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February 01, 2016, 06:11:12 PM
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Thanks for the trading advice.  Good luck with your investments.
Your welcome, although it wasn't intended as such.  If it was my real investment advice I'd add a 50% weight to gold/silver/farmland/survival items.  Then readiness to move out of crypto alltogether in 2018/19. Brr.... shit will be way too scary by then.
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February 02, 2016, 07:31:28 AM
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Apparently you don't understand that you are talking to someone who is much more astute than you and more so than most of the guys on this forum.
Ooops.  Sorry.  My bad.  I apologize for potentially supporting future implementations of Segwit (after it has been properly vetted and introduced by the incoming developer team - i.e. Classic Development Team) and making it appear that I support its implementation under the current seriously conflicted Core/Blockstream Dev Team, which I do not.

Now please do understand I showed mathematically that the Chinese mining cartel 51% attacked what is essentially what will be Bitcoin Classic.

Bitcoin is dead. Long live Bitcoin!

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February 02, 2016, 08:46:11 AM
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To be honest I don't expect any Fork for the Bitcoin. There is to much money that could be harmed. At the very end there will be a consensus. But probably the Blocksize remains Low und will still give some Stress to the system.

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February 02, 2016, 04:28:39 PM
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The Doge is second cryptocoin after Bitcoin, because of many Doge users. Many sites are using Doge, so it is the fact.  Wink
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February 03, 2016, 09:21:41 AM
Last edit: February 12, 2016, 02:11:13 PM by BitcoinNational
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Is Bitcoin being corrupted right now?

In some ways, yes. The Bitcoin Foundation is trying to establish itself as a central point of Bitcoin through which it can fund and steer development, while at the same time working together with the state and Wall Street. What's going to happen, is that governments will use the Foundation to pressure Bitcoin development in certain directions.Chief scientist and former lead-developer Gavin Andresen is paid by the Bitcoin Foundation, while his friends are the big Bitcoin-corporations. So, naturally, he's more favourable towards their outlook of Bitcoin. And if you look at his actions and decisions...He talks about Bitcoin as a payments-innovation, he developed the payments protocol, and now he's pushing to increase the blocksize limit which would raise the maximum number of transactions on the network at the cost of even further centralization of mining. That is in effect in direct opposition to the idea of Bitcoin as a decentralized, private and uncensored system.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoin-technology-worth-nothing-interview-dark-wallet-front-man-amir-taaki-1412722833

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Does anyone know what the hell is happening?

a) normal_BTC  ... you know no fork!

b) "classicTM"_BTC : classic as in hard forking 'just 2MB' but now with a name that sounds like you're not forking a $7 billion dolliar's decentralized chain

c) CORE ... something about side chains, lightening GMAX stuff ... tradehouse cartel product ... diamond market is controlled by very similar structuring ... https://i.imgur.com/FCqIBSM.gif

d) TX ... Huh ... to lazy to research into that dead turkey ... something giga blocks and normal blocks
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1115016.160
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ilbit/mike_hearn_responds_to_xt_critics/cuiwqv6 nullc

e) ETH ... looks like long term capital saw the 'fork' in the road and dev'd a product that is forkable anytime 51% of the capital decides to add or remove features ... the life boat is already inflated Wink

f) UnLimited ... as in unlimited hardforking?

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But because some transactions that would have been invalid under the old rules would become suddenly valid after, a hard fork requires almost unanimous consensus from every single Bitcoin holder. If consensus is not clearly achieved, miners who lag in adopting to the hard fork may reject certain transactions that would have violated the old rules, while miners who have upgraded proceed to add them to their blocks. The result: two or more chains that coexist within the Bitcoin network, creating confusion among users and wreaking havoc on the price and viability of the network’s future. Gathering the consensus required for a hard fork would be a near Herculean feat—and even then, the highly risky unintended consequences introduced by the change could be far more damaging than the ultimately manageable problem it would aim to address.

http://reason.com/archives/2016/02/02/bitcoin-is-not-dead-but



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XT and Unlimited were failed implementations by Gavin to alter the Bitcoin protocol. Classic is merely the "3rd times a charm" try for this camp, hoping they will rush out a blocksize increase.

and here is that "Rush Out"
https://bitcoinclassic.com/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2016/02/07/double-your-money-looming-hard-fork-uncovers-fatal-bitcoin-flaw/#171f7a233cef
http://www.riddellwilliams.com/blog/articles/post/hard-fork-conspiracy-treacherous

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February 03, 2016, 01:11:40 PM
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im watching intently ...

may get involved ...

#crysx

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February 03, 2016, 01:21:03 PM
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i like Ethereum but even i don't think that ETH is the solution and a replacement for bitcoin. actually i am getting tired of people making ETH bigger than it actually is.

anyways, when all said and done, i will never move from bitcoin to an altcoin i will keep majority at bitcoin forever...

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February 03, 2016, 01:43:23 PM
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anyways, when all said and done, i will never move from bitcoin to an altcoin i will keep majority at bitcoin forever...

I'll bet you will end up moving to an altcoin that is overwhelming more popularly used than Bitcoin.  Lips sealed

It is long odds though.

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February 03, 2016, 02:28:32 PM
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Thanks for the trading advice.  Good luck with your investments.
Your welcome, although it wasn't intended as such.  If it was my real investment advice I'd add a 50% weight to gold/silver/farmland/survival items.  Then readiness to move out of crypto alltogether in 2018/19. Brr.... shit will be way too scary by then.


My head is spinning after read through all these posts. We are going to hear so many opinions until something happens. I am uber new to bitcoin in general.
A lot of this stuff to me being posted seems to spread more fear into the crypto community than any type of clarity.
Just my two cents

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February 04, 2016, 03:36:26 PM
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We are hard forking bitcoin to a 2 MB blocksize limit. Please join us.

Please, Please, Please.

signed,

Developers

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    Gavin Andresen
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    Jeff Garzik
    Peter Rizun

Miners

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    Blockchain.info (Peter Smith)
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    Bitcoin.com
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    Snapcard.io
    Cubits
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    Coinify
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    Bitnet
    BitOasis
    Lamassu
    BlockCypher
    BitQuick.co
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    Coinfinity
    Chronos Crypto

Users

    Olivier Janssens
    Roger Ver
    Peter Ng

 

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February 04, 2016, 04:19:10 PM
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Does anyone know what the hell is happening?

a) normal_BTC  ... you know no fork!

b) "classicTM"_BTC : classic as in hard forking 'just 2MB' but now with a name that sounds like you're not forking a $7 billion dolliar's decentralized chain

c) CORE ... something about side chains, lightening GMAX stuff ... tradehouse cartel product ... diamond market is controlled by very similar structuring

d) TX ... Huh ... to lazy to research into that dead turkey ... something giga blocks and normal blocks
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1115016.160
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ilbit/mike_hearn_responds_to_xt_critics/cuiwqv6 nullc

e) ETH ... looks like long term capital saw the 'fork' in the road and dev'd a product that is forkable anytime 51% of the capital decides to add or remove features ... the life boat is already inflated Wink

f) UnLimited ... as in unlimited hardforking?



nice breakdown.  This helps in understanding more of what is going on.  I am trying to keep up. Huh

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February 06, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
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- Bitcoin Normal
- Bitcoin Core
- Bitcoin Classic
- Bitcoin Unlimited
- ETH (in my opinion is one of these BTC fork offs just more shrewd)

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of the alternatives (ALTs) which are best suited to handle heavy transaction loads?

BTS claims some super capabilities
Digi has always pitched wanting to handle VISA card levels
LTC-Doge combo might have the network hash power

others?

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