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January 05, 2013, 05:41:21 AM
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Introducing BitBet, the Bitcoin betting site. (There's also an FAQ.)

Chief points:

Site will be listed on MPEx, under the ticker S.BBET. You can read all the details there, but basically it's an equal partnership between MP & Matic Kočevar (aka kakobrekla). The IPO will start Friday, January 11th at 0:00 GMT, with a 10,000 share block (0.1%) asking 1000 satoshi per share. Each time a block is sold out a new one of equal size will be placed at a price 3% higher (rounded upwards). Once 300 such blocks have placed the IPO is complete.

Leading affiliate system. To quote from the FAQ,

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Could I become an affiliate?

Sure. Simply send traffic to any link on bitbet.us adding ?ref=1YourBtcAddress at the end of the link. You will be credited 1% of all deposits made by anyone you refer for 30 days (normal cookie identification).

Add links to bets in your forum signatures, blog articles, wherever and get the BTC straight to your wallet.

You make BTC just by submitting acceptable bets. Each new bet has a 0.1 (or more) BTC betting pool which upon approval will be split between Yes and No sides. You are automatically allocated the smaller side (as an incentive to make balanced bets). This way, every time a bet you proposed is closed you earn some BTC. Please review the FAQ and only submit meaningful, interesting bets.

Any questions? Ask away!

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January 05, 2013, 02:40:25 PM
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Introducing BitBet, the Bitcoin betting site. (There's also an FAQ.)

Chief points:

Site will be listed on MPEx, under the ticker S.BBET. You can read all the details there, but basically it's an equal partnership between MP & Matic Kočevar (aka kakobrekla). The IPO will start Friday, January 11th at 0:00 GMT, with a 10,000 share block (0.1%) asking 1000 satoshi per share. Each time a block is sold out a new one of equal size will be placed at a price 3% higher (rounded upwards). Once 300 such blocks have placed the IPO is complete.



Can you be more specific as to how the IPO share allocation will work with respect to buy orders placed before Jan 11?  Is it based on time of order placement priority, proportional distribution to all valid orders, lotto system?

i.e, does the first person who placed a buy order for 10,000 shares @ 1000 satoshi / share get 100% of the first block allocation?  Or do all orders in before Jan 11 that are >= 1000 satoshi / share get a weighted proportion of the first block allocation?  What about the second block?  

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January 05, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
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Can you be more specific as to how the IPO share allocation will work with respect to buy orders placed before Jan 11?  Is it based on time of order placement priority, proportional distribution to all valid orders, lotto system?

i.e, does the first person who placed a buy order for 10,000 shares @ 1000 satoshi / share get 100% of the first block allocation?  Or do all orders in before Jan 11 that are >= 1000 satoshi / share get a weighted proportion of the first block allocation?  What about the second block?  

Neither. On the 11th when IPO starts, shares will be sold into the highest block of bids, and this will continue until morale improves.

(I mean, until the price offered on the bid side is lower than the price of the block then current on the ask side).

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January 06, 2013, 06:40:52 AM
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1000 Satoshi is...? Huh

BTC0.001???

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January 06, 2013, 08:48:12 AM
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1 Satoshi is 0,00000001 BTC

1000 Satoshis is 0,0001 BTC

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January 06, 2013, 10:56:17 AM
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Oh great, as if I didn't already waste enough of my work days gambling.
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January 06, 2013, 02:19:55 PM
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1 Satoshi is 0,00000001 BTC

1000 Satoshis is 0,0001 BTC

Curious if this will result in complaints that shares are being sold too cheap, to go with the complaints about S.DICE being too expensive at 32 or w/e it was back in August.

Oh great, as if I didn't already waste enough of my work days gambling.

Don't work your gamble I mean gamble your workday away!

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January 10, 2013, 07:12:54 AM
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BitBet is like NakaBot trying to get into the established market of SatoshiDICE.

In other words, it's going to fail.
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January 10, 2013, 11:04:06 PM
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Last minute release, some financials etc. IPO to start in about one hour.

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January 11, 2013, 12:25:09 AM
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You should really get the financial statements and releases marked as free articles so that people can read more than a few of them each week.

Interesting IPO, by the way.  It was pretty obvious which guys had done their math up front, but I wasn't expecting it to get anywhere near 1.03177.

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January 11, 2013, 08:25:48 AM
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You should really get the financial statements and releases marked as free articles so that people can read more than a few of them each week.

Interesting IPO, by the way.  It was pretty obvious which guys had done their math up front, but I wasn't expecting it to get anywhere near 1.03177.

I don't think anyone did. At least not as far as I know.

Anyway: Trilema allows five free reads a week. In general this should be enough for anyone to read such announcements for free (in the average month there's the MPOE statement, that's one, and possibly a couple others such as an IPO, some tech announcement, w/e). Obviously if you use those free credits to read something else you're on the hook, but it's not really proper to say you're being asked to pay for the announcements.

BitBet is like NakaBot trying to get into the established market of SatoshiDICE.

In other words, it's going to fail.

Why are you so invested in this, anyway?

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January 11, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
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You should really get the financial statements and releases marked as free articles so that people can read more than a few of them each week.

Interesting IPO, by the way.  It was pretty obvious which guys had done their math up front, but I wasn't expecting it to get anywhere near 1.03177.

I don't think anyone did. At least not as far as I know.

Anyway: Trilema allows five free reads a week. In general this should be enough for anyone to read such announcements for free (in the average month there's the MPOE statement, that's one, and possibly a couple others such as an IPO, some tech announcement, w/e). Obviously if you use those free credits to read something else you're on the hook, but it's not really proper to say you're being asked to pay for the announcements.

I made the mistake of reading some old financial statements this week.  I guess from now on, I'll just have to make copies of them.  I thought about paying a buck for 1000 credits, but I can't find any mention anywhere of how many credits each article costs.

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January 11, 2013, 10:58:56 PM
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You should really get the financial statements and releases marked as free articles so that people can read more than a few of them each week.

Interesting IPO, by the way.  It was pretty obvious which guys had done their math up front, but I wasn't expecting it to get anywhere near 1.03177.

I don't think anyone did. At least not as far as I know.

Anyway: Trilema allows five free reads a week. In general this should be enough for anyone to read such announcements for free (in the average month there's the MPOE statement, that's one, and possibly a couple others such as an IPO, some tech announcement, w/e). Obviously if you use those free credits to read something else you're on the hook, but it's not really proper to say you're being asked to pay for the announcements.

I made the mistake of reading some old financial statements this week.  I guess from now on, I'll just have to make copies of them.  I thought about paying a buck for 1000 credits, but I can't find any mention anywhere of how many credits each article costs.

1 per article
 I finally caved an bought some credits with my bitbet winnings.
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January 12, 2013, 12:11:41 AM
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I made the mistake of reading some old financial statements this week.  I guess from now on, I'll just have to make copies of them.  I thought about paying a buck for 1000 credits, but I can't find any mention anywhere of how many credits each article costs.

One. I guess it's a little odd that this should be mentioned specifically, but each read costs one credit.

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January 12, 2013, 12:30:40 AM
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XSS vulnerabilities in the search function. Just saying ...
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January 12, 2013, 01:03:26 AM
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XSS vulnerabilities in the search function. Just saying ...

Trilema has a search function?!

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January 12, 2013, 01:10:34 AM
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XSS vulnerabilities in the search function. Just saying ...

Trilema has a search function?!
http://bitbet.us

Edit: Oh you already fixed it. You're welcome  Wink
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January 12, 2013, 08:03:58 AM
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http://bitbet.us

Edit: Oh you already fixed it. You're welcome  Wink

Twas not me, but:

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aha the html break in certian conditions and thats it
js doesnt run
ill fix that in oneliner
there

Possibly worth pointing out that since bitbet doesn't have accounts there's not much value in an XSS exploit even if something did work.

All that aside, your find is appreciated, well done and thank you! Should you wish to bet 1 BTC on something on the house, pm me the address.

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March 02, 2013, 09:44:46 PM
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(There's also an FAQ.)

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What is a bet's weight?
The earlier you bet the more of the total pot you will win in case your side prevails.

What formula do you actually use?

Let's say that I won a bet. I placed A bitcoins on this bet, and the total bitcoins placed on my side was A_sum. The total sum was B bitcoins (the opposite bet was C_sum = B-A_sum bitcoins), and I placed this bet at percentage of time left till end equal to T, expressed as: T= 100%=1.0 is when bet starts, and T=0%=0.0 is when bet ends.

Then what is my reward?

R(A,B,T)= ?


EDIT: question2: how could you possibly not run bitcoind on the server, when you need to make payments back (private key is necessary for that).

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March 02, 2013, 09:56:04 PM
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(There's also an FAQ.)

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What is a bet's weight?
The earlier you bet the more of the total pot you will win in case your side prevails.

What formula do you actually use?

Let's say that I won a bet. I placed A bitcoins on this bet, and the total bitcoins placed on my side was A_sum. The total sum was B bitcoins (the opposite bet was C_sum = B-A_sum bitcoins), and I placed this bet at percentage of time left till end equal to T, expressed as: T= 100%=1.0 is when bet starts, and T=0%=0.0 is when bet ends.

Then what is my reward?

R(A,B,T)= ?


Explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147914.msg1572084#msg1572084

Or in other words, the losers side is split between the winners by coin*weight from which 1% house fee is taken.

EDIT: question2: how could you possibly not run bitcoind on the server, when you need to make payments back (private key is necessary for that).

The site will generate a sendmany command which is used on another computer where the funds are at. Thats why payments are not instant and take a bit to be done.

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