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June 07, 2017, 02:38:38 PM Last edit: June 07, 2017, 03:24:59 PM by PeterTheGrape |
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Great post Peter, thanks. The explorer looks awesome also, but I think it is still syncing, correct?
This was/is my working list of nodes, did not cross check them with yours.
addnode=198.199.117.221:22566 addnode=82.173.108.213 addnode=84.110.183.206:22566 addnode=5.67.195.255:2256 addnode=151.236.10.190:22566 addnode=198.199.117.221:22566 addnode=73.16.62.26:22556 addnode=172.245.230.110:22566 addnode=84.24.19.223:22566 addnode=108.61.158.14:22566 addnode=73.8.63.79:22556 addnode=92.222.87.75:22566 addnode=98.254.109.98:22556 addnode=162.248.99.164:22556 addnode=193.227.134.111:22566 addnode=62.151.183.106:22566 addnode=63.247.147.166:22566 addnode=138.68.131.232:22566 addnode=45.55.157.54:22566 addnode=50.24.120.168:22556 addnode=98.115.147.74:22566 addnode=80.56.195.13:22556 addnode=124.190.244.47:22556 addnode=71.201.149.38:22556
There are several on both lists, so there is not a fork, most likely your list is a little old or some of the computers you have are offline. Yes, still synchronizing, but should only be a little while. add Before a person invests in a coin they should research the explorer a bit, especially if there has not been an active explorer for a while. The most important things might be a) Do coins have some reasonable distribution? If one person has all the coins then they can push the price to the moon then dump on newcomers and keep pounding the price down. This is done with coins that have short pow cycles but can also be done with a coin that was sleeping for a while. In this case it may be Cryptopia that has a lot of coins and they have been good so far in aiding distribution. b) If geographic distribution is good then there is some reason to think that the coin appeals to a wider group. That is visible on the geolocation part of the network tab. Not sure other things a person might look for.
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June 07, 2017, 04:35:52 PM |
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There are several on both lists, so there is not a fork, most likely your list is a little old or some of the computers you have are offline.
Yes, still synchronizing, but should only be a little while.
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Before a person invests in a coin they should research the explorer a bit, especially if there has not been an active explorer for a while.
The most important things might be a) Do coins have some reasonable distribution? If one person has all the coins then they can push the price to the moon then dump on newcomers and keep pounding the price down. This is done with coins that have short pow cycles but can also be done with a coin that was sleeping for a while. In this case it may be Cryptopia that has a lot of coins and they have been good so far in aiding distribution. b) If geographic distribution is good then there is some reason to think that the coin appeals to a wider group. That is visible on the geolocation part of the network tab. Not sure other things a person might look for.
I'm not sure either. Those are some solid tips though for any small coin. I do think it is a gamble anyway though at this phase, a chance to get in early and make a few bucks. I managed to get in around 5 litecoin satoshi when I saw the volume was growing fast. I was around when kitteh rose to 100+ bitcoin satoshi which is about x500 from here, but totally missed it back than, so I figured it was worth the shot this time. Seems like a lot of development is going on also. Wallets are popping up, new blockexplorer, probably not long before some dev team shows up at the github repo to bring back some live for the kitteh lovers out there. Website shows no signs of live yet sady, but keeping my eyes and ears open for more information.
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June 07, 2017, 06:57:46 PM |
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I have a bunch of this coin, but can somebody resolve the following. Coinmarketcap lists supply as 23,905,669,976 MEOW Cryptopia shows one wallet with 22, 582,000,000 and then a few wallets starting sround 2 billion and going down. https://i.imgur.com/0DFyfU7.png---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) Does anybody have an idea what the actual supply is? With around 30 billion on the exchange it seems like it must be high. 2) How did one person get what amounts to almost all of what existed when cmc last updated? 3) Is there an explorer that shows the history of the blocks so a person can check that things are not too skewed? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the big wallet belongs to Cryptopia then maybe they got it from running the pool and buying the coins as they are the only outlet for that coin, so if they own that wallet all is good as long as there is an explorer. This is a cool coin with good history as far as I know but without an explorer that gives clear stats a person should be hesitant to trust. If somebody wants to get fairglu to make an explorer, I'll chip in some. http://imgur.com/ldrnvNf.jpgMaybe ''the cat lover'' Vitalik Buterin got the big bag of Kittehcoins! Just ask him ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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PeterTheGrape
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June 07, 2017, 08:39:11 PM |
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I have a bunch of this coin, but can somebody resolve the following. Coinmarketcap lists supply as 23,905,669,976 MEOW Cryptopia shows one wallet with 22, 582,000,000 and then a few wallets starting sround 2 billion and going down. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0DFyfU7.png&t=665&c=cOXseX-xjYJ83w) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) Does anybody have an idea what the actual supply is? With around 30 billion on the exchange it seems like it must be high. 2) How did one person get what amounts to almost all of what existed when cmc last updated? 3) Is there an explorer that shows the history of the blocks so a person can check that things are not too skewed? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the big wallet belongs to Cryptopia then maybe they got it from running the pool and buying the coins as they are the only outlet for that coin, so if they own that wallet all is good as long as there is an explorer. This is a cool coin with good history as far as I know but without an explorer that gives clear stats a person should be hesitant to trust. If somebody wants to get fairglu to make an explorer, I'll chip in some. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FldrnvNf.jpg&t=665&c=AlhWgbONrGtkDg) Maybe ''the cat lover'' Vitalik Buterin got the big bag of Kittehcoins! Just ask him ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Still synchronizing, but as of 701 days ago 24 billion coins, coinmarketcap lists 24b so we'll see what actual supply is in a few hours. The big wallet may belong to Cryptopia, if they have been running the pool, and I don't know if that is the case. If the big wallet does belong to them then it would explain why such a high percentage of coins are on the exchange, and it also is good for the coin. I'm not a supporter of exchanges generally, but Cryptopia so far has been very responsible with how they handle smaller coins. They limited withdrawals on MEOW, in order to encourage fair distribution I guess, and there are other indications that they try to do what's best for the coin. If that wallet does not belong to Cryptopia then a person should try and find out more. Does anybody know if Cryptopia has been the major pool for Kittehcoin for a long time or some other reason for that wallet?
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June 07, 2017, 09:36:44 PM |
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So what's up with this catcoin ? Any dev alive ? No website and no twitter update since 2014 I love the concept you know cat, blockchain and nerds are great combo u know wanna mean. So what's up with Kittehcoin ?
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June 07, 2017, 10:59:15 PM |
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I miss coinedup , those were the days!! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 08, 2017, 02:05:54 PM |
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Got some of these from back in the day ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Did some digging and it appears the top wallet on Cryptopia belongs to the exchange. It is a total of all users wallets with means there is some decent distribution. So long as the block explorer does not show 10 Trillion coins I think we are good to go. This coin has been off everyones radar for a good year now so I think a comeback is on the cards. moonrock
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shtako
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June 08, 2017, 02:28:58 PM |
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Should be traded in Japan. Is there any japanese facing alt coin exchanges?
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moonrock
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June 08, 2017, 03:18:09 PM |
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Should be traded in Japan. Is there any japanese facing alt coin exchanges?
Agree. This would take off in Japan.
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Kenrich
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June 08, 2017, 03:29:50 PM |
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Should be traded in Japan. Is there any japanese facing alt coin exchanges?
Agreed with you ,sir .
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PeterTheGrape
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June 08, 2017, 05:08:34 PM |
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Got some of these from back in the day ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Did some digging and it appears the top wallet on Cryptopia belongs to the exchange. It is a total of all users wallets with means there is some decent distribution. So long as the block explorer does not show 10 Trillion coins I think we are good to go. This coin has been off everyones radar for a good year now so I think a comeback is on the cards. moonrock Block explorer shows 77 billion. block 1 Dec 24 2013 block 300k June 29 2014 / 12,002,102,098 coins block 600k Feb 29 2015 / 23,675,120,335 block 900k Dec 21 2015 / 24,247,684,887 block 1200k Nov 3 2016 / 24,847,684,887 coins ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) block 1300k Feb 6 2017 / 61,047,672,887 coins block 1400k May 14 2017 / 77,247,656,887 coins ... Total Coin Supply: 25,000,000,000 (decreased from 50,000,000,000) ...
Total coins: 25,000,000,000 coins. (reduced from 50B)
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Payout Schedule: ... Blocks 700,001+ — 2,000 Reward (flat) [/center]
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PeterTheGrape
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June 08, 2017, 05:53:23 PM |
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Agreed ... Cryptopia should note that whoever deposited those superblocks may be aware of an exploit that has ruined several old coins. Whether this coin will survive that or not, who knows, but it would be fair to pay the hijacker a small ransom for details of the exploit and a fix, to prevent further problems in old coins like this.
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June 08, 2017, 05:56:29 PM |
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Got some of these from back in the day ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Did some digging and it appears the top wallet on Cryptopia belongs to the exchange. It is a total of all users wallets with means there is some decent distribution. So long as the block explorer does not show 10 Trillion coins I think we are good to go. This coin has been off everyones radar for a good year now so I think a comeback is on the cards. moonrock Block explorer shows 77 billion. block 1 Dec 24 2013 block 300k June 29 2014 / 12,002,102,098 coins block 600k Feb 29 2015 / 23,675,120,335 block 900k Dec 21 2015 / 24,247,684,887 block 1200k Nov 3 2016 / 24,847,684,887 coins ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) block 1300k Feb 6 2017 / 61,047,672,887 coins block 1400k May 14 2017 / 77,247,656,887 coins ... Total Coin Supply: 25,000,000,000 (decreased from 50,000,000,000) ...
Total coins: 25,000,000,000 coins. (reduced from 50B)
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Payout Schedule: ... Blocks 700,001+ — 2,000 Reward (flat) [/center]
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moonrock
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June 08, 2017, 06:14:13 PM |
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Agreed ... Cryptopia should note that whoever deposited those superblocks may be aware of an exploit that has ruined several old coins. Whether this coin will survive that or not, who knows, but it would be fair to pay the hijacker a small ransom for details of the exploit and a fix, to prevent further problems in old coins like this. There is no exploit, they simply had enough hash power to fork it and create coins in the chain. Simply, we can remove the offending blocks that deviate from the 25B cap. Some action is starting with Kitteh. We need a couple devs to whip up some magic and get this back in the spotlight! Does anyone know anyone suited? I can help chip in for the work ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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PeterTheGrape
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June 08, 2017, 06:37:02 PM |
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Agreed ... Cryptopia should note that whoever deposited those superblocks may be aware of an exploit that has ruined several old coins. Whether this coin will survive that or not, who knows, but it would be fair to pay the hijacker a small ransom for details of the exploit and a fix, to prevent further problems in old coins like this. There is no exploit, they simply had enough hash power to fork it and create coins in the chain. Simply, we can remove the offending blocks that deviate from the 25B cap. Some action is starting with Kitteh. We need a couple devs to whip up some magic and get this back in the spotlight! Does anyone know anyone suited? I can help chip in for the work ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Could you explain
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June 08, 2017, 09:32:55 PM |
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There is no exploit, they simply had enough hash power to fork it and create coins in the chain. Simply, we can remove the offending blocks that deviate from the 25B cap.
Those blocks are sold to many people. Question is who should lose money? We who bought coins or the exchange or the crackers?
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June 08, 2017, 09:59:09 PM |
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Is it such case of injecting new very big blocks possible in the newer versions of bitcoin or litecoin too? I mean if hashrate is quite low.
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PeterTheGrape
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June 09, 2017, 04:07:25 AM |
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There is no exploit, they simply had enough hash power to fork it and create coins in the chain. Simply, we can remove the offending blocks that deviate from the 25B cap.
Those blocks are sold to many people. Question is who should lose money? We who bought coins or the exchange or the crackers? Somebody deposited 23 billion coins into their account at Cryptopia. Cryptopia has to decide if those coins are legitimate.
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June 09, 2017, 04:55:22 AM |
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There is no exploit, they simply had enough hash power to fork it and create coins in the chain. Simply, we can remove the offending blocks that deviate from the 25B cap.
Those blocks are sold to many people. Question is who should lose money? We who bought coins or the exchange or the crackers? Somebody deposited 23 billion coins into their account at Cryptopia. Cryptopia has to decide if those coins are legitimate. No, somebody probably deposited almost all of the 50 billions of blockchain injected coins. Very big part (maybe all?) of that injected coins sold at 1, 2, 3 or so litoshis before 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 months ago. Of course Cryptopia has many data too and probably they know who deposited that coins, but Cryptopia is not the court and they can't make the right decision what to do now. Few bitcoins, maybe few 10s, left the exchange, and every Cryptopia's decision would be wrong now. Only solutions with no new injured parties is to protect the coin from the new injections, I think.
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