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December 29, 2012, 10:18:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQg0SD_AT-kI dont support lowering gun crime by banning or limiting our firearms choices. I do not want my children to be a gradually lowered gun crime statistic. I want them alive and protected. Guns do this. In every country that has outlawed guns, there have been dramatic rises in violent crimes. I guess I am selfish. I want the people I love alive, and if the people who try to harm them -or me - get killed, thats the breaks. If they kill other innocents who failed to prepare, its a terrible tragedy and I will mourn their loss, but its a cold hard world. Sorry. Prepare next time... with a gun and training. psssst ... for most, there is no next time.
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myrkul
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December 29, 2012, 10:20:44 PM |
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But... but... assault rifles are eeeeviiiil! |
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dotcom
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December 30, 2012, 03:13:22 AM |
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But... but... assault rifles are eeeeviiiil! msnbc told me so |
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December 30, 2012, 03:27:06 AM |
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In every country that has outlawed guns, there have been dramatic rises in violent crimes.
source? (please) |
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December 30, 2012, 03:28:37 AM |
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In every country that has outlawed guns, there have been dramatic rises in violent crimes.
source? (please) I don't think anyone in the US Govt is planning on outlawing guns, are they? |
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December 30, 2012, 08:22:52 AM |
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In every country that has outlawed guns, there have been dramatic rises in violent crimes.
source? (please) I don't think anyone in the US Govt is planning on outlawing guns, are they? Tyrants who effectively have no check on their power or the amount of heinous criminal acts they can get away with? No, never in a million years would they ever plan mass disarmament, enabling genocide. |
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December 30, 2012, 08:50:42 AM |
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I don't think anyone in the US Govt is planning on outlawing guns, are they?
Tyrants who effectively have no check on their power or the amount of heinous criminal acts they can get away with? No, never in a million years would they ever plan mass disarmament, enabling genocide. Plan to disarm the US? Probably not this time around. But boy, they surely would love to. And if they can get enough public support, drum up enough fear, they might try. To which, Jefferson responds: "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." "The security of a free state" doesn't just mean from foreign enemies. It's precisely that which the founders intended to prevent with the second amendment, and it's precisely to that end that they have largely defanged it. I don't want to sound like a crackpot, here, and I certainly don't think that anyone in the government wants to commit democide. Probably, they just want their job to be easier. Enforcing laws is obviously easier on a disarmed populace. Unfortunately, so is democide. So is oppression. So is tyranny. |
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January 05, 2013, 08:17:48 AM |
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In every country that has outlawed guns, there have been dramatic rises in violent crimes.
source? (please) I don't think anyone in the US Govt is planning on outlawing guns, are they? Tyrants who effectively have no check on their power or the amount of heinous criminal acts they can get away with? No, never in a million years would they ever plan mass disarmament, enabling genocide. Sure, but the US? |
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January 05, 2013, 08:28:49 AM |
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Everything is what you make it.
Things like guns, which are actually bad
can be used to do something morally good.
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EndTheFed123, if you had just taken the money it wouldn't have ended like this  BTW this hasn't been the real DPony13 since he "came back", I just hacked this account, SirLolicon is the real DPony13 I think. |
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January 05, 2013, 08:32:39 AM |
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Everything is what you make it.
Things like guns, which are actually bad
can be used to do something morally good.
The same can be said for nukes, drugs, and morally bad people. This is not in dispute. The dispute is whether the risk of allowing widespread access to guns in a given community outweighs the benefits. |
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January 05, 2013, 08:58:28 AM |
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In every country that has outlawed guns, there have been dramatic rises in violent crimes.
source? (please) I don't think anyone in the US Govt is planning on outlawing guns, are they? Tyrants who effectively have no check on their power or the amount of heinous criminal acts they can get away with? No, never in a million years would they ever plan mass disarmament, enabling genocide. Sure, but the US? What makes the tyrants who effectively have no check on their power or the amount of heinous criminal acts they can get away with that run the U.S. government so special that they couldn't possibly want to bathe in billions of litres of innocent blood? All these "gun free zone" massacres (that the government itself enables) are just appetizers. |
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January 05, 2013, 09:07:14 AM |
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In every country that has outlawed guns, there have been dramatic rises in violent crimes.
source? (please) I don't think anyone in the US Govt is planning on outlawing guns, are they? Tyrants who effectively have no check on their power or the amount of heinous criminal acts they can get away with? No, never in a million years would they ever plan mass disarmament, enabling genocide. Sure, but the US? What makes the tyrants who effectively have no check on their power or the amount of heinous criminal acts they can get away with that run the U.S. government so special that they couldn't possibly want to bathe in billions of litres of innocent blood? All these "gun free zone" massacres (that the government itself enables) are just appetizers. Interesting thought, but what makes you think that the US is at risk of becoming a tyranny? Do you have any sources you could share? |
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January 05, 2013, 09:26:00 AM |
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"At risk?" LOL
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January 05, 2013, 09:28:06 AM |
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"At risk?" LOL
I guess your definition of "tyranny" and and everyone else's is somewhat different. Could you explain more about what you mean? |
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January 05, 2013, 10:37:49 AM |
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"everyone else's"
Yes, "everyone else" in the world, (all 7,057,645,823 estimated people, with just me subtracted) sees zero tyranny whatsoever in the U.S.
Just puppies and rainbows.
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January 05, 2013, 10:42:20 AM |
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"everyone else's"
Yes, "everyone else" in the world, (all 7,057,645,823 estimated people, with just me subtracted) sees zero tyranny whatsoever in the U.S.
Just puppies and rainbows.
LOL
You really think that the US is at risk of becoming a dictatorship? Why, and who do you think the dictator is likely to be? |
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January 05, 2013, 10:59:31 AM |
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So, you won't respond to what I'm actually saying.
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January 05, 2013, 11:13:05 AM |
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So, you won't respond to what I'm actually saying.
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I have been trying to understand what your response to my comment is. Clearly I'm not doing well, so could you reply in a clear way? I'm not much of a one for riddles. The question was: "what makes you think that the US is at risk of becoming a tyranny? Do you have any sources you could share" |
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myrkul
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January 05, 2013, 05:22:36 PM |
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"what makes you think that the US is at risk of becoming a tyranny? Do you have any sources you could share"
And the answer was that it's not at risk. It already is. The president can kill US citizens, without any more due process than his say-so, inside or outside the borders. He can pass any law he so chooses, with those "executive orders." If that doesn't make it a tyranny, I don't know what does. Do you think that just because we pick a new El Presidente every 4 or 8 years, that makes it not a dictatorship? |
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