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January 05, 2016, 10:54:27 AM
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This Is A Very Troubling Chart

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/04/2016 18:54 -0500


The chart below, showing the total number of monthly FBI firearm background checks - a direct proxy for gun purchases in the U.S., needs no commentary.



Here is the same data, on a monthly basis to avoid the seasonal noise. No matter how one looks at it though, the 3.3 million background checks in December was a record high.



Neither of these are the "troubling chart" referenced in the title. This one shown below is, and it comes courtesy of the NYT:



The chart shows that while the soaring gun sales are the effect, the cause is simple: president Obama.

The same president who tomorrow at 11:40am will finally reveal just what, after many delays, his executive action(s) on gun control will be.

The concern is that with one more year under Obama's term, gun sales over the next 12 months are certain to surge to new all time highs as Obama's crusade to crush the second amendment slowly picks up steam in order to cement his "anti-gun" legacy, and as the population rushes to buy as many as it can before Obama makes such purchases illegal.

It's not all bad news though: gun makers could not have asked for a better president, as the following headline just confirmed:

SMITH & WESSON SEES 3Q ADJ. EPS 39C-41C, SAW 27C-29C
As of this moment Smith and Wesson is trading at an all time high.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-04/very-troubling-chart

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January 05, 2016, 11:12:45 AM
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The continues 'attacks' by the Democrats on the second amendment seems to have made a turnover in terms of what they wanted to really do. 
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January 05, 2016, 11:31:08 AM
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The continues 'attacks' by the Democrats on the second amendment seems to have made a turnover in terms of what they wanted to really do.  

Yeah well, the more they talk about controls on gun sales, the more gun sales balloon. It´s actually Market 101, which is either totally beyond the comprehension of these people or they´ve been encouraging this sales boom by intent. Either way, it has been very successful.

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January 05, 2016, 01:06:58 PM
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The continues 'attacks' by the Democrats on the second amendment seems to have made a turnover in terms of what they wanted to really do.  

Yeah well, the more they talk about controls on gun sales, the more gun sales balloon. It´s actually Market 101, which is either totally beyond the comprehension of these people or they´ve been encouraging this sales boom by intent. Either way, it has been very successful.

Now we need more ammo sales. In addition, we need common sense training among the people. We also need to realize that with increased arms there is the greater potential for mistakes and accidents.

Two other things we greatly need are:

1. When government comes after guns, they come as an armed group against individual gun owners. Gun owners need to unite in local groups to protect each other. This need isn't something that has to be practiced on a "living" basis. That is, we don't have to move in together. But we have to be ready to support and protect each other like the "militia" people protected the Bundy ranchers. Perhaps we need to form groups that are ready to go to the aid of fellow members on a moment's notice... with a phone or radio call.

2. The second thing that we need is the knowledge between legal and lawful. We have the right to anything that we want, as long as we harm no one, nor damage his property. If we harm no one, the Preamble to the Constitution says that government was formed to be a benefit. If they take our guns when we have harmed no one, they are taking our property. Stealing our property is not benefit for us. Therefore, it is something that they cannot do. Any government agent that takes our property is acting outside his authority. He is a common crook, or part of the gang of common crooks that he is working with, often known as the police, or SWAT, but known as government in general.

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January 05, 2016, 01:10:07 PM
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I do not understand why America does not control guns trading after all of these shooting accidents and crimes that happened last year. Do not thay want to keep their citizens safe ?
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January 05, 2016, 02:13:22 PM
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I do not understand why America does not control guns trading after all of these shooting accidents and crimes that happened last year. Do not thay want to keep their citizens safe ?

America IS the people. Do the people want to keep the people safe? Yes? Then how do they do it. By buying and using guns on everyone who attacks them, right?

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January 05, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
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Obama, wiping tears, makes new push to tighten gun rules

WASHINGTON, Jan 5 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Tuesday described new steps his administration will take to tighten gun rules and urged Americans to vote for candidates who do more to prevent gun violence, wiping back tears as he remembered children who died in a mass shooting.

As Obama delivered a powerful address in the White House, surrounded by family members of people killed in shootings, his voice rose to a yell as he said the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms needed to be balanced by the right to worship, gather peacefully and live their lives.

Obama has often said his toughest time in office was grappling with the December 2012 massacre of 20 children and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut.

"Every time I think about those kids, it gets me mad," Obama said, tears rolling down his cheek. ...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-wiping-tears-makes-push-175606511.html

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January 05, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
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"That changed me, that day," he said, after being introduced by Mark Barden, whose 7-year-old son was killed in the shooting. "My hope earnestly has been that it would change the country."

After that tragedy, the Democratic president failed to persuade Congress to toughen U.S. gun laws. He has blamed lawmakers for being in the thrall of the powerful National Rifle Association gun lobby group.

He said Americans need to be "just as passionate" as the NRA in changing gun laws, but acknowledged it won't happen during his final year in office.

Obama laid out executive action he is taking to require more gun sellers to get licenses and more gun buyers to undergo background checks.

Under the changes, the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will issue guidelines intended to narrow exceptions to a system that requires sellers to check with the Federal Bureau of Investigation to determine whether buyers have criminal records, are charged with crimes or have mental health conditions that would bar them from owning a gun.

Any changes to gun rules in America are fraught with political risk. The U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment gives Americans the right to have arms, a right that is fiercely defended.

The stocks of gunmakers Smith & Wesson Holding Corp and Sturm Ruger & Co Inc have climbed since the announcement. On Tuesday morning, Smith & Wesson jumped was up 10 percent to $25.58 a share and Sturm Ruger was up more than 6 percent at $65.46.

Legal challenges to the changes are expected and Republican presidential candidates have promised to reverse his order if they win the White House. But Obama, entering his eighth and last year in office, has said his measures are within his authority and consistent with the Constitution.

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January 05, 2016, 06:28:56 PM
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"That changed me, that day," he said, after being introduced by Mark Barden, whose 7-year-old son was killed in the shooting. "My hope earnestly has been that it would change the country."

After that tragedy, the Democratic president failed to persuade Congress to toughen U.S. gun laws. He has blamed lawmakers for being in the thrall of the powerful National Rifle Association gun lobby group.

He said Americans need to be "just as passionate" as the NRA in changing gun laws, but acknowledged it won't happen during his final year in office.

Obama laid out executive action he is taking to require more gun sellers to get licenses and more gun buyers to undergo background checks.

Under the changes, the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will issue guidelines intended to narrow exceptions to a system that requires sellers to check with the Federal Bureau of Investigation to determine whether buyers have criminal records, are charged with crimes or have mental health conditions that would bar them from owning a gun.

Any changes to gun rules in America are fraught with political risk. The U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment gives Americans the right to have arms, a right that is fiercely defended.

The stocks of gunmakers Smith & Wesson Holding Corp and Sturm Ruger & Co Inc have climbed since the announcement. On Tuesday morning, Smith & Wesson jumped was up 10 percent to $25.58 a share and Sturm Ruger was up more than 6 percent at $65.46.

Legal challenges to the changes are expected and Republican presidential candidates have promised to reverse his order if they win the White House. But Obama, entering his eighth and last year in office, has said his measures are within his authority and consistent with the Constitution.



EOs are as good as the next president let them fly. The rodeo clown does not understand he is not a king, but a lame duck president. No amount of fake tears and flipping the bird on live TV will change that.





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January 05, 2016, 06:36:32 PM
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I feel anyone 25 and younger will not get it...


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January 05, 2016, 08:34:26 PM
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don't ever let liberals stealing your rights i am not american or permanent resident , which i deeply regret , my dream is to become an american for the two first amendments and the freedom and history of your country, the fights of americans to gain their right ,that why i love texas and dixie in general they know the price of liberty.

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January 05, 2016, 10:29:13 PM
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I do not understand why America does not control guns trading after all of these shooting accidents and crimes that happened last year. Do not thay want to keep their citizens safe ?
Indeed, we do want to keep our citizens safe.

And we've learned -let's just say we've learned the hard way - that it's not enough to urge people to buy guns to protect themselves, their families and their communities.  That doesn't wake the sleeping giant.  The ugly wanna be scary dudes with the rags wrapped around there heads, those don't make people go out and buy guns.  They don't scare anyone.

Man, you have to start talking about taking guns away, and that works like a charm.  Buddy, let me tell you.  All of a sudden more guns get bought than the regulatorbaters could take away in ten years.

that's the way we do it... 

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January 05, 2016, 11:48:59 PM
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Josh Earnest says Congress should close gun show loophole for good, answers NRA criticism

Twitchy  by Brett Taylor 11:27 pm

Following the president’s address on gun violence and the executive actions he intends to take to curtail it, it was left to Press Secretary Josh Earnest to bat cleanup with an afternoon Twitter Q&A session.

Ready to take your questions on #StopGunViolence so send my way using #AskPressSec, let's get started! pic.twitter.com/JD3LfADAgz

— Josh Earnest (@PressSec) January 5, 2016

The White House’s Twitter Q&As are usually pretty worthless affairs, and it’s no shocker that Earnest chose to answer a question from Everytown for Gun Safety, Michael Bloomberg’s anti-gun group that worked with the administration to draft the president’s executive actions.

.@PressSec What are the top things Congress can do to keep guns out of dangerous hands? #AskPressSec

— Everytown (@Everytown) January 5, 2016

Congress? Who needs Congress when you have a pen and a phone?

@PressSec are you suggesting that we actually let the Legislative Branch of our government write the laws? #StopGunViolence #2A

— Adam Reeder (@MrAdamReeder) January 5, 2016

If Congress is going to do anything, it should close that gun show loophole once and for all.

@PressSec @WhiteHouse @Everytown Loophole?Huh?

— Daryn Thorpe (@ocredzone73) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @WhiteHouse @Everytown there is no gun show loophole, stop lying

— Jeffrey Maskrod (@j_maskrod) January 5, 2016

@PressSec How do you close something that doesn't exist? #StopGunViolence

— Torcer (@TorcerT) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @WhiteHouse There is no "gunshow loophole."

— Kevin Holamon (@kholamon) January 5, 2016

@PressSec we have any stats on injury or deaths due to Gun show loophole?

— SteveTretakis (@SteveTretakis) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @WhiteHouse No gunshow loopholes exist. Inciters of fear to rule the masses. 100% bold face liars. Elect more worthless activists

— Carl Thompson (@carlthompson427) January 5, 2016

@PressSec there is no "gunshow loophole." Licensed dealers at gun shows MUST run the requisite FBI checks. But I'm guessing you know this

— Amico di una tigre (@spacemanspiff76) January 5, 2016

@PressSec Are you really a robot programed to spit out liberal bullshit?

— trevor plemmons (@TrevorPlemmons) January 5, 2016

While he had a captive Twitter audience, Earnest wanted to respond to criticism by the NRA.

Also, wanted to take this opportunity to answer @PeterAlexander who asked for response to critical statement from @NRA. #askpresssec

— Josh Earnest (@PressSec) January 5, 2016

I'm confident families of gun violence victims didn't find @POTUS's words or actions to keep guns out of the wrong hands "condescending".

— Josh Earnest (@PressSec) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @POTUS The Benghazi families found him a lot worse than "condescending" after he lied to them about the video.

— Rep. Steven Smith (@RepStevenSmith) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @POTUS I am pretty sure the families of US Border agents kill by guns supplied by @POTUS and #AG Holder, did.

— thomas joseph (@notime61) January 5, 2016

@PressSec @POTUS And I'm sure families of those murdered by illegal aliens wonder where the tears and call to action are for their families

— Uncle BS (@bs_uncle) January 5, 2016

.@PressSec .@POTUS Making proposals that would have had ZERO impact on these tragedies is, by definition, condescending. #HeJustDoesntGetIt

— Factor One (@dafactor1) January 5, 2016

The post Josh Earnest says Congress should close gun show loophole for good, answers NRA criticism appeared first on twitchy.com.

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January 05, 2016, 11:57:52 PM
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Asking people to end gun violence is fine. Nobody wants this. But let us be clear here: nobody has the right to remove weapons from a law abiding public.
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January 06, 2016, 12:47:52 AM
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Asking people to end gun violence is fine. Nobody wants this. But let us be clear here: nobody has the right to remove weapons from a law abiding public.


Unless you are a man child president acting like a king


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Asking people to end gun violence is fine. Nobody wants this. But let us be clear here: nobody has the right to remove weapons from a law abiding public.


Unless you are a man child president acting like a king




Gun removal from a gun owner can only be done with bigger guns. Average gun owners are not violent, but those who remove guns from owners are.

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January 06, 2016, 03:50:45 AM
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Legal challenges to the changes are expected and Republican presidential candidates have promised to reverse his order if they win the White House. But Obama, entering his eighth and last year in office, has said his measures are within his authority and consistent with the Constitution.

If he says it, to find what is true you reverse what he said.
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January 06, 2016, 10:33:12 AM
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The police are killing too many black people with guns. Why can't Obama realise this?

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January 06, 2016, 10:57:31 AM
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The police are killing too many black people with guns. Why can't Obama realise this?

I don´t know what´s too few or too many and which of them are black, white or whichever color shade in between but police in the United States shoot dead about 1000 people a year. Doesn´t really seem huge in a country of 330 million people where just about everybody and their dog is armed to the teeth and that certainly goes for  criminals. I think 100-200 police offficers are killed in the line of duty per year.

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The police are killing too many black people with guns. Why can't Obama realise this?

Thats how you keep population in check
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