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January 08, 2016, 09:39:18 AM |
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I came across some site which is like a bitcoin washing site but peer to peer, the site itself acts like an escrow and allows people to trade apparently 'dirty' bitcoins(maybe from hacked wallets im thinking or stolen, scammed etc) for 'clean' bitcoins. Now i don't know if it's legit the whole idea of it. I always thought bitcoins were anonymous either way why would someone even do that and lose 30 coins?
Although I'm quite new to this stuff so if anyone knows more about this stuff I'd be happy to hear your opinions/experiences on this.
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January 08, 2016, 09:42:43 AM |
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asking for so much upfront is obviously fishy
im thinking the website itself will scam you and then some how say its some anonymous person on the other side of the escrow that done a malle attack.. where in reality their was no person on the other side of the trade.
i would stay far far away from sites like that, too many red flags
if anyone wants to mix coins. they just create a new account on a legitimate exchange. deposit coins and then withdraw.. the withdrawal coins will be different and the fee is well under 1%.
even dodgy drug dealers wouldnt trade at a 60% loss just to swap coins
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January 08, 2016, 10:21:58 AM |
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No one would do such a thing. Even hackers that have stolen thousands of coins won't be that desperate to use such a service. People can simply mix their coins in a quick fashion without leaving much dust behind. If you want to do it thoroughly, then you can do it in a slow manner and then it will be even harder to track them, if ever.
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January 08, 2016, 10:42:44 AM |
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wow this sounds like a big time scam!
they prob keep your 50 bitcoin and then just not respond to you. All it takes is one sucker and the whole thing was worth it.
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January 08, 2016, 10:46:34 AM |
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I came across some site which is like a bitcoin washing site but peer to peer, the site itself acts like an escrow and allows people to trade apparently 'dirty' bitcoins(maybe from hacked wallets im thinking or stolen, scammed etc) for 'clean' bitcoins. Now i don't know if it's legit the whole idea of it. I always thought bitcoins were anonymous either way why would someone even do that and lose 30 coins?
Although I'm quite new to this stuff so if anyone knows more about this stuff I'd be happy to hear your opinions/experiences on this.
after this tx there are other 50 coins to clean ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) it's a sort of perpetual exchange ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) yes this is a pure scam, the classic honey pot, and even a coins can be "seized" after was send from the original owner, then just press "new wallet" or create one and you can clean by yourself, if you are a "criminal". by the way, classical scam attempt.
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January 08, 2016, 11:21:00 AM |
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I came across some site which is like a bitcoin washing site but peer to peer, the site itself acts like an escrow and allows people to trade apparently 'dirty' bitcoins(maybe from hacked wallets im thinking or stolen, scammed etc) for 'clean' bitcoins. Now i don't know if it's legit the whole idea of it. I always thought bitcoins were anonymous either way why would someone even do that and lose 30 coins?
Although I'm quite new to this stuff so if anyone knows more about this stuff I'd be happy to hear your opinions/experiences on this.
after this tx there are other 50 coins to clean ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) it's a sort of perpetual exchange ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) yes this is a pure scam, the classic honey pot, and even a coins can be "seized" after was send from the original owner, then just press "new wallet" or create one and you can clean by yourself, if you are a "criminal". by the way, classical scam attempt. You can't clean by yourself, you need to send the coins to a mixer. Having a new wallet will do no "cleaning" whatsoever.
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January 08, 2016, 11:54:37 AM |
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The mixing services that people is using to clean its bitcoins aren't charging this high fees. I supose that this website is trying to scam users.
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January 08, 2016, 12:05:19 PM |
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I've seen this website before, and from what I heard it's not a scam. I've never done this myself though (don't have the need) but it does seem very fishy, it doesn't add up.
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January 08, 2016, 12:06:52 PM |
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I think you are talking about tainted and untainted coin (fresh mined coin) but i don't find any diffirence in usability of both coins. I have never heard someone selling untainted coin for higher price than tainted one.
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January 08, 2016, 12:07:09 PM |
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The conspiracy in here, some people don't like being associated with any used bitcoins which is why they buy freshly mined ones. Is that so hard to believe? The price is steep though, most people would only give a 10% premium
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January 08, 2016, 12:14:47 PM |
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Bitcoin is definitely not anonymous. I can imagine there are sites like that out there but folks could try, like, being honest and not have to deal with such things.
I assume established mixing services can only do so much volume but 50-80 coins should be easily achievable by them and it would cost a fraction of that.
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January 08, 2016, 12:22:27 PM |
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I honestly don't care about fresh or dirty bitcoins.How can one even determines that ? There is not difference in the value of it anyway.I think I'm happy with my dirty bitcoins instead of taking a loss.Also that website which promises offering such services doesn't seem very legit.
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January 08, 2016, 12:24:24 PM |
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explicitly not. how could you gain 80 bitcoins by paying 50 bitcoins out? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) isn't this a lie? because basically nobody would pay out BTC80 to get BTC50 no matter dirty or clean. it wastes your money.
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January 08, 2016, 12:24:36 PM |
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I came across some site which is like a bitcoin washing site but peer to peer, the site itself acts like an escrow and allows people to trade apparently 'dirty' bitcoins(maybe from hacked wallets im thinking or stolen, scammed etc) for 'clean' bitcoins. Now i don't know if it's legit the whole idea of it. I always thought bitcoins were anonymous either way why would someone even do that and lose 30 coins?
Although I'm quite new to this stuff so if anyone knows more about this stuff I'd be happy to hear your opinions/experiences on this.
Although apparently there are some people who would need a service like this, still they are asking too much IMO. I used to think some time ago that there is no difference between so called "clean" and "dirty" Bitcoins but I was wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3mea6b/bitpay_is_blacklisting_certain_bitcoins_rejecting
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January 08, 2016, 12:26:24 PM |
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Its a scam.
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January 08, 2016, 12:34:25 PM |
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explicitly not. how could you gain 80 bitcoins by paying 50 bitcoins out? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) isn't this a lie? because basically nobody would pay out BTC80 to get BTC50 no matter dirty or clean. it wastes your money. You can use mixing service, like bitmixer.io, which is existing for long time and reliable. Their minimum fee is 0.5% plus 0.0005 BTC for every forward address.
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January 08, 2016, 12:44:00 PM |
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definitely a scam.
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January 08, 2016, 12:49:08 PM |
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Sounds like an obvious scam. I dont know how many time i have to repeat this and everyone knows it. "if it sounds to good to be true it usually is" ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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January 08, 2016, 12:53:19 PM |
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Sounds like an obvious scam. I dont know how many time i have to repeat this and everyone knows it. "if it sounds to good to be true it usually is" ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It's not really too good to be true though, is it? Paying 80 coins in return for 50 is a fucking dismal deal in anyone's book. Still, plenty of room for scamminess all the same.
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January 08, 2016, 12:57:17 PM |
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I don't care also even I don't know How I can know when I earn some Satoshi if it's dirty or clean.
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