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January 31, 2016, 01:01:20 AM
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List of altcoins using a second tier such as Masternodes, by market cap

Dash - Masternodes
Spreadcoin - Servicenodes
BitCredit - Bank Nodes
Crave
Sling
MasterMint
Amsterdam Coin
CryptBit
NodesForAll
iCash
NEM
Transfer
Gridmaster
CryptoSpots
LIMX
ShellCoin
Vibranium
Eclipse ECP
Pharma
Vanillacoin
Blitz

Let me know of any others.
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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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Vanillacoin - Incentive Nodes (3rd tier) Cool

http://vanillacoin.net/wiki/Technologies/Node%20Incentives.md

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January 31, 2016, 12:12:01 PM
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List of altcoins using a second tier such as Masternodes, by market cap

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Bitcoin
...

Let me know of any others.

Spurious inclusion or inside knowledge?

I have an interest in creating such list (because DOACC). I'll publish as complete a list as I can assemble (at least for those alts which still have accessible code repositories).


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List of altcoins using a second tier such as Masternodes, by market cap

...
Bitcoin
...

Let me know of any others.

Spurious inclusion or inside knowledge?

I have an interest in creating such list (because DOACC). I'll publish as complete a list as I can assemble (at least for those alts which still have accessible code repositories).


Cheers

Graham


I hate auto-in-correct. Lol
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What do you mean by a 2nd tier exactly?  And what does this 2nd tier really do?  

NEM was built with two tiers of architecture from day one with each part always being completely separate.  These two parts are servers and wallets.

The network of nodes have two tiers too though.  Regular nodes people run from home to harvest fees from making blocks based off of their PoI, and Supernodes which are nodes that may or may not harvest fees from making blocks (but in reality all do), and get additional fees paid to them for being high performance nodes.  http://supernodes.nem.io/

So the point of the super nodes are to secure a network with high bandwidth for all light clients.  NEM's lightwallet is written in 100% Javascript and run as single html file.  It needs some servers to connect to though so that is where Supernodes come in.  

All transactions can be performed via API in NEM, and of course lots of other things have APIs too.  And any 3rd party light client can communicate with any node (not just super nodes but any node) do do any API for any transaction always for free.  

NEM has an Android App and iOS app that are fully functional but in the last days of testing before official release to compliment the light wallet.  

Each NEM Supernode additionally acts as a web wallet provider for anybody that has made a pass phrase wallet.  These can be accessed via any web browser.  


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What do you mean by a 2nd tier exactly?  And what does this 2nd tier really do?

Terminology is all over the place (thanks to eduffield), afaict the most general term is ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network


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What do you mean by a 2nd tier exactly?  And what does this 2nd tier really do?

Terminology is all over the place (thanks to eduffield), afaict the most general term is ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network


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Hi Graham,

So I looked into it.  First of all, Evan is a genius.  I love all the things that he is doing on Dash.  By 2nd tier on Dash, it is the masternodes that are servicing APIs and special services.

The problem is that Dash started out as a fork of Bitcoin and Bitcoin code is shit for things like APIs so Evan built a network on top of it, which was great and something that nobody else has done in crypto, seriously.  In Bitcoin Coinbase has its own API, Bitpay has its own API, Blockchain.info has its own API and each small business building on Bitcoin just chooses one and it can't play well with any other company using a different API.  Evan is building a universal API so that people can connect to Masternodes for some of the transactions on Dash.  So now any company wanting to build on Dash can play with other companies.  As far as Bitcoin typish coins go, that is awesome and a huge improvement. To fund the masternodes though, to access those APIs small fees have to be paid to the masternodes.  

But.... NEM has a new architecture built from scratch which took care of this problem.  In NEM ALL wallets are light all the time and any wallet can access any node for any transaction safely and securely.  All API calls are also free, always.  

Let me just say NEM just didn't fix the API issue but a slew of other problems from the very first block.  It has addressed other issues with centralization of mining, making a 2.0 multisig that just works how you think (again with APIs and not Coinbase using their version and Blockchain.info using a diffrent one) with a lot more utility.  NEM also has names as domains 3 levels deep, assets that are highly configurable by so many criterion, messages on chain in normal, encrypted, and hex formats, a node reputation system to make sure only honest nodes are listened to, spam protection and so much more.  

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Readers after puking up your coffee too, I suggest framing this statement and hanging it on the wall, as a reminder when looking back some year or two from now and see how this turned out.

First of all, Evan is a genius.

 Huh

I guess it takes one to know one.  Cry

(never mind the well documented premine and reduction of the future coin supply fraud Evan is alleged to have done, just focus on your claim of his polymath abilities)

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Readers after puking up your coffee too, I suggest framing this statement and hanging it on the wall, as a reminder when looking back some year or two from now and see how this turned out.

First of all, Evan is a genius.

 Huh

I guess it takes one to know one.  Cry

(never mind the well documented premine and reduction of the future coin supply fraud Evan is alleged to have done, just focus on your claim of his polymath abilities)
However good Evan is I tend to think all the suspect looking stuff will come back to haunt Dash if it ever tries to go mainstream
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What do you mean by a 2nd tier exactly?  And what does this 2nd tier really do?

Terminology is all over the place (thanks to eduffield), afaict the most general term is ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network


Cheers

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Hi Graham,

So I looked into it.  First of all, Evan is a genius.  I love all the things that he is doing on Dash.  By 2nd tier on Dash, it is the masternodes that are servicing APIs and special services.

The problem is that Dash started out as a fork of Bitcoin and Bitcoin code is shit for things like APIs so Evan built a network on top of it, which was great and something that nobody else has done in crypto, seriously.  In Bitcoin Coinbase has its own API, Bitpay has its own API, Blockchain.info has its own API and each small business building on Bitcoin just chooses one and it can't play well with any other company using a different API.  Evan is building a universal API so that people can connect to Masternodes for some of the transactions on Dash.  So now any company wanting to build on Dash can play with other companies.  As far as Bitcoin typish coins go, that is awesome and a huge improvement. To fund the masternodes though, to access those APIs small fees have to be paid to the masternodes.  

But.... NEM has a new architecture built from scratch which took care of this problem.  In NEM ALL wallets are light all the time and any wallet can access any node for any transaction safely and securely.  All API calls are also free, always.  

Let me just say NEM just didn't fix the API issue but a slew of other problems from the very first block.  It has addressed other issues with centralization of mining, making a 2.0 multisig that just works how you think (again with APIs and not Coinbase using their version and Blockchain.info using a diffrent one) with a lot more utility.  NEM also has names as domains 3 levels deep, assets that are highly configurable by so many criterion, messages on chain in normal, encrypted, and hex formats, a node reputation system to make sure only honest nodes are listened to, spam protection and so much more.  

Dont the Miners pay the Fee for the Masternodes by sharing some % of the blockreward... Those Nodes get payed even if they do nothing....
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However good Evan is I tend to think all the suspect looking stuff will come back to haunt Dash if it ever tries to go mainstream

I wouldn't worry about it ever trying. The game is mine the speculators with images of soda machines decorated with Photoshopped Dash logos and other polymath achievements.

Edit: note Evan has other programmers working with him, so I don't know if we can attribute all of Dash's development to Evan.

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I'll publish as complete a list as I can assemble (at least for those alts which still have accessible code repositories).

I'll beg forgiveness for an unedited list ...

Code:
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      "darksendconfig.ui",
      "edgenodeconfigdialog.ui",
      "i2poptionswidget.ui",
      "masternodemanager.ui",
      "richlist.ui",
      "sendmessagesdialog.ui",
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      "adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.ui",
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      "masternodemanager.ui",
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      "adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.ui",
      "darksendconfig.ui",
      "masternodemanager.ui",
      "sendmessagesdialog.ui",
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      "darksendconfig.ui",
      "masternodemanager.ui",
      "sendmessagesdialog.ui",
      "sendmessagesentry.ui"
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    "Genius",
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      "addeditadrenalinenode.ui",
      "adrenalinenodeconfigdialog.ui",
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}

The list uses just the uuid4 part of the coin's DOACC id, resolve with:

https://minkiz.co/resource/Cryptocurrency/Did <- note the “D” prefix

e.g. https://minkiz.co/resource/Cryptocurrency/Ded94998c-b1d2-4938-8716-bfd24df297e3

I'll add a proper rendering on Minkiz in a day or two.

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What do you mean by a 2nd tier exactly?  And what does this 2nd tier really do?

Terminology is all over the place (thanks to eduffield), afaict the most general term is ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network


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As i understand it, any p2p network is an overlay network and the term is generally used to describe how different networks fit together.

Multi-tier in p2p nomenclature is referring to a 3rd generation P2P network architecture where a greater responsibility is assigned to more capable peers.

e.g. in p2p communications https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10983/what-are-p2p-communications

e.g. in p2p file sharing http://www.igi-global.com/dictionary/third-generation-p2p-systems/30024
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However good Evan is I tend to think all the suspect looking stuff will come back to haunt Dash if it ever tries to go mainstream

I wouldn't worry about it ever trying. The game is mine the speculators with images of soda machines decorated with Photoshopped Dash logos and other polymath achievements.

Edit: note Evan has other programmers working with him, so I don't know if we can attribute all of Dash's development to Evan.

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However good Evan is I tend to think all the suspect looking stuff will come back to haunt Dash if it ever tries to go mainstream

I wouldn't worry about it ever trying. The game is mine the speculators with images of soda machines decorated with Photoshopped Dash logos and other polymath achievements.

Edit: note Evan has other programmers working with him, so I don't know if we can attribute all of Dash's development to Evan.

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Terminology is all over the place (thanks to eduffield), afaict the most general term is ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network

There's nothing wrong with the terminology, it's perfectly fine.

The Dash network comprises network nodes running exactly the same software but some of which have a flag set which allows them to operate in a complimentary role. The nodes are on the same network, understanding the same protocol, it's just that their roles are diversified. They are therefore adequately described as "tiered" in logic terms. (Other established examples include database application networks where the 'nodes' functionality is diversified into complimentary tiers to achieve a common end).

An "overlay network" is a completely different thing - a distinct infrastructure for whom the subordinate ones may even be transparent. TCP/IP doesn't understand or care about analogue voice signals. VOPI doesn't understand packets etc.
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List of altcoins using a second tier such as Masternodes, by market cap

...
Bitcoin
...

Let me know of any others.

Spurious inclusion or inside knowledge?

I have an interest in creating such list (because DOACC). I'll publish as complete a list as I can assemble (at least for those alts which still have accessible code repositories).


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Are you using the GenesisExtractor?



https://github.com/servicenodes/genesisextractor
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... I'll publish as complete a list as I can assemble (at least for those alts which still have accessible code repositories).

Are you using the GenesisExtractor?

https://github.com/servicenodes/genesisextractor

No, I'm simply passing the listing of src/qt/forms through grep for *node.ui and filtering the results by eye.

The above is a first approximation anyway - the listing is stashed in the db so I can refine the pattern-matching.

Some additional filtering of the contents of src/qt/forms allows some basic “feature detection” inferences, the uncontentious blockbrowser.ui suggests, well - (the code for) the GUI includes a block explorer page.

Which, when iteratively applied, leads to the beginnings of a feature list for (initially) the top 250 marketcap PoS coins:

https://minkiz.co/coin/cmcap-pos

In the context of the data extracted by the genesisextractor, I have an interest in recording the pchMessageStart string as part of the DOACC metadata, I'm keen to start using my expanded version of Melvin Carvalho's CCY technical cryptocurrency ontology which has relations for modelling exactly these technical aspects of a cryptocurrency and so the whole lot can be published as open source in RDF, amenable to SPARQL querying.

So I also developed some patterns to extract pchMessageStart strings, p2p and rpc ports, genesis block hash, merkle root hash, nonce, ntime, nbits and the various key variables. Of course, that's just what's in the default repos and, as I remind myself constantly, the map is not the territory so I'm not entirely sure that the results can be of much use with the genesisextractor other than an informal cross-check, if that.

But, with respect to pchMessageStart strings (aka “magicbytes”), the existence of duplicates has been known for a while (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202764.msg2122560#msg2122560) but I hadn't been able to sense of the overall picture until I was able process them.

The tabular listing (at the above link) includes the extracted pchMessageStart string. Unique values are printed in white, duplicates are grouped by colour.

I'm working on the PoW version.

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Terminology is all over the place (thanks to eduffield), afaict the most general term is ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlay_network

There's nothing wrong with the terminology, it's perfectly fine.

Except that it is neato technobabble that doesn't speak to the fundamental design flaws and Sybil attacked (given the insiders own most of the coins) masternode economics in Dash-o-scam.

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