.  His trust is irrelevant - no different than any other untrusted user.  Even less trusted as he is overall considered an idiot.

So i think it's time to start taking stronger action and maybe you all will learn.

Don't be worried - he is all talk and no action.  He hides behind the keyboard on his reservation.

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January 01, 2016, 06:34:14 PM
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I agree that Spoetnik is a racist welfare idiot troll.  But to be fair - that was last year.  Hopefully he turns over a new leaf in 2016.  Smiley

Asshole i warned you not fuck me with.

You can have your staff buddy suck your cock all you want i don't care.

You are a lying mouthy cocky smug Troll around here immune to the rules
If i did half the shit you have done to me i would have been banned on the spot.

And you have a lot of nerve because there is web sites showing your old coworkers
filing claims on the web saying you took advantage of underage girls.

You staff friends here deleted a comment of mine today where i defended myself from your trolling attacks.
Running around cleaning your Trolling posts mess up..

VOD i am stunned you are not banned.. i have no idea how you are getting away with this Trolling game.
You wait a while then roar right back into it and again and again.. then blame me for ALL of it.
EVEN when i have tried endlessly to drop it.. you keep sneaking around the forum fucking with me.
Big mistake fat redneck.  Cheesy

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January 01, 2016, 06:39:35 PM
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I agree that Spoetnik is a racist welfare idiot troll.  But to be fair - that was last year.  Hopefully he turns over a new leaf in 2016.  Smiley

If he wants to, he can start by removing my negative trust along with the only 9-10 guys.

If it's removed i will put it back on..

I told you if you agree to quit doing it i will remove the rating.
You made your choice.

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January 01, 2016, 07:41:09 PM
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Let's make sure this is clear.

@Equinoxx
I told you if you agree to stop using Paypal with Crypto coins i will remove the negative rating.
You chose to call me a Troll and mouth me off and got some of my fans to join in on the getting mouthy routine.
No surprise they are ALWAYS waiting around to dive on me..

Why you ?
About 9 of you guys roughly have all made 5 dollar trades with Paypal with 1 guy.
That guy is pretty much a scammer.
And all those new accounts making $5 Paypal deals looks exactly like Trust account farming.

The main guy is caught red handed knowingly breaking the Paypal Terms Of Service.
he demanded i help him cover his tracks and admitted to being caught by Paypal multiple times.
He keeps saying i don't care about the money and all indications to point to him continuing his business here.

This scammer douche has created a BUSINESS here buying & selling Bitcoin with Paypal.
What is he going to do when he has run out of money after getting caught too many times ?
YOU GUYS out there are going to get ripped off ..and possibly have yourself investigated also.

You guys that worked with the scammer (if your are real people) doing $5 deals etc should know better.
It's up to you guys to know you are working with a guy who is breaking rules.
You can play dumb but we all know using Paypal with crypto is not allowed.

If you guys do not want to go on the record saying you will stop doing it then i will neg rate you.

It seems the only way to get your attention.
Otherwise all you guys keep doing it leading more potential users into a trap.

I am not trolling on fuck all..
I am looking out for new users out there that come along and see a fabricated little web of deceit
where 1 guy decided to make a Bitcointalk Forum Business with Paypal (as he states in his Avatar Text)
You guys are just mad that i am breaking up your little game.
I offered to remove the feedback if you agree to stop breaking Paypal's TOS.
That is too much to ask ?

The reply i got was NO i will keep breaking the TOS and Spoetnik is a Troll.
What is going on here ?
Some of you are trying hard to keep this "Paypal Forum Business" going that is all.
It's a web of users fake & real created by a user WHO KNOWS he is breaking the TOS.
And all those $5 deals by noob accounts make it look to any new users coming along that he has built up some trust.
How are new people that come here suppose to know that those $5 deals are fishy ?
How are new users that come here suppose to know the guy behind it all has been caught
and had multiple Paypal accounts seized and investigated ?
How are they suppose to know he demanded i remove traces of him admitting it publicly ?

That guys are luring people into a trap.. AND YOU GUYS ARE HELPING HIM !
HE IS FULLY AWARE that what he is doing is wrong.
And the more he keeps doing it the more likely anyone that does business with him is going to get ripped off.
because he will probably run out of money if he keeps getting his Paypal funds seized.
Knowing you ARE breaking the Paypal TOS is deserving of negative Trust.

I left a neg rating on a handful of guys all tied to that 1 scammer.
I many times now offered to remove my negative rating.. *if*
you guys agree to quit doing it.
I offered that in case by some rare chance that you guys did not know what you were doing is wrong.
Play dumb.. say you didn't know then state you won't break Paypal TOS anymore and i will remove the negative rating.
Or
Come here and call me a Troll.. and keep doing it (after you have been warned)

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January 01, 2016, 08:47:18 PM
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Nonsense essay

Stop crying, don't troll the community. I am not fucking working with 'This scammer douche has created a BUSINESS here buying & selling Bitcoin with Paypal.' I AM NOT FUCKING WORKING WITH HIM.
I am not going to feed you anymore. You are known as a troll according to multiple people I dealt with in the past 2 days.


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January 01, 2016, 09:20:45 PM
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Nonsense essay

Stop crying, don't troll the community. I am not fucking working with 'This scammer douche has created a BUSINESS here buying & selling Bitcoin with Paypal.' I AM NOT FUCKING WORKING WITH HIM.
I am not going to feed you anymore. You are known as a troll according to multiple people I dealt with in the past 2 days.


I would suggest you use the ignore button like I've done with Mr. Spoetnik but that won't help your feedback.  And is Spoetnik absolutely sure that Paypal's current policy is to shun cryptocurrency?  I mean you can buy BTC on Ebay with Paypal for Chrissakes.

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January 01, 2016, 10:19:45 PM
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Equinoxx go fuck yourself enjoy your negative rating.

The other handful of guys can PM me to remove the negative rating.. if they state they won't break the Paypal TOS anymore.

This one user and his list of $5 dollar buyers got my side of the story.
I will not keep checking this over & over so PM me if you need to..

This was the guy that was running the Paypal + Bitcoin Forum business here.
Note: He went and deleted every comment he made on this topic and demanded i remove my quote.
And i did try hard to help this prick and he never did say thank you either !
Re: PayPal account limitation help

This guy's Profile link = sardasa

Look at his Avatar Text below and his SIG link.. Seems more of these guys need some negative ratings *maybe ?

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Name:    sardasa
Posts:    403
Activity:    42
Position:    Jr. Member
Date Registered:    November 28, 2015, 06:15:55 AM
Last Active:    Today at 02:47:58 PM
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Local Time:    January 01, 2016, 11:14:10 PM
Trust:    -2: -1 / +0
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January 01, 2016, 10:56:45 PM
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Another pointless essay

Enjoy my negative trust?? Sure bro. Enjoy yours.


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Trolling, Lies, Trust Abuse, Real piece of garbage, has made unfounded criminal allegations against me, accused me of using 70 btc of stakeminer's customer's funds to arb on a site that doesn't even have $5 in daily volume, real dumbass.
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A Troll with a paranoid-messiah complex that lacks the long term memory capacities for in depth debate or discussion.
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Trust abuse
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Trolls, has alts, spreads fud to make his coin famous.
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TROLL
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Abusing trust. Pretty much anything this user says is garbage and utter nonsense with an agenda behind it. Beware trading with this user or taking anything they say as fact. Do your own research.

Okay before you continue to say ANYTHING about me, please paste a quote of PayPal's TOS. Thank you.

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January 02, 2016, 12:02:56 AM
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Asshole i warned you not fuck me with.

Then put me on ignore, pedophile.

You think you're so safe downloading your child porn on your reservation, and maybe right now you are.  But there will come a time when your type will no longer protected by your treaty, and you'll be ass raped daily in prison for the rest of your life.   Undecided
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IN THE MEANTIME - you said you're coming for me, so I hope you don't mind if I spend my "last days" exposing you?  Thanks bud, and happy new year.

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January 02, 2016, 01:30:35 AM
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Asshole i warned you not fuck me with.

Then put me on ignore, pedophile.

You think you're so safe downloading your child porn on your reservation, and maybe right now you are.  But there will come a time when your type will no longer protected by your treaty, and you'll be ass raped daily in prison for the rest of your life.   Undecided
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IN THE MEANTIME - you said you're coming for me, so I hope you don't mind if I spend my "last days" exposing you?  Thanks bud, and happy new year.

You are the pedophile says your coworkers online (Google it people Martin Lawrence Alberta)

I don't need to ignore anyone but you will regret Trolling on me VOD..
Maybe not know but in a 10 years when i am still not done with you LOL
By the way i still havn't started with you yet.. but i have all the time in the world..
I'm on welfare on an Indian Reserve after all Wink

and expose away i have nothing to hide.
What are you going to do post another made up quote linked to some random comment i made ?
You have gone to new lows here.. i never seen 1 guy pull that stunt here before.

Hey VOD did you have anything at all to say about the topic here ?
Or is this just another jump on and bash me with some other douche off topic Troll game again ?
You keep doing this.. someone says something bad about me and you jump in as a little tag along.
Like in the Altcoin section recently on a Monero topic where you went on and on with racist Trolling.
And once again you had nothing at all to say about that actual topic.. Monero.
Pattern ? Yup big mouth lots of Trolling with lies.
how are you not banned ?
Why is it many of us would be banned for what you do but you are not ?
I know why..

I got a comment deleted where i defend myself from your pedophile accusations. (from a couple weeks ago)
And i had my response deleted by STAFF today.
So the way i see it Staff is sanctioning your trolling and letting you do it.
Then running around here covering it up afterwards.

Let me know how that works out for ya LOL

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January 02, 2016, 01:35:44 AM
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Another pointless essay

Enjoy my negative trust?? Sure bro. Enjoy yours.


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Trolling, Lies, Trust Abuse, Real piece of garbage, has made unfounded criminal allegations against me, accused me of using 70 btc of stakeminer's customer's funds to arb on a site that doesn't even have $5 in daily volume, real dumbass.
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A Troll with a paranoid-messiah complex that lacks the long term memory capacities for in depth debate or discussion.
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Trust abuse
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Trolls, has alts, spreads fud to make his coin famous.
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Abusing trust. Pretty much anything this user says is garbage and utter nonsense with an agenda behind it. Beware trading with this user or taking anything they say as fact. Do your own research.

Okay before you continue to say ANYTHING about me, please paste a quote of PayPal's TOS. Thank you.

I don't need to.. you should be doing that yourself or asking the guy you trade with.
Go ask that guy and come back and tell us all what he says.. AND why Paypal keeps locking his accounts.

Besides are you retarded ?
You want to come on here and run your mouth yet you don't know how to use Google ?

Enjoy your negative rating asshole  Grin

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January 02, 2016, 01:50:18 AM
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Ladies, can we please keep this civil? Cheesy

This thread has taken a hard turn toward retardedness and nothing good can come of it.  Has no one addressed my statement about Ebay allowing sales of cryptocurrency (not just bitcoin) with Paypal as the payment method.  Maybe they've changed their TOS?

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