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[ElectricMucus]

What do you know about Customs & Legalities of these kinds of things?

It depends largely on the specifics of your country.

For me in Germany for example I could not order the Piracetam and Aniracetam they offer, due to them having RX status here. Importing that would bring me into all kinds of trouble with customs.

Similarily the Idebenone has quite limited market authorization at this time and is really still in investigational status. Importing that would bring me into even more trouble with customs.

Others like the Pyritinol I can order without any problem as it has OTC status. If I were in Austria, I couldn't as it has RX status there. The Picamilon I couldn't have ordered last year, but can now because it got a fresh market authorization as a OTC drug.

As you can see it's quite complex and you should check the local legal status of the product you want to order beforehand, because customs can get quite irate.

Wouldn't that be largely dependent on how they label it's content? If it is labelled as nutritional supplement instead of medical drug for example.

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

What do you know about Customs & Legalities of these kinds of things?

It depends largely on the specifics of your country.

For me in Germany for example I could not order the Piracetam and Aniracetam they offer, due to them having RX status here. Importing that would bring me into all kinds of trouble with customs.

Similarily the Idebenone has quite limited market authorization at this time and is really still in investigational status. Importing that would bring me into even more trouble with customs.

Others like the Pyritinol I can order without any problem as it has OTC status. If I were in Austria, I couldn't as it has RX status there. The Picamilon I couldn't have ordered last year, but can now because it got a fresh market authorization as a OTC drug.

As you can see it's quite complex and you should check the local legal status of the product you want to order beforehand, because customs can get quite irate.

Wouldn't that be largely dependent on how they label it's content? If it is labelled as nutritional supplement instead of medical drug for example.

To an extend yes but some countries won't allow something labeled as a supplement to get in because they are very restrictive and will open it. Bodycare items or personal gifts tend to have much less of an issue.

[greyhawk]

Wouldn't that be largely dependent on how they label it's content? If it is labelled as nutritional supplement instead of medical drug for example.

That kinda sorta hilariously absurd producer self-appointed distinction only exists in the US (for historical reasons related to the powerlessness of the FDA which even the restructuring/empowering after the Thalidomide scandal could not reasonably solve). The US has a peculiar arrangement where you can sell just about anything you want as a supplement and the FDA has to prove it's harmful first before it can be taken off the market. In all other civilized countries it is the other way around. Here the onus is on the producer to first display the safety of his product before he can sell it.

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

Wouldn't that be largely dependent on how they label it's content? If it is labelled as nutritional supplement instead of medical drug for example.

That kinda sorta hilariously absurd producer self-appointed distinction only exists in the US (for historical reasons related to the powerlessness of the FDA which even the restructuring/empowering after the Thalidomide scandal could not reasonably solve). The US has a peculiar arrangement where you can sell just about anything you want as a supplement and the FDA has to prove it's harmful first before it can be taken off the market. In all other civilized countries it is the other way around. Here the onus is on the producer to first display the safety of his product before he can sell it.

The US has a self regulated supplement industry in certain regards (the FDA currently regulates the quality and amount claimed on the label) which enables Americans access to many compounds that have a documented history of safety, however because most of them can not be patented there is little incentive to get them FDA approved as drugs. Many supplements are approved in other countries as drugs however with varying amount of research regarding it's safety. Some companies do sell some questionable products in terms of safety but ultimately it's up to the consumer to decide what they want and their risk.

Personally I don't want to live in a country where my options for health are limited or determined by the FDA (massive and undeniable history of corruption and abuse) rather by me and/or my doctor.

[greyhawk]

The US has a self regulated supplement industry in certain regards (the FDA currently regulates the quality and amount claimed on the label) which enables Americans access to many compounds that have a documented history of safety, however because most of them can not be patented there is little incentive to get them FDA approved as drugs. Many supplements are approved in other countries as drugs however with varying amount of research regarding it's safety. Some companies do sell some questionable products in terms of safety but ultimately it's up to the consumer to decide what they want and their risk.

Personally I don't want to live in a country where my options for health are limited or determined by the FDA (massive and undeniable history of corruption and abuse) rather by me and/or my doctor.

Yep, both ways have their drawbacks. With our way of doing it sometimes it takes waaaay too much time to get a product approved especially if there is no massive lawyer army clamoring for it. Hell, it took 10 years for Stevia rebaudiana to get approved for use as a condiment. Now that's completely and utterly absurd.

On the other hand the FDA is more concerned with governing and rewarding itself, instead of actively going out and looking out for US citizens. One only needs to look at the whole Methylhexanamine/DMAA scandal last year, where it had been clear way before the deaths happened that it's not a very bright idea to add vast amounts of pseudo-amphetamins to sports stimulants. The FDA did nothing (and legally could do nothing) until after the fact.

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

The US has a self regulated supplement industry in certain regards (the FDA currently regulates the quality and amount claimed on the label) which enables Americans access to many compounds that have a documented history of safety, however because most of them can not be patented there is little incentive to get them FDA approved as drugs. Many supplements are approved in other countries as drugs however with varying amount of research regarding it's safety. Some companies do sell some questionable products in terms of safety but ultimately it's up to the consumer to decide what they want and their risk.

Personally I don't want to live in a country where my options for health are limited or determined by the FDA (massive and undeniable history of corruption and abuse) rather by me and/or my doctor.

Yep, both ways have their drawbacks. With our way of doing it sometimes it takes waaaay too much time to get a product approved especially if there is no massive lawyer army clamoring for it. Hell, it took 10 years for Stevia rebaudiana to get approved for use as a condiment. Now that's completely and utterly absurd.

On the other hand the FDA is more concerned with governing and rewarding itself, instead of actively going out and looking out for US citizens. One only needs to look at the whole Methylhexanamine/DMAA scandal last year, where it had been clear way before the deaths happened that it's not a very bright idea to add vast amounts of pseudo-amphetamins to sports stimulants. The FDA did nothing (and legally could do nothing) until after the fact.

Yeah I was really happy to finally see Stevia approved even though it took a massive multinational company to make it happen while you could buy the herb at a health store a decade prior.

Methylhexanamine/DMAA is an excellent point of a overall bad compound on the market. But it's the demand from users that drives it's sales and usage. Not sure if banning it or even making illegal will make any impact on diehard users (people still use ephedrine but now they just buy it from Canada or behind the pharmacy in the US) but I do agree it will help save some lives especially those who have no idea what they are putting in their bodies. That's what I feel is the most important aspect to address. Self education of what you're putting in your body when it comes to food, supplements, and drugs.

Not that the FDA is overtly focused on compounds it regulates that causes deaths if it was acetaminophen would have been banned long ago. I think the FDA has alot on it's plate and tends to act more when the media gets involved than anything else.

[greyhawk]

Methylhexanamine/DMAA is an excellent point of a overall bad compound on the market. But it's the demand from users that drives it's sales and usage. Not sure if banning it or even making illegal will make any impact on diehard users (people still use ephedrine but now they just buy it from Canada or behind the pharmacy in the US) but I do agree it will help save some lives especially those who have no idea what they are putting in their bodies.

It won't make much of an impact. The industry provides and the usual suspects buy. I've had people on the weight lifting forum I moderate going completely nuts after the ban, up to behaviour very reminiscent of legit amphetamine withdrawal. Now they're all happily hopped up on that orchid extract everyone uses instead of DMAA and I eagerly await the next ban to have a hearty laugh at the ensuing forum antics.

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Why do you no longer accept Bitcoins as payment?

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

Why do you no longer accept Bitcoins as payment?

We halted them for a short time but currently accept them.

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

Currently offering 45% off select Nootropics when paying via bitcoin. (use discount code bitcoin during checkout).

Our main suggestions:

NeuroPEPT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noopept a potent form of Piracetam (the most popular nootropic in the world) for improving memory, speech, and processing speed.

Phenibut http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenibut a novel type of GABA for superior sleep, mood enhancement, and anti-stress effects.

[mnightwaffle]

yay

Would like to see Tianeptine and Adrafinil.

Edit:
Just made an order and customer service is on top of it,,, even at 12am 

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

yay

Would like to see Tianeptine and Adrafinil.

Edit:
Just made an order and customer service is on top of it,,, even at 12am  

Adrafinil we won't be carrying due to US laws. Tianeptine we will be looking into and I'll have a reply within a week.

Thanks! We have a nearly 24/7 team to keep up with you guys during these crazy bitcoin days (and nights).

[reikokuko]

Just curious, do you carry Aniracetam? And what are your prices? That stuff is hard to find and when I do find it, it's overpriced =\

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

Just curious, do you carry Aniracetam? And what are your prices? That stuff is hard to find and when I do find it, it's overpriced =\

Yes it's one of our top sellers.

http://www.cognitivenutrition.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=2

Paying with bitcoin it's $17.32 for one bottle and you save more when buying 6-12.

[reikokuko]

That is a pretty good price.  You don't do bulk powder for it do you? And still no US shipping?

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

That is a pretty good price.  You don't do bulk powder for it do you? And still no US shipping?

We special order bulk at the moment and are in the US.

[reikokuko]

How much BTC for 50g? Also, can you sell noopept in bulk powder too?

(I don't like dealing with capsules =\ There's just something about downing a potent combination of supplements and screaming "RAAAAWWWWRR" after choking down the horrible tasting stuff =P)

Also, with this noopept stuff, is that wiki suggesting that its oral bio availability is less than regular piracetam?  I mean, the bio availability of anything orally administered is going to be less.

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

How much BTC for 50g? Also, can you sell noopept in bulk powder too?

(I don't like dealing with capsules =\ There's just something about downing a potent combination of supplements and screaming "RAAAAWWWWRR" after choking down the horrible tasting stuff =P)

Also, with this noopept stuff, is that wiki suggesting that its oral bio availability is less than regular piracetam?  I mean, the bio availability of anything orally administered is going to be less.

We usually special order it in 1-25 KG but we will do a smaller bulk run early next year (Jan or Feb eta). You can empty the caps into powder that way you get a measured dosage and when you buy several bottles (45 Grams each) it's a great value for cGMP pharmaceutical grade capsules.

Noopept (TM) is very well absorbed for a peptide but I'm not aware of a direct comparison to Piracetam.

[mnightwaffle]

Received my package today - it arrived on time, 2-3 days. surprised by the extras that were thrown in, ones I've been wanting to try (thanks!). Again; fabulous support by email.

I may be re-weighing the 800mg/Aniracetam since my previous experiences suggest 500mg is almost too much. My preferred dosage is usually @ a 200-300mg, though that was with a different vendor, so I'll give it a few goes at 800 just in case ---- do note I'm def on the lower end. 800 is average and some people don't notice anything until 1000-1600 and even in rare cases 2000+mg/dose (crazy, imo)

I'll post my opinion of these nootropics once I have a good feel for each one. May take a few weeks.

[nootropicsforbitcoins]

Received my package today - it arrived on time, 2-3 days. surprised by the extras that were thrown in, ones I've been wanting to try (thanks!). Again; fabulous support by email.

I may be re-weighing the 800mg/Aniracetam since my previous experiences suggest 500mg is almost too much. My preferred dosage is usually @ a 200-300mg, though that was with a different vendor, so I'll give it a few goes at 800 just in case ---- do note I'm def on the lower end. 800 is average and some people don't notice anything until 1000-1600 and even in rare cases 2000+mg/dose (crazy, imo)

I'll post my opinion of these nootropics once I have a good feel for each one. May take a few weeks.

Your quite welcome.

Interesting. I usually find 1.5 (or more) grams to be ideal but everyone's neurochem varies.

Look forward to your feedback.