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January 03, 2016, 12:17:52 PM
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I am curious about what the final amount of DASH coin will be? I found different information.

Coingecko states the final amount will be 22 million. https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/dash

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

What is right?
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January 03, 2016, 12:33:12 PM
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Different Coins is your answer Wink Dashcoin does not equal Dash
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January 03, 2016, 01:37:14 PM
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Interesting I thought they are the same. Are they related to each other? I actually mean this coin https://www.dash.org/

Different Coins is your answer Wink Dashcoin does not equal Dash
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January 03, 2016, 01:51:24 PM
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million
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January 03, 2016, 02:57:57 PM
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Okay, it is really confusing.

So, am I right?

DASH [DASH] -> total amount 22 million
Dashcoin [DSH] -> total amount 18.4 million

haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million
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January 03, 2016, 03:36:51 PM
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Okay, it is really confusing.

So, am I right?

DASH [DASH] -> total amount 22 million
Dashcoin [DSH] -> total amount 18.4 million

haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million

DASH total is near 18.9 million
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

Dashcoin total coins 18.446 Million
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.0

coin supply is stated in the first page of the coins thread.
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January 03, 2016, 07:00:15 PM
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If you are talking about Dash (from dash.org) then its the following :

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0

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January 03, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
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This may be off-topic but I think they should have stuck with the Darkcoin name.

There's too much competition with the name DASH. Google search "DASH" and you'll find KarDASHian clothing, something to do with coding, paywithdash.com that appears to be a mobile payment app, and DASH soap.

Ask someone "can i pay with Dash?" and they may think you are talking about the payment app, not the cryptocurrency.


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January 03, 2016, 09:32:19 PM
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million

Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above.

What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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January 03, 2016, 10:42:42 PM
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final amount = waaaay less than the original total supply that was advertised when Evan launched which was like 80,000,000 or so.

Yup the scam is coming out.

By reducing the supply he lied and stole from future users of Darkcoin/Dash from the original social contract that was setup by him in the first place.

So evan is a liar and a thief essentially.

Not to mention his double speak about starting a "for profit startup" then later claiming he was doing Dark/Dash as a "hobby".


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January 03, 2016, 11:36:59 PM
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final amount = waaaay less than the original total supply that was advertised when Evan launched which was like 80,000,000 or so.

Yup the scam is coming out.

By reducing the supply he lied and stole from future users of Darkcoin/Dash from the original social contract that was setup by him in the first place.

So evan is a liar and a thief essentially.

Not to mention his double speak about starting a "for profit startup" then later claiming he was doing Dark/Dash as a "hobby".



I have to say Evan is probably the scamiest guy on here right after the Larimer Gang and the Chicoms.

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January 03, 2016, 11:53:36 PM
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final amount = waaaay less than the original total supply that was advertised when Evan launched which was like 80,000,000 or so.

Yup the scam is coming out.

By reducing the supply he lied and stole from future users of Darkcoin/Dash from the original social contract that was setup by him in the first place.

So evan is a liar and a thief essentially.

Not to mention his double speak about starting a "for profit startup" then later claiming he was doing Dark/Dash as a "hobby".



What are you talking about? The network has a consensus mechanism the miners and full nodes decide what version of the software to run. Any parameters that want to be changed to give the network the best chances of long term survival must be accepted by miners and node operators so they decide what direction the coin takes.

Dash investors, miners and node operators are very happy with the results and the progress of the project and will decide what direction to take regardless of what your opinion is.
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Last edit: January 04, 2016, 12:49:30 AM by Minotaur26
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million

Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above.

What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin.

Hi Artic, I know you to be a reasonable person so let me just try to clarify something, the intention was never to shut down DSH, as you mentioned we were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests.  The idea of us wanting DSH to die is just propaganda from the forums.

The other thing you mention is about that user MyFarm that has nothing to do with the Dash project other than having invested in it at some point and is AWOL for a long time now.

Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone.

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January 04, 2016, 01:24:12 AM
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final amount = waaaay less than the original total supply that was advertised when Evan launched which was like 80,000,000 or so.

Yup the scam is coming out.

By reducing the supply he lied and stole from future users of Darkcoin/Dash from the original social contract that was setup by him in the first place.

So evan is a liar and a thief essentially.

Not to mention his double speak about starting a "for profit startup" then later claiming he was doing Dark/Dash as a "hobby".
 


What are you talking about? The network has a consensus mechanism the miners and full nodes decide what version of the software to run. Any parameters that want to be changed to give the network the best chances of long term survival must be accepted by miners and node operators so they decide what direction the coin takes.

Dash investors, miners and node operators are very happy with the results and the progress of the project and will decide what direction to take regardless of what your opinion is.





@Minotaur26

I like how you did not even address Evan's double speak where he was hiring c++ coders for a FOR-PROFIT startup then claimed it was a "Hobby". <--- A FACT, not my opinion. Get it straight.

Typical Dash shill who has tunnel vision and only addresses part of the argument.
 

To address your response, when you say Dash investors, miners and node operators are very happy with the results and the progress of the project and will decide what direction to take regardless of what your opinion is.....

Speak for yourself as I'm pretty sure some people left because of all the shady actions of Evan and CO. not to mention Vertoe left because of similar reasons.

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January 04, 2016, 01:41:30 AM
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This may be off-topic but I think they should have stuck with the Darkcoin name.



I agree.  Duffield was probably worried about getting stigmatized by Bitcoin's being used in the dark market, when it should have been embracing it in the first place.  Dash should have remained Dark and should have pushed as a better alternative for dark markets, if the coin is truly anonymous that is.  I really have no deep understanding about Dash's technical side.

All I know is 'it could be anonymous.'

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January 04, 2016, 01:49:56 AM
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million

Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above.

What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin.

Hi Artic, I know you to be a reasonable person so let me just try to clarify something, the intention was never to shut down DSH, as you mentioned we were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests.  The idea of us wanting DSH to die is just propaganda from the forums.

The other thing you mention is about that user MyFarm that has nothing to do with the Dash project other than having invested in it at some point and is AWOL for a long time now.

Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone.



what part of Evan Duffield's statement you can't understand?

"the acquired project itself will not continue"




https://dashtalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/

anyway it was an amazing display of power a decentralized crypto currency showed back then (by dashcoin). you DASH/darkcoin people failed and then try to white wash what happened.
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January 04, 2016, 02:14:02 AM
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This may be off-topic but I think they should have stuck with the Darkcoin name.

There's too much competition with the name DASH. Google search "DASH" and you'll find KarDASHian clothing, something to do with coding, paywithdash.com that appears to be a mobile payment app, and DASH soap.

Ask someone "can i pay with Dash?" and they may think you are talking about the payment app, not the cryptocurrency.



now I'm thinking, they might want to add "coin" to DASH...like DASHcoin LOL!  Grin
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January 04, 2016, 02:45:17 AM
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million

Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above.

What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin.

Hi Artic, I know you to be a reasonable person so let me just try to clarify something, the intention was never to shut down DSH, as you mentioned we were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests.  The idea of us wanting DSH to die is just propaganda from the forums.

The other thing you mention is about that user MyFarm that has nothing to do with the Dash project other than having invested in it at some point and is AWOL for a long time now.

Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone.



what part of Evan Duffield's statement you can't understand?

"the acquired project itself will not continue"




https://dashtalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/

anyway it was an amazing display of power a decentralized crypto currency showed back then (by dashcoin). you DASH/darkcoin people failed and then try to white wash what happened.

Hi Ariel, no one failed, it was important for us for Dashcoin to continue as I already explained.

You are quoting something from our own forum, you must understand it was a complicated process for us too, re brands are not easy people at the time were wondering if the Dash team was going to take care of DSH and the answer to that was no, we would not continue with that project ourselves.

Anyway I just wanted to clarify this for Artic, I am not really looking to convince you of anything.  We are happy with the results.

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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off.

well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion.

MapOfCoins states 184.460.000.000 coins http://mapofcoins.com/bytecoin/dashcoin_dsh

this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW

the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million

Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above.

What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin.

Hi Artic, I know you to be a reasonable person so let me just try to clarify something, the intention was never to shut down DSH, as you mentioned we were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests.  The idea of us wanting DSH to die is just propaganda from the forums.

The other thing you mention is about that user MyFarm that has nothing to do with the Dash project other than having invested in it at some point and is AWOL for a long time now.

Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone.



what part of Evan Duffield's statement you can't understand?

"the acquired project itself will not continue"




https://dashtalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/

anyway it was an amazing display of power a decentralized crypto currency showed back then (by dashcoin). you DASH/darkcoin people failed and then try to white wash what happened.

Hi Ariel, no one failed, it was important for us for Dashcoin to continue as I already explained.

You are quoting something from our own forum, you must understand it was a complicated process for us too, re brands are not easy people at the time were wondering if the Dash team was going to take care of DSH and the answer to that was no, we would not continue with that project ourselves.

Anyway I just wanted to clarify this for Artic, I am not really looking to convince you of anything.  We are happy with the results.



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were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests

kindly elaborate this statement...if dashcoin continue working and what if not?

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Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone.

it reached all time low during that time, it only became slightly higher when you failed to kill dashcoin and that brings confidence to DSH coin and exposure..

you wanted it dead so you can have the name all for yourselves.


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NONE of you people are in dashcoin thread until Evan back stabbed dashcoin holders, and now you are saying this? WOW! taking care my ass  Grin suddenly it became your project ... SUUUUPPERR WOW WHOOOH!!

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This may be off-topic but I think they should have stuck with the Darkcoin name.

There's too much competition with the name DASH. Google search "DASH" and you'll find KarDASHian clothing, something to do with coding, paywithdash.com that appears to be a mobile payment app, and DASH soap.

Ask someone "can i pay with Dash?" and they may think you are talking about the payment app, not the cryptocurrency.



Dash is a total failure when it comes to brand recognition even way worse than Goldcoin.
With so many companies, products, services, Diat, Dash Express Video Streaming standard, Cryptocurrency (Dashcoin), Japanese manga,   repository Morse code, unprocessed cooking ........unique brand recognition is impossible.
For Bitcoin, Darkcoin, Whatevercoin no company or product exist and its easy recognized as a cryptocurrency.
 
The Rothschild's owing Dash Commercial Finance LTD 2010 http://www.dash-finance.com/ part of https://www.rothschild.com/banking/asset_finance/

Or other  Dash financial companys
Dash Financial https://www.dashfinancial.com/ relevant http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/17/dash-financial-idUSnPnb97btQ+81+PRN20150417
Dash Jonathan Investments, http://www.dashinvestments.com/
Dash Holdings Group is a business management and investment firm http://dashholdingsgroup.com/
Dash small businesses financing  http://www.dashpointfinancial.com/
Dash Mortgage broker http://www.dashfinance.com.au/about-us/
DASH Platform https://sites.google.com/site/dashplatformhelp/new
........

almost an endless number of companies and products from the Dash Washing Powder http://dash.com to , Dash Dolls, Dash Bangladesh Houskeeping, Dash Connector , Kardashians Dash Clothing Store, to Sony's "My Dash" (Trademake) with community, http://dashif.org/about/
, Bombardier Q Series, a Cocktail-Recipe, Debian Almquist Shell (/bin/dash), Dash (Spaniel), favorit dog for queen Victoria, Dash Sportscars (bankrupt english company)   US Navy drone, Amazones Dash Button, Computer games, Dashboard, The Dash,..................... the list is near endles google it or have you been Dashed

otoh and others sold out because he realized its a go nowhere thing i would not be surprised if not the one or other legal challenge is coming for masternode owners if at some stage it is worthwhile

Oh we talked about Dash did't we.

Thank you for not sending browny points, much appreciated.

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