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January 29, 2013, 05:27:18 AM Last edit: January 29, 2013, 05:54:08 AM by JohnGalt |
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VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Please don't want until the last minute to vote because the exchange may not display the dates correctly, and you may be too late. Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | B.YABMC | BTC-TC | 2013-01-28 | IPO | SILVER | BTC-TC | 2013-01-28 | IPO | TABITA | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-01 | IPO | BTC-BOND | BTC-TC | 2013-02-02 | | RSM | BTC-TC | 2013-02-02 | | MOB | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-02 | | BOTMINER | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-02 | | LTCCOPPER | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-02 | | | | | | - | | | | | | | | S.BBET-PT | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-01-22 | Approved 448-0 | S.DICE-PT | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-01-22 | Approved 488-0 | CREATE | BTC-TC | 2013-01-22 | Listing was cancelled | OPCU | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-01-27 | Abstain | LTCI | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-01-27 | Approved 541-3 | GOLD | BTC-TC | 2013-01-27 | Approved 541-3 |
Ouch, managing all that sounds like a monster task. Not at all. Voting is done by motions and it completely handled by the exchange. I just put up the motions, report the results, and place the real vote. It takes a couple minutes each week (for which I get paid about $0.50 )
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JohnGalt (OP)
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January 29, 2013, 05:42:53 AM |
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Perhaps this is why basing a Bitcoin exchange with a litecoin company is a bad idea..
I would have thought redundancy is a good thing. Including redundant cryptocoins and blockchains in case the bitcoin devs go nuts and decide to destroy bitcoin somehow or the unlikely event that all the exchanges are shut down or the devs go rogue etc. No, it opens you up to more risks. Current situation: Litecoin becomes practically worthless for any reason? LTC-GLOBAL fully worthless. Bitcoin becomes practically worthless for any reason? LTC-GLOBAL ~half worthless. If BTCT was listed separately in BTC: Litecoin becomes practically worthless for any reason? Doesn't matter. Bitcoin becomes practically worthless for any reason? BCT fully worthless. The value of BTC Trading Corp (the company that runs LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TC exchanges) is independent of the currency the shares may be denominated in. Shares denominated in a worthless currency could just be changed to another currency. If I sell gold for BTC and BTC becomes worthless, is the gold then worthless? I'm not clear on your example because it is ambiguous. Let me "correct" it. First, please note that (AFAIK) roughly 50% of BTC Trading Corp's income comes from BTC-TC. Whatever the situation is: LTC becomes worthless: LTC-GLOBAL is worthless because nobody will use it. BTC-TC is unchanged. BTC Trading Corp drops 50% and relists on BTC-TC (if necessary). BTC becomes worthless: LTC-GLOBAL is unchanged. BTC-TC is worthless because nobody will use it. BTC Trading Corp drops 50% and relists on LTC-GLOBAL (if necessary).
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January 29, 2013, 08:33:23 AM |
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That the tracking of the shares and divs are paid out in LTC could be changed easily. Same way BAKEWELL moved off BTC-TC, LTC-GLOBAL could move from LTC-GLOBAL to BTC-TC. Whatever the situation is:
LTC becomes worthless: LTC-GLOBAL is worthless because nobody will use it. BTC-TC is unchanged. BTC Trading Corp drops 50% and relists on BTC-TC (if necessary). BTC becomes worthless: LTC-GLOBAL is unchanged. BTC-TC is worthless because nobody will use it. BTC Trading Corp drops 50% and relists on LTC-GLOBAL (if necessary).
This is more my take on it. We're on the two strongest crypto-currencies out there, essentially hedged against a failure in either one. What's not to like?
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So if I invest in this are the profits that the exchange makes in bitcoins converted to litecoins then paid out to shareholders (including this fund) and then converted back to BTC for you to pay out the shareholders of this fund?
If so it would be nice to get around that as the exchange makes a lot of BTC revenue.
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JohnGalt (OP)
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February 02, 2013, 05:28:46 AM |
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So if I invest in this are the profits that the exchange makes in bitcoins converted to litecoins then paid out to shareholders (including this fund) and then converted back to BTC for you to pay out the shareholders of this fund?
If so it would be nice to get around that as the exchange makes a lot of BTC revenue.
You are correct. Currently, there is no way around it, though. You could ask burnside to add the ability to pay dividends in multiple currencies, or I could ask him to pay this fund's share of the BTC income separately and directly in BTC (but I don't think he would go for either). Keep in mind that BTC-e charges only a 0.2% fee for currency conversion. I think it would be hard to justify setting up a special way to get around it.
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February 02, 2013, 05:38:48 AM |
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So if I invest in this are the profits that the exchange makes in bitcoins converted to litecoins then paid out to shareholders (including this fund) and then converted back to BTC for you to pay out the shareholders of this fund?
If so it would be nice to get around that as the exchange makes a lot of BTC revenue.
You are correct. Currently, there is no way around it, though. You could ask burnside to add the ability to pay dividends in multiple currencies, or I could ask him to pay this fund's share of the BTC income separately and directly in BTC (but I don't think he would go for either). Keep in mind that BTC-e charges only a 0.2% fee for currency conversion. I think it would be hard to justify setting up a special way to get around it. I'd be worried that I'd screw up the math, honestly. To properly pay dividends on the BTC side I'd still have to calculate in the income from the LTC side, then figure out how much to convert and which direction to convert it. Maybe after things have calmed down a bit in terms of development, etc, we can look at it again. For now I need to KISS or I'll lose my marbles.
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February 02, 2013, 06:19:42 AM Last edit: February 18, 2013, 01:57:00 AM by JohnGalt |
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Weekly Report Saturday, February 2, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 110 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1100 NAV: BTC 0.11408 (Based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 311.21 LTC) Please note that 10 LTC-GLOBAL shares were deposited in the fund in exchange for 100 shares of BTC-TRADING-PT. This did not dilute the value of the shares. For more information about depositing assets, please see the OP, or contact John Galt Asset Management. Dividend InformationWeekly dividend: BTC 0.02426 Weekly dividend (per share): BTC 0.00002205 (paid on Tuesday) Weekly Yield: 0.02% Annualized Yield: 1.04% Management FeeNormal Fee (%0.02 of assets): 6.8466 LTC Waived: 2.5835 LTC Fee Paid: 4.2631 LTC Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryDemand for LTC-GLOBAL shares continues to abate and the average price has dropped from 337.85 LTC to 311.21 LTC (-7.9%). In addition, the value of LTC relative to BTC continued to fall, and the NAV fell from BTC 0.129 to BTC 0.115 (-10.9%) as a result. Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volume is low and the bid-ask spread is very high, so the actual value of a share can vary quite a bit. A dividend of 11.11 LTC was paid by LTC-GLOBAL to the fund during the week. After subtracting the management fee of 4.26 LTC, the dividend paid to fund shareholders this week is BTC 0.02426, or BTC 0.00002205 per share, for a weekly yield of 0.02% and an annualized yield of 1.04%. This is a meager dividend, but it is much higher than the typical dividends in previous weeks. VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Please don't want until the last minute to vote because the exchange may not display the dates correctly, and you may be too late. Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | MOO.COW.MINING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-06 | IPO | LGT | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-09 | | LTC-GAMING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-09 | | PAJKA.BOND | BTC-TC | 2013-02-09 | | | | | | - | | | | | | | | B.YABMC | BTC-TC | 2013-01-28 | Abstain | SILVER | BTC-TC | 2013-01-28 | Not Approved: 528-0 | TABITA | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-01 | Abstain | BTC-BOND | BTC-TC | 2013-02-02 | Abstain | RSM | BTC-TC | 2013-02-02 | Approved: 122-6 | MOB | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-02 | Abstain | BOTMINER | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-02 | Not Approved: 676-40 | LTCCOPPER | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-02 | Not Approved: 696-20 |
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February 02, 2013, 05:10:14 PM |
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So if I invest in this are the profits that the exchange makes in bitcoins converted to litecoins then paid out to shareholders (including this fund) and then converted back to BTC for you to pay out the shareholders of this fund?
If so it would be nice to get around that as the exchange makes a lot of BTC revenue.
You are correct. Currently, there is no way around it, though. You could ask burnside to add the ability to pay dividends in multiple currencies, or I could ask him to pay this fund's share of the BTC income separately and directly in BTC (but I don't think he would go for either). Keep in mind that BTC-e charges only a 0.2% fee for currency conversion. I think it would be hard to justify setting up a special way to get around it. I'd be worried that I'd screw up the math, honestly. To properly pay dividends on the BTC side I'd still have to calculate in the income from the LTC side, then figure out how much to convert and which direction to convert it. Maybe after things have calmed down a bit in terms of development, etc, we can look at it again. For now I need to KISS or I'll lose my marbles. Burnside, do you actually go through an exchange to move the profit of BTCT from BTC to LTC, paying an exchange fee, or do you just move the numbers around accounting-wise, not having to pay the exchange fee?
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February 02, 2013, 06:21:23 PM |
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Burnside, do you actually go through an exchange to move the profit of BTCT from BTC to LTC, paying an exchange fee, or do you just move the numbers around accounting-wise, not having to pay the exchange fee?
Most of the time I already have the funds on one side or the other and will just look at the going exchange rate on BTC-e and do the math using the top offer. When I do that I don't bother with the exchange fees, or withdrawal fees, etc. Sometimes I don't and I have to exchange, which sucks because it takes a long time to move everything around.
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February 10, 2013, 05:00:49 AM Last edit: February 18, 2013, 01:57:31 AM by JohnGalt |
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Weekly Report Saturday, February 9, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 110 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1100 NAV: BTC 0.12081 (Based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 348.17 LTC) Dividend InformationWeekly dividend: BTC 0.0 (LTC-GLOBAL paid no dividends this week) Weekly dividend (per share): BTC 0.0 Weekly Yield: 0.00% Annualized Yield: 0.00% Management FeeNormal Fee (%0.02 of assets): 7.6597 LTC Waived: 7.6597 LTC Fee Paid: 0.0 LTC Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryDemand for LTC-GLOBAL shares picked up a little and the average price has rose from 311.21 LTC to 347.17 LTC (+12%). In contrast, the value of LTC relative to BTC continued to fall, but the NAV still rose from BTC 0.115 to BTC 0.121 (+11.6%) as a result. Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volume is low and the bid-ask spread is very high, so the actual value of a share can vary quite a bit. LTC-GLOBAL paid no dividends to the fund during the week. As a result, no management fees were paid and no dividends were paid. VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Please don't want until the last minute to vote because the exchange may not display the dates correctly, and you may be too late. Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | LTC-ATF.B1 | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-16 | | ART | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-16 | Please note that the motion has a typo. This security trades on LTC-GLOBAL. | BITVPS | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | IPO | S.BBET-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | IPO | S.DICE-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | IPO | S.MPOE-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | IPO | | | | | - | | | | | | | | MOO.COW.MINING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-06 | Abstain | GOLD | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-09 | Approved: 833-3 | LTC-GAMING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-09 | Not approved: 722-83 | PAJKA.BOND | BTC-TC | 2013-02-09 | Abstain |
Note: The new LTC-GLOBAL security PUNT that IPOed recently is a joke. We won't be voting on it.
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Weekly Report Sunday, February 17, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 110 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1100 NAV: BTC 0.10774 (Based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 375.4 LTC) Dividend InformationWeekly dividend: BTC 0.16642 Weekly dividend (per share): BTC0.00015129 Weekly Yield: 0.14% Annualized Yield: 7.30% Management FeeNormal Fee (%0.02 of assets): 8.2588 LTC Waived: 0.0 LTC Fee Paid: 8.2588 LTC Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryDemand for LTC-GLOBAL shares has been high although volume continues to be low. The 7-day average price has risen from 347.17 LTC to 375.4 LTC (+8.1%). Despite that, the value of LTC relative to BTC fell sharply, and the NAV dropped from BTC 0.121 to BTC 0.108 (-10.7%) as a result. Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volume is low and the bid-ask spread is very high, so the actual price of a share can vary quite a bit. LTC-GLOBAL paid a large dividend this week, making up for the lack of a dividend last week. The fund's dividend for this week was BTC 0.00015129 per share, or 0.14% weekly yield (7.30% annualized). VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Please don't want until the last minute to vote because the exchange may not display the dates correctly, and you may be too late. Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | LTC-DMF | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-23 | | LTC-ARCADE | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-23 | | BTC-MINING | BTC-TC | 2013-02-23 | | S.WIHEE | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-22 | IPO | S.MPOE-PT | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-22 | IPO. Note: Same name, different issuer, different exchange. | COGNITIVE-PT | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-18 | IPO | | | | | - | | | | | | | | LTC-ATF.B1 | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-16 | Approved: 749-31 | ART | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-16 | Not approved: 40-159 | BITVPS | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | Abstained | S.BBET-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | Approved: 805-0 | S.DICE-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | Abstained | S.MPOE-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-02-11 | Approved: 805-0 |
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Weekly Report Sunday, February 24, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 120 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1200 NAV: BTC 0.10774 (Based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 361.11 LTC) 10 shares of LTC-GLOBAL were deposited into the fund in exchange for 100 shares of BTC-TRADING-PT. This transaction did not the dilute the value of the shares or change the amount of the dividend per share. Dividend InformationWeekly dividend: BTC 0.05934 Weekly dividend (per share): BTC0.00004945 Weekly Yield: 0.06% Annualized Yield: 2.93% Management FeeNormal Fee (%0.02 of assets): 8.67 LTC Waived: 0.0 LTC Fee Paid: 8.67 LTC Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryDemand for LTC-GLOBAL shares has fallen and volume remains low. The 7-day average price has risen from 375.4 LTC to 361.1 (-3.8%). In addition, the value of LTC relative to BTC fell sharply to BTC 0.00243. The result is that the NAV has dropped from BTC 0.1080 to BTC 0.0878 (-18.7%). Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volumes of both LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TRADING-PT are low and the bid-ask spreads are very high, so the actual prices of a shares can vary quite a bit. LTC-GLOBAL paid a decent dividend this week and this has been passed on to shareholders (after conversion to BTC). The fund's dividend for this week was BTC 0.00004945 per share, or 0.06% weekly yield (2.93% annualized). VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Motions must pass by a margin of 100 shares to be approved (a YES vote), or fail by a margin of 100 shares to not be approved (a NO vote). Votes within a margin of 100 shares receive an ABSTAIN vote. Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | BASIC-MINING | BTC-TC | 2013-03-02 | | ESECURITY-SA2 | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-02 | | TRIPLE-B-MINING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-28 | | | | | | - | | | | | | | | LTC-DMF | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-23 | Approved: 755-9 | LTC-ARCADE | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-23 | Not approved: 15-749 | BTC-MINING | BTC-TC | 2013-02-23 | Abstain | S.WIHEE | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-22 | Abstain | S.MPOE-PT | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-22 | Abstain | COGNITIVE-PT | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-18 | Approved: 646-150 |
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Weekly Report Sunday, March 3, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 120 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1200 NAV: 0.8330 (based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 368.57 LTC) Dividend InformationWeekly dividend: 0.0 BTC (LTC-GLOBAL paid no dividends this week) Weekly dividend (per share): 0.0 BTC Weekly Yield: 0.00% Annualized Yield: 0.00% Management FeeNormal Fee (%0.02 of assets): 8.85 LTC Waived: 8.85 LTC Fee Paid: 0.0 LTC Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryDemand for LTC-GLOBAL shares has fallen and volume remains low. The 7-day average price has risen only slightly, going from 361.1 LTC to 368.6 LTC (2.1%). In addition, the value of LTC relative to BTC has continued to fall, now down to 0.00226 BTC. The result is that the NAV has continued to fall, dropping from 0.0878 BTC to 0.0833 BTC (-5.1%). Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volumes of both LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TRADING-PT are low and the bid-ask spreads are very high, so the actual prices of a shares can vary quite a bit. LTC-GLOBAL paid no dividend this week. These intermittent dividends are inconvenient. I will be asking burnside to start paying dividends regularly, perhaps monthly. VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Motions must pass by a margin of 100 shares to be approved (a YES vote), or fail by a margin of 100 shares to not be approved (a NO vote). Votes with a margin of less than 100 shares receive an ABSTAIN vote. Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | SYNERGY | BTC-TC | 2013-03-09 | | ASICMINER-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-03-09 | IPO | AJM.MINING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-09 | | LTC-ATF | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-09 | | | | | | - | | | | | | | | BASIC-MINING | BTC-TC | 2013-03-02 | Approved: 689-1 | ESECURITY-SA2 | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-02 | Abstain | TRIPLE-B-MINING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-02-28 | Abstain |
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Trading Alert Sunday, March 3, 2013 The price of LTC, both in USD and BTC has been extremely volatile today, rising more that 40% vs. BTC, including swings as big as 20% This activity is very unusual and has no obvious cause. This volatility has a very big impact on the BTC-Trading Pass-Through Fund because the underlying assets (shares of LTC-GLOBAL) are traded using LTC, but BTC-TRADING-PT is denominated in BTC. As a result there have been very large changes in the price of BTC-TRADING-PT shares as a result of the changes in the relative price of the underlying assets. As a side note, this volatility is affecting the prices of all securities on the LTC-GLOBAL exchange, as well as all LTC/BTC pass-through funds on all exchanges. Until this activity subsides, please be careful. Please monitor your trades.
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I have the worst timing. I just issued the divs for Feb 22 - Feb 28. Though I screwed up and included the asset creation fee on ASICMINER-PT which should have been a part of the next div for Mar 1 thru Mar ?.
I cut it as of the end of Feb because I've been contemplating doing it monthly. It's a bunch of work trying to put together the report on oddball days of the week/month, so once a month covering the previous month would be way easier. I'll sleep on it a few more nights and let everyone know where we end up.
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Weekly Report Sunday, March 10, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 120 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1200 NAV: 0.1593 (based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 320.49 LTC) Dividend InformationWeekly dividend: 0.07238 BTC Weekly dividend (per share): 0.00006032 BTC Weekly Yield: 0.04% Annualized Yield: 1.97% Management FeeNormal Fee (%0.02 of assets): 7.69 LTC Waived: 0.0 LTC Fee Paid: 7.69 LTC Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryThe big news for the week is the huge increase in the value of LTC relative to both BTC and USD. This increase has been reflected in both the NAV and the dividend. The price of LTC-GLOBAL shares has fallen this week, primarily due to shareholders cashing out after the big LTC price jump, but also due to the continuing low demand for shares. The 7-day average price fell sharply from 368.6 LTC to 320.5 LTC (-13%). On the other hand, the value of LTC relative to BTC turned around has more than doubled, up from 0.00226 BTC to 0.00497 (+120%). So, despite the drop in asset value in terms of LTC, the NAV has has risen from 0.0833 BTC to 0.159 BTC (+91%). Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volumes of both LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TRADING-PT are low and the bid-ask spreads are very high, so the actual price of a share can vary quite a bit. LTC-GLOBAL paid a dividend of 22.28 LTC. After subtracting the management fee and converting to BTC, the fund earned an income of 0.07238 BTC (0.00006032 BTC per share) that will be distributed as a dividend on Tuesday. Weekly Reports and Dividend PaymentsLTC-GLOBAL has decided to begin paying dividends on a regular schedule of once per month. As as result, dividends paid by BTC-TRADING-PT will also be changed to once per month. The schedule has yet to be determined. In the meantime, fund reports will continue to be published weekly until the next dividend is paid. After that, reports will be published monthly, coinciding with dividend payments. The management fee is unchanged at 1% of assets per year, but will now be paid at a rate of 0.083% monthly. VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Motions must pass by a margin of 100 shares to be approved (a YES vote), or fail by a margin of 100 shares to not be approved (a NO vote). Votes with a margin of less than 100 shares receive an ABSTAIN vote. Please note: There are several IPO securities up for a vote this week. These securities have earlier deadlines because approval is necessary to begin trading. Don't be late! Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | CRYPTO-TRADE | BTC-TC | 2013-03-13 | IPO | CRYPTO-TRADE | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-13 | IPO | LHCOIN | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-13 | IPO | COGNITIVE | BTC-TC | 2013-03-15 | | | | | | - | | | | | | | | SYNERGY | BTC-TC | 2013-03-09 | Abstain | ASICMINER-PT | BTC-TC | 2013-03-09 | Abstain | AJM.MINING | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-09 | Abstain | LTC-ATF | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-09 | Abstain |
None of the securities up for approval this week got more than 100 votes either way. This is probably related to the number of publicly-owned shares dropping significantly (below 400). The low number of shares makes approval of any security unlikely. So, if there are not enough votes this week, voting will be temporarily suspended until the number of publicly-owned shares has increased by at least 100. EDIT: The decision to suspend voting due to low participation has been postponed.
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Weekly Report Sunday, March 17, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 100 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1000 NAV: 0.233 (based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 158.18 LTC) 200 shares of BTC-TRADING-PT were redeemed for 20 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Dividend InformationDividends are now paid monthly Management FeeThe management fee is now paid monthly. Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryThis week turned out to be a repeat of last week, extending the huge increase in the value of LTC relative to both BTC and USD. The price of LTC-GLOBAL shares has fallen even more severely this week, probably due again to shareholders cashing out as a result of the big LTC price jump. The 7-day average price fell sharply from 320.5 LTC to 158.2 LTC (-51%). On the other hand, the value of LTC relative to BTC rose sharply from 0.0497 BTC to 0.147 BTC (+196%). So, despite the drop in asset value in terms of LTC, the NAV has has risen from 0.159 BTC to 0.233 (+47%). Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volumes of both LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TRADING-PT are low and the bid-ask spreads are very high, so the actual price of a share can vary quite a bit. Changes to Weekly Report, Dividend Payment, and Fee SchedulesLTC-GLOBAL has decided to begin paying dividends on a regular schedule of once per month. As as result, BTC-TRADING-PT dividends will also be paid once per month, after the dividend from LTC-GLOBAL has been received. In the meantime, fund reports will continue to be published weekly until the next dividend is paid. After that, reports will be published monthly, coinciding with dividend payments. The management fee is unchanged at 1% of assets per year, but will now be paid at a rate of 0.083% monthly. Current fee waivers will still apply, but will be adjusted to account for the change to monthly dividends. The exact schedule has yet to be determined. VotingThe fund has motions for voting on approval of the following securities. Motions must pass by a margin of 100 shares to be approved (a YES vote), or fail by a margin of 100 shares to not be approved (a NO vote). Votes with a margin of less than 100 shares receive an ABSTAIN vote. Motions that receive less than 100 votes will not be considered valid. Please note the earlier deadlines for IPOs. Voting on IPOs ends sooner than established securities because trading on a security cannot begin until the security is approved. Ticker | Exchange | Deadline | Notes | COG.F | BTC-TC | 2013-03-21 | IPO | LTC-GOLD | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-23 | | ESECURITY-SA | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-23 | | SYNERGY | BTC-TC | 2013-03-23 | Second try. Please vote | | | | | - | | | | | | | | CRYPTO-TRADE | BTC-TC | 2013-03-13 | Abstain | CRYPTO-TRADE | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-13 | Abstain | LHCOIN | LTC-GLOBAL | 2013-03-13 | Not approved: 1-150 | COGNITIVE | BTC-TC | 2013-03-15 | Not approved: 20-135 |
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March 25, 2013, 09:01:26 AM |
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Weekly Report Sunday, March 24, 2013 OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 100 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1000 NAV: 0.180 (based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 211.09 LTC) Dividend InformationDividends are now paid monthly Management FeeThe management fee is now paid monthly. Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryThe price of LTC-GLOBAL shares recovered somewhat after the price of LTC stopped rising and underwent a major correction, and the 7-day average price rose from 158.2 LTC to 211.09 LTC (+33%). On the other hand, the value of LTC ended it meteoric rise with a sudden fall from 0.147 BTC down to 0.00853 (-42%). So, in a complete reversal of the previous week, the NAV has fallen from 0.233 BTC to 0.180 BTC (-23%). Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volumes of both LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TRADING-PT are low and the bid-ask spreads are very high, so the actual price of a share can vary quite a bit. Changes to Weekly Report, Dividend Payment, and Fee SchedulesLTC-GLOBAL has decided to begin paying dividends on a regular schedule of once per month. As as result, BTC-TRADING-PT dividends will also be paid once per month, after the dividend from LTC-GLOBAL has been received. In the meantime, fund reports will continue to be published weekly until the next dividend is paid. After that, reports will be published monthly, coinciding with dividend payments. The management fee is unchanged at 1% of assets per year, but will now be paid at a rate of 0.083% monthly. Current fee waivers will still apply, but will be adjusted to account for the change to monthly dividends. The exact schedule has yet to be determined. VotingFor the last few months, the fund has made motions for voting on approval of securities on the LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TC exchanges. This is a benefit and a responsibility of shareholders of LTC-GLOBAL that has been passed to the shareholders of BTC-TRADING-PT. The dramatic volatility in the LTC and BTC markets over the last few weeks has resulted in nearly all shares in the fund being sold back to John Galt. While public ownership has increased this week, very few votes were cast for the securities up for approval. As a result of the lack of participation, voting has been suspended for existing securities until the number of publicly-owned shares returns to a sufficient number to ensure a fair and effective vote. Voting will still be held for IPOs. In addition, the results of the motions voted on over the last three weeks will be invalidated, and the NO votes for LHCOIN and COGNITIVE will be changed to ABSTAIN.Motions must pass by a margin of 100 shares to be approved (a YES vote), or fail by a margin of 100 shares to not be approved (a NO vote). Votes with a margin of less than 100 shares receive an ABSTAIN vote. The results of motions that receive less than 200 votes will not be considered valid. Please note the earlier deadlines for IPOs. Voting on IPOs ends sooner than established securities because trading on a security cannot begin until the security is approved.
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March 30, 2013, 11:17:20 PM |
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Weekly Report Saturday, March 30, 2013 There is a motion to change the fee and dividends to monthly from weekly. This is necessary because LTC-GLOBAL has changed its dividend payments to monthly. Please vote. OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 100 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1000 NAV: 0.122 (based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 158.48 LTC) Dividend InformationDividends will be paid monthly Management FeeThe management will be paid monthly. Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryThe price of LTC-GLOBAL shares fell sharply last week, and the 7-day average price fell from 211.09 LTC to 154.48 LTC (-25%). In addtion, the fall in the value of LTC against BTC continued, falling from 0.00853 BTC to 0.00770 BTC (-9.7%). As a result, the NAV continued its fall from 0.180 BTC to 0.122 BTC (-32%). Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volumes of both LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TRADING-PT are low and the bid-ask spreads are very high, so the actual price of a share can vary quite a bit. Changes to Weekly Report, Dividend Payment, and Fee SchedulesLTC-GLOBAL has decided to begin paying dividends on a regular schedule of once per month. As as result, BTC-TRADING-PT dividends will also be paid once per month, after the dividend from LTC-GLOBAL has been received. In the meantime, fund reports will continue to be published weekly until the next dividend is paid. After that, reports will be published monthly, coinciding with dividend payments. The management fee is unchanged at 1% of assets per year, but will now be paid at a rate of 0.083% monthly. Current fee waivers will still apply, but will be adjusted to account for the change to monthly dividends. The BTC-TRADING-PT dividend will be paid within 5 business days of receiving the monthly dividend from LTC-GLOBAL. This change requires a change the contract. A motion has been posted. Please vote.VotingFor the last few months, the fund has made motions for voting on approval of securities on the LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TC exchanges. This is a benefit and a responsibility of shareholders of LTC-GLOBAL that has been passed to the shareholders of BTC-TRADING-PT. The dramatic volatility in the LTC and BTC markets over the last few weeks has resulted in nearly all shares in the fund being sold back to John Galt. While public ownership has increased this week, very few votes were cast for the securities up for approval. As a result of the lack of participation, voting has been suspended for existing securities until the number of publicly-owned shares returns to a sufficient number to ensure a fair and effective vote. Voting will still be held for IPOs. In addition, the results of the motions voted on over the last three weeks will be invalidated, and the NO votes for LHCOIN and COGNITIVE will be changed to ABSTAIN.Motions must pass by a margin of 100 shares to be approved (a YES vote), or fail by a margin of 100 shares to not be approved (a NO vote). Votes with a margin of less than 100 shares receive an ABSTAIN vote. The results of motions that receive less than 200 votes will not be considered valid. Please note the earlier deadlines for IPOs. Voting on IPOs ends sooner than established securities because trading on a security cannot begin until the security is approved.
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April 06, 2013, 04:43:30 PM |
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Monthly Report March 2013
April 6, 2013 The motion to change the fee and dividends to monthly from weekly has passed. OverviewAsset InformationAssets: 100 shares of LTC-GLOBAL Shares Outstanding: 1000 NAV: 0.153 (based on the LTC-GLOBAL 7 day average price of 145.74 LTC) Dividend InformationDividend (paid 2013-4-6): 0.49740 BTC Dividend per share: .00049740 BTC Monthly Yield (based on NAV): 0.32% Annualized Yield: 3.89% Management FeeNormal Fee (0.08333% of asset value): 12.15 LTC Waived: 0 Fee Paid: 12.15 LTC Detailed information can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3m7aRNI-JbdElvTTc5Vmg3bUh2WDAwc2tsLU1JcEECommentaryAs reported in previous weekly updates, the price of LTC-GLOBAL shares has fell sharply last month, probably due to the incredible rise of the value of LTC in both BTC and dollar terms. Despite the fall in prices, the value of LTC-GLOBAL has risen in terms of both BTC and dollars because of the rise in the value of LTC. The 7-day average price stands 145.74 LTC. In the end, the NAV at the end of the month is 0.153 BTC, which is approximately 50% higher than the value at the end of the previous month. LTC-GLOBAL paid a monthly dividend of 59.52 LTC. After subtracting the management fee and converting to BTC, the fund earned an income of 0.49740 BTC (0.00049740 BTC per share) that was distributed today. Please note that the NAV is only an estimation of the value of the shares. The trading volumes of both LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TRADING-PT are low and the bid-ask spreads are very high, so the actual price of a share can vary quite a bit. VotingFor the last few months, the fund has made motions for voting on approval of securities on the LTC-GLOBAL and BTC-TC exchanges. This is a benefit and a responsibility of shareholders of LTC-GLOBAL that has been passed to the shareholders of BTC-TRADING-PT. The dramatic volatility in the LTC and BTC markets over the last few weeks has resulted in nearly all shares in the fund being sold back to John Galt. While public ownership has increased this week, very few votes were cast for the securities up for approval. As a result of the lack of participation, voting has been suspended for existing securities until the number of publicly-owned shares returns to a sufficient number to ensure a fair and effective vote. Voting will still be held for IPOs. Motions must pass by a margin of 100 shares to be approved (a YES vote), or fail by a margin of 100 shares to not be approved (a NO vote). Votes with a margin of less than 100 shares receive an ABSTAIN vote. The results of motions that receive less than 200 votes will not be considered valid. Please note the earlier deadlines for IPOs. Voting on IPOs ends sooner than established securities because trading on a security cannot begin until the security is approved.
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