Obama Is Pressed to Open Military Front Against ISIS in Libya

[galdur]

The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters. It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy.

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[galdur]

According to Colonel Peters....

International borders are never completely just. But the degree of injustice they inflict upon those whom frontiers force together or separate makes an enormous difference — often the difference between freedom and oppression, tolerance and atrocity, the rule of law and terrorism, or even peace and war.

The most arbitrary and distorted borders in the world are in Africa and the Middle East. Drawn by self-interested Europeans (who have had sufficient trouble defining their own frontiers), Africa’s borders continue to provoke the deaths of millions of local inhabitants. But the unjust borders in the Middle East — to borrow from Churchill — generate more trouble than can be consumed locally.

While the Middle East has far more problems than dysfunctional borders alone — from cultural stagnation through scandalous inequality to deadly religious extremism — the greatest taboo in striving to understand the region’s comprehensive failure isn’t Islam, but the awful-but-sacrosanct international boundaries worshipped by our own diplomats.

Of course, no adjustment of borders, however draconian, could make every minority in the Middle East happy. In some instances, ethnic and religious groups live intermingled and have intermarried. Elsewhere, reunions based on blood or belief might not prove quite as joyous as their current proponents expect. The boundaries projected in the maps accompanying this article redress the wrongs suffered by the most significant “cheated” population groups, such as the Kurds, Baluch and Arab Shia [Muslims], but still fail to account adequately for Middle Eastern Christians, Bahais, Ismailis, Naqshbandis and many another numerically lesser minorities. And one haunting wrong can never be redressed with a reward of territory: the genocide perpetrated against the Armenians by the dying Ottoman Empire.

Yet, for all the injustices the borders re-imagined here leave unaddressed, without such major boundary revisions, we shall never see a more peaceful Middle East.

Even those who abhor the topic of altering borders would be well-served to engage in an exercise that attempts to conceive a fairer, if still imperfect, amendment of national boundaries between the Bosphorus and the Indus. Accepting that international statecraft has never developed effective tools — short of war — for readjusting faulty borders, a mental effort to grasp the Middle East’s “organic” frontiers nonetheless helps us understand the extent of the difficulties we face and will continue to face. We are dealing with colossal, man-made deformities that will not stop generating hatred and violence until they are corrected.

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899

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[galdur]

The Turkish Protest at NATO’s Military College in Rome
Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters’ map of the “New Middle East” has sparked angry reactions in Turkey. According to Turkish press releases on September 15, 2006 the map of the “New Middle East” was displayed in NATO’s Military College in Rome, Italy. It was additionally reported that Turkish officers were immediately outraged by the presentation of a portioned and segmented Turkey.8 The map received some form of approval from the U.S. National War Academy before it was unveiled in front of NATO officers in Rome......more

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East" (2–2)

http://news.sudanvisiondaily.com/details.html?rsnpid=237498

[MikeGal]

ISIS is advancing amid a low-level civil war, pitting militias and tribes against one another in alliances that defy easy description. Late last month, the country’s displaced government—which is based in the east, while a militia-backed government holds sway in Tripoli—carried out air strikes against two ships off the eastern coast, sinking one that allegedly carried jihadists and weapons. Benghazi is a war zone, where militias loyal to both governments, as well as jihadists, battle daily. Large swatches of the city have been destroyed, and hundreds of civilians have died in the fighting. There is also a regional-proxy-war element to consider. The eastern government is backed by Egypt’s military regime, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates; the Tripoli coalition is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood and backed by Turkey and Qatar.

[jak1]

In Lybia after Gadafi is chaos. Militants from Bengazi now terror all country, and ISIS is there, Boko Haram,,madness. Don't know what Obama will do, but intervention maybe will cause more problems.

[bryant.coleman]

In Lybia after Gadafi is chaos. Militants from Bengazi now terror all country, and ISIS is there, Boko Haram,,madness. Don't know what Obama will do, but intervention maybe will cause more problems.

Arab nations are not suitable for democratic governments. The people give too much preference for religion, over anything else. This is true in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, and all the other Arab nations. Only military dictatorships (just like the one they are having now in Egypt, under Abdel Fattah el-Sisi) can rule these nations and keep them stable.

[yvv]

Yes like Iraq and I heard Turkey and Saudi Arabia also will be divided..that there is some plan to create new states on middle east, create state for Kurds and suni and shiit states

Yes, this is the way to go. And North America also will be divided into Black America, White America, Yellow America and Red America. All American problems will be solved!

[bryant.coleman]

Yes like Iraq and I heard Turkey and Saudi Arabia also will be divided..that there is some plan to create new states on middle east, create state for Kurds and suni and shiit states

Yes, this is the way to go. And North America also will be divided into Black America, White America, Yellow America and Red America. All American problems will be solved!

This is off-topic, but I couldn't refrain myself from posting the reply.

Black America (African Americans) and Red America (Mexicans) are not capable of existing independently, without the White America. Without the revenues and tax money from the White America (and to a certain part, the Yellow America), the Black/Red Americas will disintegrate. 

[galdur]

Well, Obama promised no boots on the ground in Iraq but now there´s thousands in sandals. I wonder how the offensive is going. Any updates?

[yvv]

Yes like Iraq and I heard Turkey and Saudi Arabia also will be divided..that there is some plan to create new states on middle east, create state for Kurds and suni and shiit states

Yes, this is the way to go. And North America also will be divided into Black America, White America, Yellow America and Red America. All American problems will be solved!

This is off-topic, but I couldn't refrain myself from posting the reply.

Black America (African Americans) and Red America (Mexicans) are not capable of existing independently, without the White America. Without the revenues and tax money from the White America (and to a certain part, the Yellow America), the Black/Red Americas will disintegrate.  

Oh, sure they are capable of existing independently without White America. They existed this way for millenia. They should try again.
 

[Vika NSFW]

Is ISIS on the USA list of terrorist Organisations?

[clangtrump]

Why it took so long? Why not take down the financer? More troops would just die.

[bryant.coleman]

Oh, sure they are capable of existing independently without White America. They existed this way for millenia. They should try again.

The United States have always existed under white majority rule. The African Americans have attempted to establish their own autonomies in the 19th century. The colonies in Liberia and Sierra Leone were examples of the failed attempt by the blacks to establish their own independent communities. You can check yourself, the current state of Sierra Leone and Liberia.

[Daniel91]

WASHINGTON — President Obama is being pressed by some of his top national security aides to approve the use of American military power in Libya to open up another front against the Islamic State.

But Mr. Obama, wary of embarking on an intervention in another strife-torn country, has told his aides to redouble their efforts to help form a unity government in Libya at the same time the Pentagon refines its options, which include airstrikes, commando raids or advising vetted Libyan militias on the ground, as Special Operations forces are doing now in eastern Syria. The use of large numbers of American ground troops is not being considered.

The debate, which played out in a meeting Mr. Obama had with his advisers last week, has not yet been resolved, nor have the size or contours of any possible American military involvement been determined.

“The White House just has to decide,” said one senior State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. “The case has been laid out by virtually every department.”

The number of Islamic State fighters in Libya, Pentagon officials said this week, has grown to between 5,000 and 6,500 — more than double the estimate government analysts disclosed last fall. Rather than travel to Iraq or Syria, many new Islamic State recruits from across North Africa have remained in Libya, in militant strongholds along more than 150 miles of Mediterranean coastline near Surt, these officials said.

The top leadership of the Islamic State in Syria has sent half a dozen top lieutenants to Libya to help organize what Western officials consider the most dangerous of the group’s eight global affiliates. In recent months, United States and British Special Operations teams have increased clandestine reconnaissance missions in Libya to identify the militant leaders and map out their networks for possible strikes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/world/africa/isis-libya-us-special-ops.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&hp&_r=0

In my opinion USA already did big mistake because of too rapid withdrawal from Iraq and the late intervention in Syria.
This created the conditions for chaos from which ISIS appeared.
I hope USA will not do the same mistake with Libya.
ISIS trying to create a base for operations in Libya.
If we don't act now, very soon Libya will become another Syria, with strong ISIS, only a hundred kilometers away from Europe.
This can't be allowed, and so Obama must urgently intervene in Libya, before it is too late.

[Vika NSFW]

chaos from which ISIS appeared.

Ohh, why not more the name "Al Qaedah"?
Where is the fight on this USA creation in Afghanistan?

Iraq and Lybia are the states, where USA and NATO have destroyed legitimate governments, and now there is what?

USA needs pay bills to Iraqi, Syrian and Lybia people to destroy their governments and normal living.

[bryant.coleman]

In my opinion USA already did big mistake because of too rapid withdrawal from Iraq and the late intervention in Syria.
This created the conditions for chaos from which ISIS appeared.
I hope USA will not do the same mistake with Libya.

The Americans never learn from their mistakes. They did the mistake in Afghanistan, by supporting the Al Qaeda Islamists against the Soviet red army. They provided the Islamists with Stinger missiles. Then once again, they repeated the mistake in Syria, by supporting the Al Nusra against the regime forces. This time, they are providing the Islamists with TOW missiles.

[yvv]

Oh, sure they are capable of existing independently without White America. They existed this way for millenia. They should try again.

The United States have always existed under white majority rule. The African Americans have attempted to establish their own autonomies in the 19th century. The colonies in Liberia and Sierra Leone were examples of the failed attempt by the blacks to establish their own independent communities. You can check yourself, the current state of Sierra Leone and Liberia.

There was a life in North America before the United States existed. Check the history book.

[bryant.coleman]

There was a life in North America before the United States existed. Check the history book.

I never denied the fact that Native Americans resided in North America before the arrival of the first Europeans. But do you know how they lived? Perhaps you are in need of a few history lessons. This is how they lived before the arrival of the Europeans:



And once the whites are gone, this will be how the Mexicans and the Blacks are going to live.

[yvv]

There was a life in North America before the United States existed. Check the history book.

I never denied the fact that Native Americans resided in North America before the arrival of the first Europeans. But do you know how they lived? Perhaps you are in need of a few history lessons. This is how they lived before the arrival of the Europeans:



And once the whites are gone, this will be how the Mexicans and the Blacks are going to live.

And this will not be your concern, racist bitch. They will live their happy lives without you. Same way they lived before you.

[bryant.coleman]

And this will not be your concern, racist bitch. They will live their happy lives without you. Same way they lived before you.

And I am not concerned, you Negro. It is the least of my concern whether you live in some third world ghetto or in the jungle. Be happy there and don't come to any of the Western nations. Anyway you guys are more suited to the stone age lifestyle. Enjoy all the epidemics and other joys such as polygamy and child marriage.