Gavineries

[keepdoing]

If classic reaches 51 percent, the rest will follow soon. The process is absolutely transparent.

That is incorrect.

Due to the presence of spoofed Not_Classic and Pseudo_Classic nodes, the process is absolutely opaque.

Uncertainty about the authenticity/provenance/intent of Gavinblocks creates a moment of maximized risk, at the exact time (potential) defectors from Core's socioeconomic majority most need reassurance they will not lose coins when the attacking chain is orphaned.

OMG!  Now I am frieking out!  FEAR! UNCERTAINTY!  DOUBT!

The way you use so many fancy sounding words tied together in ways that mean absolutely nothing - totally convinces me that something scary must be up! 

And the Classic Code hasn't even been released, and yet there are Pseudo-Nodes circulating!  Will the technological miracles that these evil gavinista minds come up with never cease! 

OH Wait!  I seee.... it's just a bunch of Hijaaking Losers panicking, because they know the jigs up, and most likely their credibility and trust will be FOREVER lost to the overall community.  Honestly I have always been rather pro-blockstream from a conceptual standpoint.  Always thought they had some solid downstream potential in the bitcoin ecosystem.  But the way this has unfolded is really leaving a bigger sour taste in the mouth than I can imagine.   If they keep this fight and denial up - I can see their brand being permanently damaged.

blockstream #REKT

[johnyj]

Paranoid atmosphere here is healthy, better than risk taken gamblers 

[iCEBREAKER]

yet another Bitcoin fork branded as "Bitcoin Classic"..

Note one of his new "partner in crime":





Spice it up with Cryptsy's unsurprising EXIT SCAM:

http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/iMedia_PC_Bio.aspx?ID=66373



http://insidebitcoins.com/chicago/2015/speakers

For 18 months Cryptsy failed to report to law enforcement the fact they had been robbed and disclose they are insolvent, instead choosing to operate on a fraudulent fractional reserve basis.

Now the site is gone entirely, leaving 100s of angry Goxed customers in its wake.

Small wonder Team_Classic has thrown Marshall Long down the memory hole and removed his name from their esteemed roster, which includes renowned devs like Peter Rizun.

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

....  irrelevant shit

#CORERAGE

Are you pissed off coz its a scam that you weren't involved with?

[btcusury]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

[QuestionAuthority]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62037.0

I doubt the CIA cares much about Bitcoin. The entire Bitcoin market cap wouldn't hide enough money to cover overthrowing even one government or funding one puppet regime. The CIA doesn't care about illegal drugs or illegal guns they buy and use both of them in their overseas operations (read up on Air America). Most likely they wanted to understand Bitcoin to find out if they could use it to launder money. Bitcoin isn't big enough yet to be useful to the CIA. The entire Bitcoin market cap is probably smaller than the CIAs budget for snacks. The agency in charge of fucking up interstate commerce that would worry about small time crimes using Bitcoin would be the FBI.

[Bergmann_Christoph]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62037.0

Thanks for that link. It's interesting how luke-jr was considered at this time

I've read many of the developer logs from Bitcoin and I must say I'm surprised this hasn't really come to a head earlier. If you read luke-jrs response to pretty much anything he disagrees with he does the "you do that and I'm not going to mine it" approach. "If you do that I'm going to fork the chain" . Basically turning every minor problem into a major one and using his pool as his body guard.

Does anyone actually think Luke-Jr is a positive presence? Attacking other currencies, filing false claims to hosts, inserting religious text into Bitcoin and finally holding Bitcoin development team to ransom to stall development? With that sort of positive presence I'm glad he's over here rather than focusing on SolidCoin. Tongue

Now, can you explain why GregMaxwell handed him over the key to his Push Access?

[QuestionAuthority]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62037.0

Thanks for that link. It's interesting how luke-jr was considered at this time

I've read many of the developer logs from Bitcoin and I must say I'm surprised this hasn't really come to a head earlier. If you read luke-jrs response to pretty much anything he disagrees with he does the "you do that and I'm not going to mine it" approach. "If you do that I'm going to fork the chain" . Basically turning every minor problem into a major one and using his pool as his body guard.

Does anyone actually think Luke-Jr is a positive presence? Attacking other currencies, filing false claims to hosts, inserting religious text into Bitcoin and finally holding Bitcoin development team to ransom to stall development? With that sort of positive presence I'm glad he's over here rather than focusing on SolidCoin. Tongue

Now, can you explain why GregMaxwell handed him over the key to his Push Access?

Remember back to high school or college. Now think about the biggest asshole you knew there. The asshole had friends, right?

[Bergmann_Christoph]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62037.0

Thanks for that link. It's interesting how luke-jr was considered at this time

I've read many of the developer logs from Bitcoin and I must say I'm surprised this hasn't really come to a head earlier. If you read luke-jrs response to pretty much anything he disagrees with he does the "you do that and I'm not going to mine it" approach. "If you do that I'm going to fork the chain" . Basically turning every minor problem into a major one and using his pool as his body guard.

Does anyone actually think Luke-Jr is a positive presence? Attacking other currencies, filing false claims to hosts, inserting religious text into Bitcoin and finally holding Bitcoin development team to ransom to stall development? With that sort of positive presence I'm glad he's over here rather than focusing on SolidCoin. Tongue

Now, can you explain why GregMaxwell handed him over the key to his Push Access?

Remember back to high school or college. Now think about the biggest asshole you knew there. The asshole had friends, right?

All right

I hoped there were better reasons ...

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Thanks for that link. It's interesting how luke-jr was considered at this time

I've read many of the developer logs from Bitcoin and I must say I'm surprised this hasn't really come to a head earlier. If you read luke-jrs response to pretty much anything he disagrees with he does the "you do that and I'm not going to mine it" approach. "If you do that I'm going to fork the chain" . Basically turning every minor problem into a major one and using his pool as his body guard.

Does anyone actually think Luke-Jr is a positive presence? Attacking other currencies, filing false claims to hosts, inserting religious text into Bitcoin and finally holding Bitcoin development team to ransom to stall development? With that sort of positive presence I'm glad he's over here rather than focusing on SolidCoin. Tongue

Now, can you explain why GregMaxwell handed him over the key to his Push Access?

Have a look at his contributions to PR#6 on Bitcoin Classic. Core can keep him.

[QuestionAuthority]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62037.0

Thanks for that link. It's interesting how luke-jr was considered at this time

I've read many of the developer logs from Bitcoin and I must say I'm surprised this hasn't really come to a head earlier. If you read luke-jrs response to pretty much anything he disagrees with he does the "you do that and I'm not going to mine it" approach. "If you do that I'm going to fork the chain" . Basically turning every minor problem into a major one and using his pool as his body guard.

Does anyone actually think Luke-Jr is a positive presence? Attacking other currencies, filing false claims to hosts, inserting religious text into Bitcoin and finally holding Bitcoin development team to ransom to stall development? With that sort of positive presence I'm glad he's over here rather than focusing on SolidCoin. Tongue

Now, can you explain why GregMaxwell handed him over the key to his Push Access?

Remember back to high school or college. Now think about the biggest asshole you knew there. The asshole had friends, right?

All right

I hoped there were better reasons ...

Sophisticated adults like to believe they put away childish things when they left school but in reality we never really grow out of them. Cliques of people develop at work just like they did in school. It's human nature and can't be helped.

[btcusury]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

That's not even part of it for me. I've been closely watching the little dictator react since the BIP 16/17 debates and he's been on the edge of reality for years. I've accused him, in posts here multiple times, of being a self serving power hungry manipulator. I haven't seen anything lately that changes my opinion.

So in your view it's more likely that he's ego-driven rather than having been recruited by CIA/other?

Yes, success and power are his only motivations and it shows. If you want to see ego based nerd rage at its finest read this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62037.0

You mean a distorted sense of "success and power", by climbing up the "authority" ladder set up for him since childhood? Yeah, seems accurate. CIA probably realized they didn't need to recruit him; just perhaps give him some "hints" to make him believe that he's "serving his country" and being a good "patriot".

I doubt the CIA cares much about Bitcoin. The entire Bitcoin market cap wouldn't hide enough money to cover overthrowing even one government or funding one puppet regime. The CIA doesn't care about illegal drugs or illegal guns they buy and use both of them in their overseas operations (read up on Air America). Most likely they wanted to understand Bitcoin to find out if they could use it to launder money. Bitcoin isn't big enough yet to be useful to the CIA. The entire Bitcoin market cap is probably smaller than the CIAs budget for snacks. The agency in charge of fucking up interstate commerce that would worry about small time crimes using Bitcoin would be the FBI.

Well, do you think CIA has a will of its own, and is not directed by a more central compartment such as DNI and various dark budget interests? Coups, weapons, drugs, are just some (difficult to hide) aspects of what the IC do. They wanted to find out if they could use Bitcoin to launder money, yes, that's a given, but their interest is always comprehensive, not limited to just one idea. Even back then before the banksters may have begun to perceive Bitcoin/cryptocurrency/decentralization as a threat, their main interest would probably still have been to control it, by attempting to introduce control vectors that might eventually result in such control.

Sophisticated adults like to believe they put away childish things when they left school but in reality we never really grow out of them. Cliques of people develop at work just like they did in school. It's human nature and can't be helped.

Of course it can! It already is! Sure there are many egos still clashing and feeling good by "being right" (hell, even I still succumb to that at times!), but if you're not noticing the changing energy on our planet you're not paying attention!

[QuestionAuthority]

My belief in the "changing energy on our planet" died in a hippie commune in 1975. That's the year I went to work for Lockheed Martin.

[btcusury]

LOL, but this is 2016 bro, a year of unprecedented change. Are you aware that life beyond the Earth even exists? By the end of the year, once the "authorities" have "officially" announced such a "discovery", I suspect you will!

[QuestionAuthority]

LOL, but this is 2016 bro, a year of unprecedented change. Are you aware that life beyond the Earth even exists? By the end of the year, once the "authorities" have "officially" announced such a "discovery", I suspect you will!

No, I never heard. I missed the whole "life beyond Earth" briefing. I was getting a bikini wax and pedicure that day.

[hdbuck]

Recent Bitcoin Direction
http://qntra.net/2016/01/recent-bitcoin-direction/

A miners warning
http://deedbot.org/deed-393913-1.txt

[watashi-kokoto]

Recent Bitcoin Direction
http://qntra.net/2016/01/recent-bitcoin-direction/

A miners warning
http://deedbot.org/deed-393913-1.txt

If Bitcoin survives a hardfork, It'll be unstoppable.

[hdbuck]

That's right, time to move on. Please do. Bitcoin is really not for you.

http://trilema.com/2016/thats-right-time-to-move-on-please-do-bitcoin-is-really-not-for-you/

Since yesterday's recap of the sad track record of the USG, the toomim clown received some bad news, with which he coped in the usual manner : by having a rather amusing public meltdown under the influence. Meanwhile the poopaganda machine came out in force with a pathetic chorus bemoaning "Bitcoin's death".

Whatever. For once we do agree : it's time to move on. Please do.

Bitcoin was never for you. Bitcoin was never for the poor ; Bitcoin was never for the voluble if worthless "social media" tramp ; Bitcoin was never for the soi-dissant "activist" aka scammer. Bitcoin was not for you.

And since we're doing this, let's proceed to dispell some myths.

I. It is false that Bitcoin has to be used by you for it to be valuable.

You believe man to be the measure of all things. This is a purely religious belief, exactly identical, and directly reducible, to the notion that there's a magical teapot spinning in the sky.

You believe that you are man, in the strict and strictly laughable sense that everything is equal to everything else and thus therefore you see yourself as not merely a uniquely bent spoon, vaguely related to various other better implementations of an ideal spoon and thus twice removed from that ideal but instead fully and completely, in and by yourself, equal and idempotent to everything man is, ever was or ever could be. This is also a religious belief, I suppose, although more indicative of psychopathology than what usually is called religion - on the continuum between the buddhist chanting and the fanatic beheading this sort of nonsense is certainly past the fanatic, hapilly floating in a schizoid sea towards waxy flexibility.

You put these two together and what comes out is the directly falsifiable notion that in order for Bitcoin to be valuable, it has to be usable by you. This is obviously not so : cars your whole bloodline could never, no matter what, ever afford are still cars, and valuable and enjoyed by those of your betters that can actually buy one. That nobody in your family ever wore shoes does not imply that shoes are now worthless, or "not usable". It certainly does not imply that shoes should be doing things differently. Learn a trade, marry well, do something with your life so that you too might enjoy the glory of footwear, perhaps, however briefly, however distantly in the future.

II. It is false that Bitcoin has to "do good" in order to continue to exist.

Bitcoin can kill all your friends, and all the people you respect, and every other kitten. It can poop in your drink and insult your friendship and rape your pets for all the difference it makes. If lightning strikes where you sit, whether you feel a warm cozy sort of love for it or the most burning hatred imaginable is strictly irrelevant - electricity stays. If tomorrow your house burns down you'll be advised to take more care - blaming the victim as it were. Nobody's ever going to try change the fire. More generally : the world is not built on emotions, whether you "love" world peace or "hate" world peace or both or neither makes exactly not one grain of difference to world peace.

Bitcoin is not a product, like a belt that's tied too tight and so you can adjust to be less tight, or like an engine that runs too hot and so you can adjust to run a little cooler. Bitcoin is a rule, and if you're not happy with how it works you have to change, just like if you're unhappy with the effects gravitation has on your planned plane, you must change the plan. You can't attempt to change gravitation.

And there is no such thing as voting rules. The things you vote upon are laws, not rules. They really don't matter one bit.

There are other silly things ESLi muppets believe, such as that they are creative (they're not, and I don't mean that they aren't the most creative - I mean they're below average, and markedly so) and that they're "civilised" (god help you), and that the only way they've ever seen things done is necessarily the best possible way (do read Voltaire when you have a moment) and on it goesii. But let's keep things simple and sweet, in step with the comprehension and attention span of five year olds captive in seemingly adult bodies : it's time to move on. Please do.

Bitcoin really is not for you.