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April 08, 2015, 10:06:38 AM
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When it's possible to order the cards? I prefer it more than the USB stick.
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April 08, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
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When it's possible to order the cards? I prefer it more than the USB stick.

The cards have always been available but they are still a USB device.

https://buy.hardwarewallet.com/hw1shop/

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April 08, 2015, 02:53:46 PM
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I suggest you to use Electrum 2.0 or Multibit beta wallet or GreenAddress. You may also use BTChip API.

Multibit is not integrated yet. We did Mycelium first.

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April 08, 2015, 03:03:23 PM
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When it's possible to order the cards? I prefer it more than the USB stick.

The cards have always been available but they are still a USB device.

https://buy.hardwarewallet.com/hw1shop/

He is maybe talking about Ledger Blue?

https://medium.com/@Ledger/ledger-introduces-a-secure-portable-and-developer-friendly-hardware-wallet-protected-by-stm-s-tech-13c25b113723

I suggest you to use Electrum 2.0 or Multibit beta wallet or GreenAddress. You may also use BTChip API.

Multibit is not integrated yet. We did Mycelium first.

Thanks for the heads up. ETA?

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April 08, 2015, 03:28:15 PM
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Oh. A bit too early then Smiley

Thanks for the heads up. ETA?

I'd say a few weeks. Everything is more or less done on my side regarding physical devices, just need to add support for our upcoming TEE application.

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April 08, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
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@btchip I got an hw1 in the mail. Tried everything and can't get it to work. You prefer troubleshooting here or by email or irc? (or are you even the right person to contact?)

Hi! I maybe able to help you. Can you give more details please?

• Which wallet are you trying to use with HW. 1?
• Which OS?

I suggest you to use Electrum 2.0 or Multibit beta wallet or GreenAddress. You may also use BTChip API.

I'll still email support, but basically greenaddress chrome app doesn't see my hw1 as being connected to have a seed written to it or to create its own entropy.

I then did a firmware upgrade.

I then tried greenaddress again and it didn't work. Since hw1 and ledger are identical after the latest firmware, I tried myledger. It sees the device then later says it's not supported. Support site/faq says this means it was flashed without a "security card" (which I believe is a ledger-specific thing). I tried reflashing with a security card seed but it didn't help.

All was done initially on Linux with chromium (yes I added the udev rules). I then tried everything in Windows 8 with chrome and got the same result.
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April 09, 2015, 04:20:24 AM
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Sorry, the update process is a bit flaky right now. Posting here since it can help other users.

If you want to use it with GreenAddress, don't upgrade yet. The latest changes to support the new firmware have not been merged yet. That should happen soon.

If you upgraded without a Security Card and want to use it with Ledger, you'll need to reset it the hard way. To do that, visit https://fupbeta.hardwarewallet.com/old/ledger - perform an update (without the security card), approve the override, then remove the dongle while the progress bar is moving in the longest "Flashing Application" sequence. Then go back to https://fup.hardwarewallet.com and enter a Security Card ID (that you can print yourself) before uploading.

This will get sorted very soon.

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April 12, 2015, 03:08:59 AM
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Sorry, the update process is a bit flaky right now. Posting here since it can help other users.

If you want to use it with GreenAddress, don't upgrade yet. The latest changes to support the new firmware have not been merged yet. That should happen soon.

If you upgraded without a Security Card and want to use it with Ledger, you'll need to reset it the hard way. To do that, visit https://fupbeta.hardwarewallet.com/old/ledger - perform an update (without the security card), approve the override, then remove the dongle while the progress bar is moving in the longest "Flashing Application" sequence. Then go back to https://fup.hardwarewallet.com and enter a Security Card ID (that you can print yourself) before uploading.

This will get sorted very soon.

This more or less worked. Thanks.
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April 12, 2015, 03:22:10 AM
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Glad to hear that. We'll make it easier for the next updates. Also GreenAddress support is moving forward, on time for the beginning of the week.

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April 12, 2015, 07:31:58 PM
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Sounds good. On the software side the only app I can use is myLedger. I really hope you guys get an android based client working over OTG cable. So far greenbits hasn't worked and greenaddress hasn't worked and I can't get electrum setup with btchip support.


My main use case is for cold storage so I don't have to keep making paper wallets. Being able to withdraw from that without a computer would still be nice though.
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April 13, 2015, 12:45:02 AM
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Sounds good. On the software side the only app I can use is myLedger. I really hope you guys get an android based client working over OTG cable. So far greenbits hasn't worked and greenaddress hasn't worked and I can't get electrum setup with btchip support.

Both should work again with the update. But on a different wallet than the Ledger Wallet application of course.

Mycelium support is also coming, that one will be fully compatible with Ledger Wallet (same addresses derived)

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April 13, 2015, 02:08:51 AM
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Both should work again with the update. But on a different wallet than the Ledger Wallet application of course.


Do you mean greenaddress and greenbits? And do you mean with the next update of the android and chrome apps or update of HW1 firmware?
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April 13, 2015, 02:54:00 AM
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GreenAddress and GreenBits yes. Since they are multisig they operate on a different key hierarchy.

I mean the next update of those apps. The firmware is ok.

Actually, GreenAddress update has been pushed on desktop. So if you create/restore a new wallet with it, you should be able to use it on desktop, then to use it with GreenBits (GreenAddress Android is not pushed yet)

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April 14, 2015, 12:37:13 PM
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GreenAddress and GreenBits yes. Since they are multisig they operate on a different key hierarchy.

I mean the next update of those apps. The firmware is ok.

Actually, GreenAddress update has been pushed on desktop. So if you create/restore a new wallet with it, you should be able to use it on desktop, then to use it with GreenBits (GreenAddress Android is not pushed yet)

Sorry for so many questions, by do you mean greenaddress in chrome store?
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April 15, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
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Yes, GreenAddress in Chrome store. Haven't you tried Electrum? It is easy and it works well.

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April 15, 2015, 11:30:30 AM
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Yes, GreenAddress in Chrome store. Haven't you tried Electrum? It is easy and it works well.

I was unable to get btchip support working.
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April 15, 2015, 11:43:43 AM
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Yes, GreenAddress in Chrome store. Haven't you tried Electrum? It is easy and it works well.

I was unable to get btchip support working.

It works with the older firmware. Apparently the new firmware broke it and Green Address has not updated the app yet to fix what is broken.

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April 15, 2015, 01:10:33 PM
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Been playing around with the newest greenaddress this morning and it works (version 0.0.66, downloaded directly from github).

After initializing with greenaddress, the hw1 then works fine in greenbits.

I then tried to log in with myLedger and it worked, but i think it uses a different address path.

Some questions: are the greenaddress and myLedger accounts/ addresses using the same seed? So that if I wiped then restored the seed, I could restore my addresses and balances on both myLedger and green address? And is the security card used with myLedger separate from the seed and not reset when entering PIN 3 times?
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April 15, 2015, 02:58:38 PM
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It works with the older firmware. Apparently the new firmware broke it and Green Address has not updated the app yet to fix what is broken.

it's ok now, the new GreenAddress version fixes that.

Been playing around with the newest greenaddress this morning and it works (version 0.0.66, downloaded directly from github).

After initializing with greenaddress, the hw1 then works fine in greenbits.

I then tried to log in with myLedger and it worked, but i think it uses a different address path.

Great, good to know everything is fine.

Some questions: are the greenaddress and myLedger accounts/ addresses using the same seed? So that if I wiped then restored the seed, I could restore my addresses and balances on both myLedger and green address? And is the security card used with myLedger separate from the seed and not reset when entering PIN 3 times?

yes to all of that. If you want to change your security card, you either have to reflash the firmware, or to use a user side function which is not properly documented yet - https://ledgerhq.github.io/btchip-doc/bitcoin-technical.html#_set_user_keycard

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April 15, 2015, 04:14:43 PM
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Good to know. So it won't matter if I use greenaddress, myLedger, or the chip itself to generate the entropy and seed?
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