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May 22, 2016, 06:02:37 AM |
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Bittrex trollbox admins said Lisk will be available on May 24
Wow, that's great news Good ol Bittrex comes through again! Great news indeed. And I'm assuming there's a screenshot or something of them saying this? Any proof? And yes, no Trollbox on Trex. That would be great news though. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fye86Pq3.png&t=665&c=eJbD27oITfUJMA) found it special trollbox there, have to refresh your browser 1000 times, on 1001 it shows up. 1337 tr4d0rz on1y!
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LeonardoDaVinci
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May 22, 2016, 06:58:54 AM |
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Oh what a feeling to be back...
Now as I've been quietly observing the
lisk thread, jus monitoring and watching...
I was one of the few who spoke up early on how lisk was gonna be big and wouldnt remain cheap for much longer.
I guess it caught on and others realized It too.. all kinds of predictions & price speculation.
I welcome it all to be honest..
I've seen someone post asking Where is that peer2peer360 guy!
Well.... I've been talking with some big investors about Performing due diligence on Lisk and after a few passing weeks to my surprise.. with much attention and hype surrounding Lisk, those same investors are anticipating & preparing for Lisk Launch and this is going to be bigger than we all originally thought..
over the next few weeks we'll see Some heavy investing in Lisk occuring
Word from the wise...
Dump Lisk & there is a strong likelihood you may jus be paying a higher price or a premium to re-enter Lisk..
Peer2peer36o
Welcome back! I appreciate your posts and your style too. These are some words of wisdom
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May 22, 2016, 09:01:55 AM |
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Anyone selling below $2 must be really stupid. I will buy all the lisk below $2 and sell all at $10 in 3 months ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thx for the laugh.. so he is saying anyone selling under a marketcap of $200 million is satupid because it will go to $1billion market cap after 5 days you know when you quote the marketcap its much easier to see the bullshit from them
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May 22, 2016, 09:14:43 AM |
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just waiting for the time to move a large campaign to introduce LISK same as it used to introduce bitcoin in the past, yeah it must be great, cheers
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May 22, 2016, 09:21:56 AM |
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Question: LISK on poloniex will be released?
Answer: Mods do not know if or when it would be added, neither do trolls
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May 22, 2016, 09:53:43 AM |
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What about the lisk Token on Bloombit?
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May 22, 2016, 10:08:19 AM |
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Acording with Max he have a massive vision for Lisk for the coming years, Lisk is hiring developers etc. So Now the train is starting to move very smooth but solid boys, My Lisk portafolio makes me smile, I'm with Lisk for the long therm because this team is hungry to do something remarkable, in deed it will come!!!!
Don't worry for the price, part 1 is the platform, this is driving Lisk to a market Price.
Part 2. Blockchain apps/Wait for them because there is were the fireworks starts. Blockchain apps will take Lisk for a ride in the clouds. 👍👍👍👍
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May 22, 2016, 10:08:23 AM Last edit: May 22, 2016, 10:18:47 AM by CryptoMaik |
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The LISK delegate system is a little bit unfair.. What do you think? Lisk delegate owners can continue to vote on own delegate servers (with different wallets ), and because they get forging reward they can use some of it for votes. As a result, they are at a given time no more to beat. So the rich become richer...and about a few years they control the 101 delegates. am honest, what are 101 server now worldwide, that means nothing, which is not even one per country!
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May 22, 2016, 10:27:57 AM |
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Opened my account and boom 5k bonus.. Its not that big but im very happy with it..
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May 22, 2016, 10:34:18 AM |
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The LISK delegate system is a little bit unfair.. What do you think? Lisk delegate owners can continue to vote on own delegate servers (with different wallets ), and because they get forging reward they can use some of it for votes. As a result, they are at a given time no more to beat. So the rich become richer...and about a few years they control the 101 delegates. am honest, what are 101 server now worldwide, that means nothing, which is not even one per country! Like always... this is how a DPoS algo/system works, if someone will buy a lot of lisk they can setup his own 101 delegates and start to forging. You can't block him ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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May 22, 2016, 10:37:06 AM |
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Lets see what will happen if yobit dont have at least 500000 lisk in portfolio at start...On balance volume show this is total sum they must distribute between traders there. If they rely to buy cheaper from somewhere else all early dumpers must be aware
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May 22, 2016, 10:39:16 AM |
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The LISK delegate system is a little bit unfair.. What do you think? Lisk delegate owners can continue to vote on own delegate servers (with different wallets ), and because they get forging reward they can use some of it for votes. As a result, they are at a given time no more to beat. So the rich become richer...and about a few years they control the 101 delegates. am honest, what are 101 server now worldwide, that means nothing, which is not even one per country! Like always... this is how a DPoS algo/system works, if someone will buy a lot of lisk they can setup his own 101 delegates and start to forging. You can't block him ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . And 101 delegate servers is not decentralized, we own a hosting company and with almost 0 costs we can start 300 independent delegates in 6 hours... We do not have sufficient Lisk to vote and start our own delegate server, but otherwise we were able to control the 101 network from the early beginning. and if we technically can do this ... others with enough LISK ico, will surely run this scenario.
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May 22, 2016, 10:56:53 AM |
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until the network is stable I really dont care who drives it. The important thing for me is my bapp shop to work without problem.
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May 22, 2016, 11:00:36 AM |
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The LISK delegate system is a little bit unfair.. What do you think? Lisk delegate owners can continue to vote on own delegate servers (with different wallets ), and because they get forging reward they can use some of it for votes. As a result, they are at a given time no more to beat. So the rich become richer...and about a few years they control the 101 delegates. am honest, what are 101 server now worldwide, that means nothing, which is not even one per country! Like always... this is how a DPoS algo/system works, if someone will buy a lot of lisk they can setup his own 101 delegates and start to forging. You can't block him ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . And 101 delegate servers is not decentralized, we own a hosting company and with almost 0 costs we can start 300 independent delegates in 6 hours... We do not have sufficient Lisk to vote and start our own delegate server, but otherwise we were able to control the 101 network from the early beginning. and if we technically can do this ... others with enough LISK ico, will surely run this scenario. If it's so easy to manipulate votes, go do it. Delegate system is more rigid than you think it would be. I am Delegate myself and those conflict of interest makes healthy competitive ecosystem overall.
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May 22, 2016, 11:18:55 AM |
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The LISK delegate system is a little bit unfair.. What do you think? Lisk delegate owners can continue to vote on own delegate servers (with different wallets ), and because they get forging reward they can use some of it for votes. As a result, they are at a given time no more to beat. So the rich become richer...and about a few years they control the 101 delegates. am honest, what are 101 server now worldwide, that means nothing, which is not even one per country! Like always... this is how a DPoS algo/system works, if someone will buy a lot of lisk they can setup his own 101 delegates and start to forging. You can't block him ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . And 101 delegate servers is not decentralized, we own a hosting company and with almost 0 costs we can start 300 independent delegates in 6 hours... We do not have sufficient Lisk to vote and start our own delegate server, but otherwise we were able to control the 101 network from the early beginning. and if we technically can do this ... others with enough LISK ico, will surely run this scenario. You certainly don't understand the system. You can't "continue to vote on own delegate servers". 1 LSK is 1 vote, you can also only give a vote once to the same delegate. The normal PoS is a "rich get a little bit richer" system, DPoS is a "popular people who provide a great node and have great initiatives get the chance to use their funds" system. Read this: https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-handbooks/DelegateHandbookThanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 22, 2016, 11:37:21 AM |
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The LISK delegate system is a little bit unfair.. What do you think? Lisk delegate owners can continue to vote on own delegate servers (with different wallets ), and because they get forging reward they can use some of it for votes. As a result, they are at a given time no more to beat. So the rich become richer...and about a few years they control the 101 delegates. am honest, what are 101 server now worldwide, that means nothing, which is not even one per country! Like always... this is how a DPoS algo/system works, if someone will buy a lot of lisk they can setup his own 101 delegates and start to forging. You can't block him ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . And 101 delegate servers is not decentralized, we own a hosting company and with almost 0 costs we can start 300 independent delegates in 6 hours... We do not have sufficient Lisk to vote and start our own delegate server, but otherwise we were able to control the 101 network from the early beginning. and if we technically can do this ... others with enough LISK ico, will surely run this scenario. You certainly don't understand the system. You can't "continue to vote on own delegate servers". 1 LSK is 1 vote, you can also only give a vote once to the same delegate. The normal PoS is a "rich get a little bit richer" system, DPoS is a "popular people who provide a great node and have great initiatives get the chance to use their funds" system. Read this: https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-handbooks/DelegateHandbookThanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) an other question. i voted for delegate A. a few weeks later i think delegate A is rubbish. what can i do? can i make a vote disappear? and give it to delegate B afterwards?
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May 22, 2016, 11:42:24 AM |
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is it true max kordek is planning a new project with the DOA ?
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May 22, 2016, 11:45:54 AM |
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The LISK delegate system is a little bit unfair.. What do you think? Lisk delegate owners can continue to vote on own delegate servers (with different wallets ), and because they get forging reward they can use some of it for votes. As a result, they are at a given time no more to beat. So the rich become richer...and about a few years they control the 101 delegates. am honest, what are 101 server now worldwide, that means nothing, which is not even one per country! Like always... this is how a DPoS algo/system works, if someone will buy a lot of lisk they can setup his own 101 delegates and start to forging. You can't block him ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . And 101 delegate servers is not decentralized, we own a hosting company and with almost 0 costs we can start 300 independent delegates in 6 hours... We do not have sufficient Lisk to vote and start our own delegate server, but otherwise we were able to control the 101 network from the early beginning. and if we technically can do this ... others with enough LISK ico, will surely run this scenario. You certainly don't understand the system. You can't "continue to vote on own delegate servers". 1 LSK is 1 vote, you can also only give a vote once to the same delegate. The normal PoS is a "rich get a little bit richer" system, DPoS is a "popular people who provide a great node and have great initiatives get the chance to use their funds" system. Read this: https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-handbooks/DelegateHandbookThanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I understand that i cannot vote 10 times from one wallet. Okay, and what for example i own 100 wallets, each balance of 1 LSK (different IP address is no problem)? Than i can vote 100x on the same delegate?
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May 22, 2016, 11:46:52 AM |
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For another view on the price.
The following is a list of fees for different types of transactions:
0.1 LISK of amount sent for a spend transaction 5 LISK for registering a second passphrase 100 LISK for registering a username 100 LISK for registering as a delegate 1 LISK to add a contact 500 LISK to register a dapp 5 LISK per member for registering a multi-signature group.
That means, if lisk hit 5usd/1 lisk Then it would cost 2500 to register a dapp on the blockchain. That means, if lisk hit 10usd/1 lisk Then it would cost 5000usd to register a dapp on the blockchain. That means, if lisk hit 25usd/1 lisk Then it would cost 12500usd to register a dapp on the blockchain.
How many developers of dapps are willing to pay those prices?
If lisk should fly, and get big over time, either these prices should be adjusted, or the price of lisk should be low. I hope the developers will lower these prices though. Because it would give better value for the developers to get into lisk. And will get the price to go up for the investors.
Im an investor my self, and want all the best for lisk. But we need to have a realistic view on these things
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