The CIA and Bitcoin

[CuntChocula]

I think that if there were any type of information about spying on Bitcoin, then Edward Snowden would've exposed that in his intelligence leaks. After all, he worked for both the CIA and the NSA. And isn't the NSA responsible for the creation of SHA256....  Why no mention from Snowden...? We know damn well they were watching!

Question: If Gavin's meeting with the CIA was so innocuous, why did Satoshi go underground?

Snowden is no turncoat. he's a turnturncoat. Pretending to betray his lizard masters was but a cunning ploy!

[labwork]

Open Source? Public Ledger? CIA doesnt need Gavin for that. There are tons of professionals with that capability now.

I believe the main concern is about the use of bitcoins to fund terrorism. Maybe they are working on some kind of tracker for the transactions...

[franky1]

Open Source? Public Ledger? CIA doesnt need Gavin for that. There are tons of professionals with that capability now.

I believe the main concern is about the use of bitcoins to fund terrorism. Maybe they are working on some kind of tracker for the transactions...

the blockchain is the tracker.. its open to the public. no transaction is hidden.
but bitcoin is not linked to "use by terrorists". i think the bigger threat is paedo's and drug dealers.

no terror plot has been funded via bitcoins.
the paris attack for instance was funded by Euro's. where the terrorists sold their Bar, and bought car rentals using euro's and their weapons were bought through a so called legitimate weapons dealer in america using FIAT.

the London 7-7 bombings were done before bitcoin even existed.
the US 9-11 disasters was also done before bitcoin even existed.

[Mr Felt]

Just to add to the mystery (lots of IBM references up in here  . . . ):

https://web.archive.org/web/20040815153151/http://rpow.net/what.html  (H/T Szabo for digging it up - https://twitter.com/NickSzabo4/status/693905023407788032)

[swogerino]

Open Source? Public Ledger? CIA doesnt need Gavin for that. There are tons of professionals with that capability now.

I think this might be right, they certainly have the staff to know what they need to know.

They already know the information about bitcoin. They want to find ways to get the developers to control bitcoin, more than they can at the current time. Perhaps they wanted more secretive information from Gavin.

[Amph]

Open Source? Public Ledger? CIA doesnt need Gavin for that. There are tons of professionals with that capability now.

I believe the main concern is about the use of bitcoins to fund terrorism. Maybe they are working on some kind of tracker for the transactions...

the blockchain is the tracker.. its open to the public. no transaction is hidden.
but bitcoin is not linked to "use by terrorists". i think the bigger threat is paedo's and drug dealers.

no terror plot has been funded via bitcoins.
the paris attack for instance was funded by Euro's. where the terrorists sold their Bar, and bought car rentals using euro's and their weapons were bought through a so called legitimate weapons dealer in america using FIAT.

the London 7-7 bombings were done before bitcoin even existed.
the US 9-11 disasters was also done before bitcoin even existed.

yeah it traced it's public, but it's pointless if you can not link the address to the owner, isn't it? so it's not transparent as many think

don't get me wrong i like it in this way, i don't want that all the info spread out to everyone

[notbatman]

The Tavistock Institute are the real puppet masters here pulling all the strings from WW2 and Communism to the CIA and MIT. Almost all the problems and corruption in the world today can be traced back to "them".

[chek2fire]

Gavin is a great developer but a crap mind how economical systems works and i am very sure that has nothing to do with this conspiracy theory.
If someone will be an agent of NSA CIA or whatever definitely will be not Gavin or any other bitcoin developer from core or in the other side. To bitcoin developers of course i dint include Hearn. This guy is not a developer but a jerk and a joke.

[Kprawn]

Gavin got scared when he was invited to talk to the CIA, and he spilled the beans.... Satoshi vanish into thin air. {Now THAT is a conspiracy theory}

These things just do not add up... Why would someone just leave 1 000 000 bitcoins {At some stage worth $ 1 000 000 000} 

The CIA visit runs a lot deeper than what we might think... and the Gavin/Hearn team confirms this for me. { Mike's previous employer also have links

to intelligence collection } 

[watashi-kokoto]

Satoshi vanish into thin air. {Now THAT is a conspiracy theory}

I have only possible explaination. CIA hoarded coins and will dump them any day now. So you better sell while you can

[blackraven1425]

The Tavistock Institute are the real puppet masters here pulling all the strings from WW2 and Communism to the CIA and MIT. Almost all the problems and corruption in the world today can be traced back to "them".

Don't you think this kind of conspiracy theory is a bit exaggerated?

As per the CIA investigation, it's kind of obvious they're looking closely into bitcoin technology, since it could be used to move terrorists money around.

[moneyart]

The CIA is very dangerous. It is a terrorist organisation by itself. The fact that they are interested in Bitcoin makes me sad.  They want to destroy this technology.

But how can they destroy it? Maybe this whole forking crap (Bitcoin Classic ....) is an attempt. The weak point of Bitcoin are the developers.

[owm123]

The CIA is very dangerous. It is a terrorist organisation by itself. The fact that they are interested in Bitcoin makes me sad.  They want to destroy this technology.

But how can they destroy it? Maybe this whole forking crap (Bitcoin Classic ....) is an attempt. The weak point of Bitcoin are the developers.

I really doubly that CIA or NSA or any other law enforcement agency wants to destroy bitcoin. Bitcoin is very good for them due to its public-ledger and traceable transactions.

[elizabethqueen]

Gavin Andresen had to go to the CIA and tell them how Bitcoin is working. Does anyone know more?

i am not sure about that,where you got this news?can you tell us the source?and if that was really happen,i think gavin will explain about people worrying from bitcoin,i wish he not talk to much abut bitcoin ugliness

[Goms]

Why would they need to ask Gavin anything on the first place ? I mean they are secret services , they could simply spy on him if you ask me .(It's not like they don't do it and they care about the law and that kind of shit) right?
In my opinion , if they really want to know how Bitcoin is doing or who really created Bitcoin etc ... then they would (If they don't already).

I guess they just aren't bothered to do that spy stuff any more. But he gladly gave up the information. So what's the point of spying on him.

Or maybe they have a different reason for spying on him that is classified and the bitcoin issue might just be by the way side...

[jack1111]

almost they want to know about bitcoin and he can help because he is developer and know a lot about bitcoin .

[talkbitcoin]

i think it is only logical that cia or any other intelligence agency of other countries keep an eye on bitcoin.

just as they are keeping an eye on every other payment processor, money movement, many websites and services and social media,....

[btcltccoins]

i don't believe it that CIA interrupted in bitcoins , if it happened it is a pleasure because bitcoins will be saved behalf of CIA. because CIA is a investigation field and it is against of crimes , so i think that bitcoins field will be saved.

[Junko]

I'm sure the CIA would love to incorporate using bitcoin, if they haven't done so already, into their clandestine activities here and around the world. I'm sure their people know all about the technical aspects of bitcoin with it being open source and all. They probably want Gavin to explain the best ways to go about using bitcoin for their covert schemes and activities without leaving any digital trails and signs or connections that may lead back to themselves.

[Akupuniard]

CIA can use everything as tool for theirs needs, bitcoin can be a tool for fast money transactions on other world's corner or with other destination.