Racism, Freedom of speech and ownership of information

[MysteryMiner]

Now this thread is completely derailed.

Freedom of speech is one of few things that is absolute. In forum that deals with outlawed crypto currency of future, where half-crazy libertarians discuss gun politics, where Chinese sells knockoffs and Rumanian hacker sells hacked accounts. In this same forum discussing the behaviour of niggers and defending my point of view about nationality, race and ancestry, my posts are censored. They were not censored year ago. In same time the fuckwit multiculturalist posts are left victorious. I was calling to delete them too not because i want to censor them, but because one wrong opinion not be left standing victorious over my right opinion!

I consider bringing this forum offline for few hours. If the freedom of speech is selective freedom, then I will select to silence everyone. This will give admins time to think about this issue.

Only time I got deleted here is because I offered DDoS for money. I got PM explaining it and I was told that it will be OK if I offered this for free. In same time posting pictures of tribesman is not allowed! Fuck You hard!

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[Third Way]

he should definitely not reproduce.

I definitely will reproduce white children! White race should not fade away.

Whites invented space flight. Blacks invented gangbang.
All great Renaissance Man were white europeans. Meanwhile blacks were slaves.
Whites invented electricity. Blacks invented how to use electricity to accelerate ganja growth.

A black man invented the carbon filament. A white man put it in his lightbulb.
A black man invented Peanut butter. White kids eat it on white bread.
A black man invented the gas mask. White men invented mustard gas.
The same black man invented the traffic signal. White men blow through it and cause wrecks.

We could go back and forth like this for hours. Let's just not judge people on their skin color, and instead look at their actions, yes?

>Carbon filament
English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain.

Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting.

I like to think I know about light bulbs. But that's all I had to add.  

[myrkul]

>Carbon filament
English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain.

Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting.

That's what I get for using data from a school curriculum website. I stand corrected.

[evolve]

Freedom of speech is one of few things that is absolute. ...

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I consider bringing this forum offline for few hours. If the freedom of speech is selective freedom, then I will select to silence everyone. This will give admins time to think about this issue.

Freedom of speech doesn't apply to privately owned forums.

Good job being an internet tough-guy though.

[MysteryMiner]

Also yes, Evolve I agree with your private forum argument. It's true censorship can be had here as per agreement in using the forum.

Private forum is when it is run on localhost only or have no connection to outside internet. If someone decides to serve something publicly for other internet users to use then it is no more private but public and he have responsibilities. It is like waiting till bus is full of passengers and then deviating from route or starting to touch 16 year old girls just because they are on his private bus!

If it responds to port scan, it is not private.

If he wants to spout racist bullshit, he can take that shit to stormfront or some other neo-nazi hate website.

It is not bullshit, I only told facts. I'm not neo-nazi, I'm traditional national socialist. It is not productive to spend time talking with same minded people on stormfront or similar places. Talking to different minded people and making them to believe my ideology is the productive thing.

[evolve]

Also yes, Evolve I agree with your private forum argument. It's true censorship can be had here as per agreement in using the forum.

Private forum is when it is run on localhost only or have no connection to outside internet. If someone decides to serve something publicly for other internet users to use then it is no more private but public and he have responsibilities. It is like waiting till bus is full of passengers and then deviating from route or starting to touch 16 year old girls just because they are on his private bus!

If it responds to port scan, it is not private.

Bullshit. When you join a forum, you agree to the TOS set by the forums admin and owners.  This forum is owned by Mt.Gox, and they have the right to restrict service in any way they choose.

If you dont like it, open your own forum. Free Market, bitch.

It is not bullshit, I only told facts. I'm not neo-nazi, I'm traditional national socialist. It is not productive to spend time talking with same minded people on stormfront or similar places. Talking to different minded people and making them to believe my ideology is the productive thing.

Facts? Dude, you claimed that "whites" invented electricity....you dont even seem to have a firm grasp on reality, much less facts.

For the record, being a regular nazi isnt any better than being a neo nazi.

[myrkul]

Also yes, Evolve I agree with your private forum argument. It's true censorship can be had here as per agreement in using the forum.

Private forum is when it is run on localhost only or have no connection to outside internet. If someone decides to serve something publicly for other internet users to use then it is no more private but public and he have responsibilities. It is like waiting till bus is full of passengers and then deviating from route or starting to touch 16 year old girls just because they are on his private bus!

If it responds to port scan, it is not private.

So McDonalds, because they open their doors to the public, isn't privately owned? I'm sure they'll be surprised to discover this.

[MysteryMiner]

Bullshit. When you join a forum, you agree to the TOS set by the forums admin and owners.

The ToS are non-applicable in any form by law, at least where I live. They are mandatory and force arbitrary rules that cannot be negotiated case-by-case as required for true contract. Contract can be written paper with optional verification or contract can be mutually agreed with two independent witnesses.

I can create and inject JavaScript dialog box that tells that the user agree to visit me and lick my anus after pressing OK button and the OK button will be the only button available that allows him to proceed to use his computer. He agreed to text shown on computer screen, is he now obligated to find me to voluntary lick my anus? The same with nag screens, ToS and other nuisances that leave no choice and only impede the functioning of internet.

This forum is owned by Mt.Gox, and they have the right to restrict service in any way they choose.

Total bullshit. From whattime it is owned by Mt.Gox? This forum can only be owned by Goatse and probably will.

If you dont like it, open your own forum. Free Market, bitch.

It is a hard challenge to copy whole Bitcointalk database. Hosting it will be an extreme measure but will do it if the forum deviates too much from ideals.

Dude, you claimed that "whites" invented electricity....you dont even seem to have a firm grasp on reality, much less facts.

The electrification of western world was done by white inventors and engineers. If electrification in USA was done by black slaves setting up poles and wires, it does not mean that the inventions were made by negroes. I never told that the electricity was invented like gravity (lol), it existed as fundamental force of nature before being put to use. Sorry English is not my native language and sometimes i find hard to find words to describe something.

For the record, being a regular nazi isnt any better than being a neo nazi.

The worst shit on earth are multiculturalists and liberals. Nazis are the cure, antibiotics for this disease. I hate multiculturalists and contrary to popular belief I don't hate the niggers. I'm just glad we live in different continents.

[MysteryMiner]

So McDonalds, because they open their doors to the public, isn't privately owned? I'm sure they'll be surprised to discover this.

The cyberspace and meatspace operates under different rules because it is fundamentally different. Narrow minded people trying to enforce real life rules and problems in cyberspace are making only problems. You just made yourself fool.

[drakahn]

So McDonalds, because they open their doors to the public, isn't privately owned? I'm sure they'll be surprised to discover this.

The cyberspace and meatspace operates under different rules because it is fundamentally different. Narrow minded people trying to enforce real life rules and problems in cyberspace are making only problems. You just made yourself fool.

Are you claiming this forum is not owned by a private entity?

[Third Way]

Oh no dude, Mcdonalds because I'm johnesin for a burger right now, and I don't like burger king. So I ate a uncooked can of spaghetti noodle.

[MysteryMiner]

Are you claiming this forum is not owned by a private entity?

The physical servers running this forum is owned by pirate entity with no questions. The server chassis, motherboards, CPU chips and so on.

But the information, the intangible part of this forum is owned by people who create them. Information cannot be owned by single entity! Without users and the collective knowledge this forum will be empty and useless.

I put big efforts to write my posts. If my posts are deleted, my work is destroyed. If they are deleted for technical reasons such as to free up memory (640K should be enough), it might be acceptable. If my posts are deleted because some scumbag disagrees with my opinion and even worse he promotes his own wrong one, it is a spit in my face. Or any other users face who got his posts deleted. In real life he will be punched in face. In cyberworld he might end up hacked or goatsed in some other way.

The owners might decide on maintenance works, they have various privileges and so on, but they are the voluntary self-elected servants of people, not the dictators and tyrants who banhammer users for fun or when requested by some faggot. And as a result users need to use self-censorship and work around stupid rules just to get some use of the internet.

[drakahn]

You are free to keep a backup of your writing to post elsewhere... so ... no problem then

[MysteryMiner]

You are free to keep a backup of your writing to post elsewhere... so ... no problem then

As You probably noticed, the forum is special case where threads are interconnected. People interact and the posts without other writings are out-of-context.

Stop defending the usurpation of information!

[myrkul]

I put big efforts to write my posts.

Yes, I can see that.

I have bad news for you: If you don't have an admin login, if you don't pay the server space bills, it's not your forum.

And the people whose forum it is, they make the rules. Not you.

[John (John K.)]

It's one of the forum policies that state we do not condone any crazy stances like racism. Bitcoin is after all an international effort.
You are free to start your own forum and state your own policies there.

Is this a threat? Which group are you affiliated with? From what I've gathered, most groups have an anti-policy against racism.

Hi! We can take this easy. Delete also answers that promote multiculturalism. Otherwise I will start DDoS against bitcointalk.org and github. You probably seen some of my actions against enemies of bitcoin, wikileaks, ED and so on.

[drakahn]

judge skill, not colour

[MysteryMiner]

I have bad news for you: If you don't have an admin login, it's not your forum.

If I get login to admin page, this will become my forum? Probably it will become in my sense, but not in Your narrow minded meatspace bound opinion.

if you don't pay the server space bills, it's not your forum.

Running forum nowadays costs next to nothing. Flat rate high speed connection 35$ per month. Usually I consume about few hundred GB per month. Most of the time the connection is utilized below 10%. Very large forum can be run by dual CPU server based on Pentium4 or similar. Such hardware now often are given for almost free. The electricity can be free too. Yet the forum receives donations and justifies the usurpation of information by server costs! Hypocrites!

And the people whose forum it is, they make the rules. Not you.

They are wrong. They don't make rules. The Suit makes the rules and the sheep faggots follow. They did not ban CP, the Suit banned CP. The same with CC and so on.

[MysteryMiner]

It's one of the forum policies that state we do not condone any crazy stances like racism.

The users opinions not always matches opinions of site operator. This is understandable and OK for most parts of world, except Russia and now probably USA.

Bitcoin is after all an international effort.

International Yes. Internet is international lol. But I suspect there is no niggers working in Bitcoin development team. There must be more niggers than whites because niggers are larger percentage of world population than whites? Why? (I already know the answer!)

You are free to start your own forum and state your own policies there

Already did it numerous times in last 10 years on both clearnet and onion land. Most of time absolute freedom works well with notable exception white nationalist forum long time ago where overwhelming majority users requested stricter rules and banning of multiculturalist accounts.

Is this a threat? Which group are you affiliated with? From what I've gathered, most groups have an anti-policy against racism.

Take it as You prefer. I'm not affiliated with any particular group. I act as I decide. Sometimes (most time) I lurk where various things are coordinated and join in if the cause is just or the price is right. You probably underestimate how diverse people behind Anon are.

[Third Way]

Racist bitcoins would be hella orwellian,
Are you asian? Good at math! +3 BTC
White? 2.5, almost 3 very good!
Are you latino? Oh muy pobre amigo, 1 BTC
Jewish? 20,000,994.5 You make the bank
Black people dont get bitcoins its racist coins.


 or, Classist Bitcoins like, are you proletariat comrade? 2 Bitcoin, Oh you used to own means of production? Fuck you, no bitcoin. PETIT BURGEOUSIE? DISGUSTING! .5 btc