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April 11, 2016, 07:48:51 AM
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Right now we need a bigger exchange.

Yes, you are correct, we do. We have been working on C-Cex the last few weeks and some community members have paid for votes. Please everyone, at least give BERN your free vote on C-Cex. Of course paid votes are greatly appreciated but I know we are not rich. If we were, we would be supporting a different politician and a different coin project. Wink

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Thank you in advance!

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April 11, 2016, 08:03:57 AM
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This is how Bernie Sanders is competing with presidential hopefuls that accept bribes to the tune of millions of dollars from corporations. We the people. Thousands of people doing everything and anything they can to contribute. Because we know a little sacrifice and hard work now, could be the best thing we ever do for our future.



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April 11, 2016, 08:18:11 AM
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Wispher for a dream.
What if he wins New York?

#feelthebern #tyt

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April 11, 2016, 08:23:56 AM
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I want to say i can't believe there's a trump coin and Bern coin but I expected by now.
There is a coin for everything it's like rule 34 with out the porn


     
     

     
     
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April 11, 2016, 08:58:23 AM
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Wispher for a dream.
What if he wins New York?

#feelthebern #tyt

New York is going to be difficult. The establishment is very deeply entrenched there. Also, #hilLIARy has a lot of the people fooled there thinking she had a God damn thing to do with the $15 per hour minimum wage increase and apparently the black vote which no one can explain. Not even black people.  If New Yorkers take the time to look at facts and research, Bernie will win. Of course unless she, that jackass billdo, and the DNC do more of their epic voter suppression shenanigans. Which is almost a certainty they will try.

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April 11, 2016, 09:09:52 AM
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Wispher for a dream.
What if he wins New York?

#feelthebern #tyt

New York is going to be difficult. The establishment is very deeply entrenched there. Also, #hilLIARy has a lot of the people fooled there thinking she had a God damn thing to do with the $15 per hour minimum wage increase and apparently the black vote which no one can explain. Not even black people.  If New Yorkers take the time to look at facts and research, Bernie will win. Of course unless she, that jackass billdo, and the DNC do more of their epic voter suppression shenanigans. Which is almost a certainty they will try.

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Thy will be Done steve, just continue what are you doing.
good luck to your future dream and for this creation that
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April 11, 2016, 09:27:49 AM
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Wispher for a dream.
What if he wins New York?

#feelthebern #tyt

New York is going to be difficult. The establishment is very deeply entrenched there. Also, #hilLIARy has a lot of the people fooled there thinking she had a God damn thing to do with the $15 per hour minimum wage increase and apparently the black vote which no one can explain. Not even black people.  If New Yorkers take the time to look at facts and research, Bernie will win. Of course unless she, that jackass billdo, and the DNC do more of their epic voter suppression shenanigans. Which is almost a certainty they will try.

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Thy will be Done steve, just continue what are you doing.
good luck to your future dream and for this creation that
you just made.

Thank you for the wishes of luck, mate! But, pardon me while I replace luck with elbow grease. Wink

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April 11, 2016, 09:36:54 AM
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great to see that the trade volume went from 1 to 8!! on yobit.

Volume and activity is important to avoid getting moldy and stagnant

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April 11, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
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great to see that the trade volume went from 1 to 8!! on yobit.

Volume and activity is important to avoid getting moldy and stagnant

Yes sir! It is great to see. Smiley Future so bright, we need our shades!  Cool

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April 11, 2016, 10:47:57 AM
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great to see that the trade volume went from 1 to 8!! on yobit.

Volume and activity is important to avoid getting moldy and stagnant

Yes sir! It is great to see. Smiley Future so bright, we need our shades!  Cool

#BernieOrBust
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Seems BERNcash got picked up by https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/berncash/ yesterday

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April 11, 2016, 10:51:38 AM
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great to see that the trade volume went from 1 to 8!! on yobit.

Volume and activity is important to avoid getting moldy and stagnant

Yes sir! It is great to see. Smiley Future so bright, we need our shades!  Cool

#BernieOrBust

Seems BERNcash got picked up by https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/berncash/ yesterday

That is some good news! Thank you for sharing that, frostminer.

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April 11, 2016, 03:33:42 PM
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I wish there were some more detailed stats in the wallet client.
Especially about the STAKING.
Also, i have to restart it to get updated info.

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April 11, 2016, 04:25:55 PM
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I wish there were some more detailed stats in the wallet client.
Especially about the STAKING.
Also, i have to restart it to get updated info.

Hi frostminer,

What information about staking do you wish to see? You can mouse over the staking icon (the up arrow in the lower right corner) and a tool tip will display the staking information. Nothing updates after a restart that does not update with the wallet running. Can you elaborate for me please? Sorry, I do not follow your request.

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April 11, 2016, 04:52:16 PM
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I wish there were some more detailed stats in the wallet client.
Especially about the STAKING.
Also, i have to restart it to get updated info.

Hi frostminer,

What information about staking do you wish to see? You can mouse over the staking icon (the up arrow in the lower right corner) and a tool tip will display the staking information. Nothing updates after a restart that does not update with the wallet running. Can you elaborate for me please? Sorry, I do not follow your request.


I was waiting for the staking to start(maturing coins) .. but the tooltip said:

Your weight is 1
net weight   37046344
reward in 25726    days


It was like that all day... (yes, i had like 12 active connections to the Berncash net )
So i finally restarted the wallet.

Now popup said:

Your weight is 5625
net weight   37046344
reward in 4 days
(what reward, how is weight calculated)


I would love more details.
You know.. nerds loves stats and details.
What coins are staking... whats not matured.

A button like the "mining button" with a page with "staking" info would be like a wet dream.


(edit)
Restarted it again, now weight has grown.
Is it because more coins have matured? Are there many left to mature? And so on...
So many questions.. could be solved by a staking-stats-info page.
(also live update.. it clearly doesnt)

(edit 2)
Ok ... now it has updated.
So i guess, something..... Smiley

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April 11, 2016, 06:11:46 PM
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I wonder, if anyone else have heared the rumors about Tesla.
Elon Musk is according some people, including Tesla dealers concidering accepting some cryptocurency. They say, that it should be BERN, to support Bernie´s campaign.
To me it seems logical, Bernie has a lot of supporters in Silicon Valley, because of his promise to support education and research, also his enviromental policy is interresting.
Maybe it is bullshit, but I want to believe. If one company starts, other will follow.

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April 11, 2016, 08:02:00 PM
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Nice dip, too bad I didn't have any low buys in... lucky buggers

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April 11, 2016, 08:31:56 PM
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one great thing that could happen by using the election is to stir up talk about the blockchain, Imagine no running out of ballots, peoples party affiliations could be properly encrypted so they don't get changed by hacks, and outcomes unchangeable and available for all to see... the blockchain is the perfect tool for a voting platform. So getting some attention with BERN could deff do some good in the long run.

and you better believe that if Bernie gets in he'll be putting a stop to the superdelegate BS

https://www.facebook.com/MorningJoe/videos/10154096851828762/

PS I still haven't been added to the FB group Sad

slow and steady wins the race, just like Bernie has been doing the whole time... picking up more and more momentum as he goes, just like BERN will  Cool

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April 11, 2016, 08:36:35 PM
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I wish there were some more detailed stats in the wallet client.
Especially about the STAKING.
Also, i have to restart it to get updated info.

Hi frostminer,

What information about staking do you wish to see? You can mouse over the staking icon (the up arrow in the lower right corner) and a tool tip will display the staking information. Nothing updates after a restart that does not update with the wallet running. Can you elaborate for me please? Sorry, I do not follow your request.


I was waiting for the staking to start(maturing coins) .. but the tooltip said:

Your weight is 1
net weight   37046344
reward in 25726    days


It was like that all day... (yes, i had like 12 active connections to the Berncash net )
So i finally restarted the wallet.

Now popup said:

Your weight is 5625
net weight   37046344
reward in 4 days
(what reward, how is weight calculated)


I would love more details.
You know.. nerds loves stats and details.
What coins are staking... whats not matured.

A button like the "mining button" with a page with "staking" info would be like a wet dream.


Ok, I see what you are saying. Thank you for taking the time to elaborate. I will look into adding an informational tab/page but, I doubt I can give you more accurate or real-time staking information. I will do my best to elaborate for you why this is not possible.

Let us start the analysis of what you are asking with explaining how BERN starts to and stops staking. This is the "simple" part, if there is one. BERN mined blocks mature in ~30 minutes. BERN transactions confirm in ~4 minutes. Actually this is done with the number of blocks passed and not the number of minutes passed, but fortunately BERN has a target block timing of 1 minute so the conversion is straight forward. After either applicable time passes, they begin gaining what is called coin age. Coin age is calculated in days. It takes 24 hours after maturity or full confirmation for staking to start on the individual, fractions of, or grouped BERN effected (1, .001, or 100. i.e. transaction block). This is the minimum coin age for staking of BERN, 24 hours. The maximum coin age for staking is 4 years and at that point BERN residing in the same address will no longer collect PoS rewards. Coin age is reset anytime any amount of BERN moves for the specific BERN that have moved. Staking will not happen in a wallet that is encrypted and is still locked but the BERN will continue to gain coin age and therefor have more weight when staking is started. Weight is calculated by a function that contains the variables of coin age and the size of the transaction block (not to be confused with a block on the blockchian). When you think about a wallet that is even mildly used throughout a day, imagine all the "timers" of coin age that are present because every transaction has a timer attached to the all BERN within that transaction. Every faucet payment, every airdrop, every move to or from an exchange, and even every move of BERN to a different address within the same wallet. Extrapolate that out among all the wallets and all their transactions. If that sounds like a lot of time calculations, it's because it is. Please also note, weight only determines the frequency of installments towards the 10%. Again, this was the not-so-complex part.

"What reward," (or the installment as I have called it) can not be projected with any precision from day to day, hour to hour, minute to minute, or any other unit of measurement other than annually and that would demand all things to stay the same in your wallet (i.e. no transactions). When you mine a PoS block it is calculated at that instant in time from a snapshot of all the variables both internal to the wallet and external in the network and can not be safely guessed because of the limitless number of fluctuations that may or may not occur. Nor can the time be precisely estimated that you will receive an installment towards your 10% annual. That information you are looking at is only estimations taken at a snapshot in time of a very complicated 'black-box' of enormous variations. You might not be considering all the many variables that are ever-changing when you think that precise projections could ever be made. Even if you did have a computer and network fast enough to collect, calculate, and output all this periodically, let alone near real time.

Please for a moment think about all the ever changing external factors outside of your wallet for which you nor your wallet have control over: How many BERN wallets are online and staking. How many are not online and therefor not staking. How many BERN are they presently staking. How many BERN are they not staking (but these are still gaining coin age and subsequently will have more weight when they are staked). What is the coin age and weight of the BERN they are holding. What are the sizes of all their different transactions blocks. Also somewhere on the network, 250 BERN reach staking age every minute, unless they were moved prior to reaching minimum staking age 24 hours or sooner which resets those coin's age. Now think of the changes of all them just mentioned variables when people are sending and receiving constantly. Coin age is getting reset on some amount of BERN with every send and receive and subsequently network weight lowers. But at that same or very near time other coins on the other side of the network reach minimum staking age and push network weight upward by some amount based on the size of its transaction block. The matrix of constantly changing variables is really mind boggling even to think of all this happening on only with a few wallets and transactions. Let alone hundreds or thousands.

All of this could not be reported in anything remotely close to real time by any single computer even if it could gather all the information fast enough from all the nodes. Yes, I can make an informational tab/page in the wallet and perhaps I can make it estimate about staking more often but, the information it seems you are requesting, if I understand you correctly, will have to remain a wet dream until crypto, computational power, and the entire supporting Internet, all do some major evolving. Perhaps before the 2020 election when we get ready to vote Bernie in for his second term technology will exists to do this.

I hope I have successfully explained why the best answer to your question of, "what reward" is "10% annual" and briefly provided a bird's eye view of "how is weight calculated" and a gimps into the extremely complicated black-box that we know as Proof of Stake.

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April 11, 2016, 08:52:25 PM
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one great thing that could happen by using the election is to stir up talk about the blockchain, Imagine no running out of ballots, peoples party affiliations could be properly encrypted so they don't get changed by hacks, and outcomes unchangeable and available for all to see... the blockchain is the perfect tool for a voting platform. So getting some attention with BERN could deff do some good in the long run.

I have had these very same thoughts. But, what will we do when the rich corporations buy more hardware then the people can afford and they double spend the votes they want to.

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and you better believe that if Bernie gets in he'll be putting a stop to the superdelegate BS

https://www.facebook.com/MorningJoe/videos/10154096851828762/

PS I still haven't been added to the FB group Sad


I just now added you to the FB group. Sorry for the delay.

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Amen brother! Smiley

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April 11, 2016, 09:04:57 PM
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I wish there were some more detailed stats in the wallet client.
Especially about the STAKING.
Also, i have to restart it to get updated info.




*snip wall of great text*

I hope I have successfully explained why the best answer to your question of, "what reward" is "10% annual" and briefly provided a bird's eye view of "how is weight calculated" and a gimps into the extremely complicated black-box that we know as Proof of Stake.

Thanks for the great answer.
Yes, i understand the impossibility of any precise or correct staking preditcions.
On that point, just some rough apx. numbers would do.
But of the coins you have in the wallet, it should be possible to show how many are matured and staking.

When you spend coins, what coins are "used"? The oldest matured ones or new ones? Or do they afflict each other?


Btw, dont take this as negative critizism .. i enjoy the coin, the system and the wallet.
These are just what id wish for in a perfect wallet.

stats and numbers <3 Cheesy
(i even like plowing around in the log file)


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