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[ATguy]

I can speak for myselves only - (blah, blah, and blah)

If you can actually make a point then please make it in one small sentence less than 20 words (no-one is going to read your wall of text).

Bitcoin Core stopping Bitcoin adoption without working offchain solutions ready.

10 words above for everyone who cant grasp and process more than 20 words / post.

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[CIYAM]

Bitcoin Core stopping Bitcoin adoption without working offchain solutions ready.

Rubbish - next point?

(or are all your points just personal opinions like this one)

[bargainbin]

Bitcoin Core stopping Bitcoin adoption without working offchain solutions ready.

Rubbish - next point?

(or are all your points just personal opinions like this one)

How about you stop being so unpleasant, hmm?

[ATguy]

Bitcoin Core stopping Bitcoin adoption without working offchain solutions ready.

Rubbish - next point?

(or are all your points just personal opinions like this one)

I did not see much points from you here or in your history either, as far as I remember.

Im gonna stopping feeding your troll based responses anymore. Good luck catching other victims.

[CIYAM]

Im gonna stopping feeding your troll based responses anymore. Good luck catching other victims.

Good - getting trolls like you to stop posting is mostly what I am doing now (and I'm sure I'll catch others just easily as you).

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Im gonna stopping feeding your troll based responses anymore. Good luck catching other victims.

Good - getting trolls like you to stop posting is mostly what I am doing now (and I'm sure I'll catch others just easily as you).

If I may: Being an ass only makes it easier. Being trolled is a test of endurance and intellectual integrity. You've failed this test before.

[CIYAM]

If I may: Being an ass only makes it easier. Being trolled is a test of endurance and intellectual integrity. You've failed this test before.

Well - keep on trying - and let's see if you can beat me.

(btw - you just screwed up as everyone else can now see that your entire point is to troll rather than anything else - something that I knew that you would disclose sooner or later simply because you are not very smart)

[jonald_fyookball]

If I may: Being an ass only makes it easier. Being trolled is a test of endurance and intellectual integrity. You've failed this test before.

Well - keep on trying - and let's see if you can beat me.

(btw - you just screwed up as everyone else can now see that your entire point is to troll rather than anything else - something that I knew that you would disclose sooner or later simply because you are not very smart)

[Lauda]

Greg and the gang rightfully earned their respect in the space, but that also doesn't mean they are immune
from becoming controlling, having their own agenda, or making bad decisions.

I have never claimed this though.

Some feel this way and others do not who continue to support Core. Still others may be undecided or feel that both arguments have merit or that no one can be trusted anymore.

I disagree with some of those(those that solely oppose Core because of Blockstream). The block size debate started out as a technical discussion back when Gavin suggested 20 MB blocks (he was wrong). However, now it has turned mostly into a political game of speculation and accusations.

I really don't know what will happen and I certainly
don't have all the answers.

Despite the chaos, what I love about all this is that its a free market.  No one can force anyone to do anything. Everyone is free to make their own decisions, participate (or not) in whatever
they want, say whatever they want, and run whatever code they want.

This free market that you cherish enables manipulation of the average Joe and thus the possibility of self destruction becomes greater. I'm not saying that the free market is a bad thing, but it has its downsides (what doesn't?). I've seen so much false information in regards to Segwit, LN, sidechains, Blockstream and whatnot.

[jonald_fyookball]

Greg and the gang rightfully earned their respect in the space, but that also doesn't mean they are immune
from becoming controlling, having their own agenda, or making bad decisions.

I have never claimed this though.

never said you did 

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Dear Bitcointalk,

If CIYAM doesn't stop trolling me and you don't intervene I'll be forced to take action in the form of having my wife DDoS you or something.

Look to it!

BMB

[steeev]

wow intense level of noise coming from the usual suspects ...
 
having lost the technical argument, increasingly shrill desperation means they're now just trying to force the idea of a needless, rushed, and feebly envisioned hard fork through using character assassination of the very people that are preparing the ground for taking the entire project to the next level...

after all the big block figureheads and their lofty assertions faltered, and their huge numbers being thrown around withered to a rind of 2MB, and err, not much else, what seemed on this forum to have an air of last ditch bargaining has now just become ranting, foaming at the mouth accusation...

none of this noise changes anything though - it can't cover up the fact that their approach - (be it XT, Unlimited, Classic, or whatever the next retread's called) -  is inherently inferior.

[iCEBREAKER]

wow intense level of noise coming from the usual suspects ...
 
having lost the technical argument, increasingly shrill desperation means they're now just trying to force the idea of a needless, rushed, and feebly envisioned hard fork through using character assassination of the very people that are preparing the ground for taking the entire project to the next level...

after all the big block figureheads and their lofty assertions faltered, and their huge numbers being thrown around withered to a rind of 2MB, and err, not much else, what seemed on this forum to have an air of last ditch bargaining has now just become ranting, foaming at the mouth accusation...

none of this noise changes anything though - it can't cover up the fact that their approach - (be it XT, Unlimited, Classic, or whatever the next retread's called) -  is inherently inferior.

"withered to a rind of 2MB"

lmao

+1 for eloquent domination post   

[MicroGuy]

none of this noise changes anything though - it can't cover up the fact that their approach - (be it XT, Unlimited, Classic, or whatever the next retread's called) -  is inherently inferior.

How exactly is increasing the blocksize to 2MB an inferior 'retread' when it preserves Satoshi's original protocol in pristine virgin form?

[CIYAM]

How exactly is increasing the blocksize to 2MB a 'retread' when it preserves Satoshi's original protocol in pristine virgin form?

Well - the "pristine virgin form" had 32MB - so what exactly are you talking about?

(oh - yes - now that everyone has worked out that it can't work Gavin just keeps on reducing the amount in order to take over the project)

[Lauda]

Lets just all agree and do it, there really is no negative to kicking it up an extra mb.

No. There are no positives to this aside from a increase in capacity. Segwit does that and so much more. In the battle between Segwit and 2 MB blocks, Segwit is the clear winner by far.

It will give people experience on hard forks and a mutual one is a good place to start, to be honest I am pretty sure we all know there will more hard forks in the future.

That's the only reason that Garzik is supportive of Classic. He wants "us" to have experience with hard forks and I don't mind. If you disregard that, he does not have a real reason to support an implementation with a non existing development team (exclude Garzik and Gavin).

[franky1]

lauda thinks its a community vs blockstream.. and anyone in the community wanting 2mb must be deemed a threat and insulted as being a greedy banker or a cryptsy thieving toomin team..

over one million people in the community cannot all be greedy bankers or toomins.. (wake up lauda!! stop staring glazy eyed at your blockstream friends and see the rest of the world)

so how about 2mbsegwit.. 2 birds one stone.. seeing as how fullnodes need to upgrade in april anyway, and how it wont become consensus until 95%.. (imagining 2017-2018) it just sounds logical to have it all done in one upgrade ready for any possibility. rather than just a one way street. dominated by one company

[CIYAM]

over one million people in the community cannot all be greedy bankers or toomins.. (wake up lauda!! stop staring glazy eyed at your blockstream friends and see the rest of the world)

Stop making up stupid figures about "the community" - there are only "paid shills" such as yourself that we are talking about here.

(yes @franky1 - you are *done* and your are going to be stopped paid as soon as your masters can see that you are being "done like a dinner" everywhere that you post)

[franky1]

ill just leave this here because lauda deleted the post in the blockstream road map..

he doesnt want his blockstream disciples from seeing there is another way, that would prolong the buffer to allow more growth without endless upgrades from just one company.

if only the (1) roadmap was more like this as the choices:

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Stop making up stupid figures about "the community" -

go on, say the words that there are not 1 million bitcoin users. then ill prove you wrong.. you first though

[MicroGuy]

Lets just all agree and do it, there really is no negative to kicking it up an extra mb.

It will give people experience on hard forks and a mutual one is a good place to start, to be honest I am pretty sure we all know there will more hard forks in the future.

The community already does agree but core will never get approval from its corporate Blocksteam™/PWC wage masters.