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February 05, 2016, 05:27:21 PM |
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According to Holly Bible Christians can not hate anyone..No they can look them like people whom they should help to find way to God and light
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Moloch (OP)
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February 05, 2016, 05:47:30 PM |
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God does not exist... The God you worship is merely "the God of the gaps"... meaning, you attribute to God, whatever has not (yet) been explained by science... 1000 years ago, God was responsible for lightning, earthquakes and hurricanes... now that we are more educated, we realize lightning is caused by static electricity in the clouds, earthquakes are caused by shifting of the earth's crust, etc... it is no longer caused by God, because it is no longer a 'gap' in our knowledge... Following this philosophy, your God of the gaps is getting smaller and smaller... less powerful as time progresses, because he is responsible for fewer unexplained events... If you say, "A universe this complex would need to be created by a more complex God"... well then, who created God? Something even more complex? Theists will claim, "Something can't come out of nothing", so where did your God come from? You can't have a creation (God) without a creator (God's dad)... the flaw with Infinite Regress is the first cause...
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February 05, 2016, 06:12:10 PM |
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God does not exist...
"Cause and effect" is real science. "Complex universe" is real science. "Universal entropy" is real science. Combining these three scientific things allows no other way for the universe to exist but by God. The God expressed by these three scientific things is not necessarily the god of any earthly religion. The science doesn't go far enough to explain which god of which religion might be the real one. If the dictionary definitions of the word "God" are changed just enough, the word "God" might no longer be appropriate. Let me say it differently. There is and Entity that made the universe. It is highly intelligent way beyond man. It is supremely powerful and capable, way beyond understanding. The science expressed above proves this. The science doesn't prove much of anything else about this entity. So far, the term "God" fits what science has proven about this Entity.
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Vika NSFW
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February 05, 2016, 07:33:21 PM |
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why is everyone so scared of atheists?
Motheism of Head Brain. Atheists are to close to socialists and communists, and be a communist in USA is just a crime http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/
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February 05, 2016, 10:09:45 PM |
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ANSWER THE QUESTION WITHOUT PREACHING YOUR BULLSHIT YOUR SO BORING WHEN YOU PREACH
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yugo23
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February 05, 2016, 11:33:25 PM |
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why is everyone so scared of atheists?
Motheism of Head Brain. Atheists are to close to socialists and communists, and be a communist in USA is just a crime http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/Ahah! Totally true! Anything close to "redistribution of wealth" is a capital crime in the USA!!! "OMG! You want to take money of the rich to give to the poor? Wtf??? Why not giving them rights if you go this way?!?!"
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February 05, 2016, 11:34:40 PM |
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Don't hate them, just don't want to be in touch with them..have nothing about to talk because their views are totally different
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February 06, 2016, 06:34:47 PM |
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Don't hate them, just don't want to be in touch with them..have nothing about to talk because their views are totally different
Hard to figure which side of the fence you are leaning not that it matters to much. To write off one side of the issue is to go about life with a half cocked idea in ones head. If you are unable to see things from the other side you are really not living a open life. So as a Christian you are not being excepting of a fellow man/women and as atheist you are not allowing open discussion. That said I agree to the point that both sides are locked and if I was to look today,I would say religion is still as powerful as ever. No President can even state he is anything other than Christian in the States and Muslims are increasing in numbers at a pretty good clip. Atheists have always been around and are slowly gaining traction in the public arena. So it looks like a issue for a long time more and will not be solved in this life.
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February 06, 2016, 06:55:32 PM |
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On one hand I'm sad that I haven't thought about this topic myself. On the other somehow I feel it's useless because the christian nuts will come and say a) how much they don't like atheists and that they're bad and b) atheists are bad because they're bad. No, don't try to understand them. Even they don't understand themselves.
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Moloch (OP)
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February 06, 2016, 06:57:09 PM |
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On one hand I'm sad that I haven't thought about this topic myself. On the other somehow I feel it's useless because the christian nuts will come and say a) how much they don't like atheists and that they're bad and b) atheists are bad because they're bad. No, don't try to understand them. Even they don't understand themselves.
Sounds like you have met a few Christians...
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February 06, 2016, 07:00:22 PM |
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It's the bane of my life, my friend. But of course, all the appliances and commodities of modern life that all Christians enjoy, which they enjoy thanks to science are not evil/bad/from the devil. I'd like them to give up all that comes to science, go live in mud huts and use candles for light.
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February 07, 2016, 03:22:22 AM |
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It's the bane of my life, my friend. But of course, all the appliances and commodities of modern life that all Christians enjoy, which they enjoy thanks to science are not evil/bad/from the devil. I'd like them to give up all that comes to science, go live in mud huts and use candles for light.
Oh, how harsh of you. Christians recognize science at least as much as non-Christians and atheists. How do we know? Because Christians know that everything comes from God. Christians don't deny factual science. In fact, Christians embrace factual science. The thing that Christians often don't embrace is non-factual science, namely, science theory. Since many scientists, but mostly amateur scientists and atheists, embrace the non-facts of science theory as though they were facts, it is these people that have the greater religion. Why do science theory believers have the greater religion? Because, as I have shown over and over in the " Why do Atheists hate Religion" thread, and elsewhere, standard science proves that God exists, while believers in science theory often attempt to convince themselves and others that God doesn't exist.
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February 07, 2016, 07:22:18 AM Last edit: February 07, 2016, 07:34:53 AM by Moloch |
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Christians recognize science at least as much as non-Christians and atheists. How do we know?
Yes, we do know that Christians recognize science... When your child has cancer, do you take your kid to the hospital for chemotherapy (science), or pray to God (religion)? In most states, if you pray to God instead of taking your child to the hospital, you go to prison for negligent homicide... for good reason... because God doesn't exist and prayer doesn't cure cancer......science theory...
Why do science theory believers have the greater religion?
In science, theory does not mean hypothesis... Look it up... This is a common tactic from Christians to imply that a scientific theory means hypothesis... only a fool would argue such a case...
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February 07, 2016, 01:02:59 PM |
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It's the bane of my life, my friend. But of course, all the appliances and commodities of modern life that all Christians enjoy, which they enjoy thanks to science are not evil/bad/from the devil. I'd like them to give up all that comes to science, go live in mud huts and use candles for light.
Oh, how harsh of you. Christians recognize science at least as much as non-Christians and atheists. How do we know? Because Christians know that everything comes from God. Christians don't deny factual science. In fact, Christians embrace factual science. The thing that Christians often don't embrace is non-factual science, namely, science theory. Since many scientists, but mostly amateur scientists and atheists, embrace the non-facts of science theory as though they were facts, it is these people that have the greater religion. Why do science theory believers have the greater religion? Because, as I have shown over and over in the " Why do Atheists hate Religion" thread, and elsewhere, standard science proves that God exists, while believers in science theory often attempt to convince themselves and others that God doesn't exist. Actually you're just blowing hot air. You haven't proved anything. Just once I'd like to see something concrete, not just you repeating things other people say and then saying they're wrong. Someone says the sky is blue and then you come along saying things like "and you've just proven that the sky it's green and you believe it". It's like the episode from the twilight zone when people don't understand each other anymore because they're just saying nonsense.
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yugo23
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February 07, 2016, 01:30:36 PM |
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According to Holly Bible Christians can not hate anyone..No they can look them like people whom they should help to find way to God and light
Depends on which part of the Bible. Leviticus is part of the Bible and it's all a question of killing murdering burning alive and shit like that. I'd say it's rather hainous part of the book xD
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February 07, 2016, 03:42:41 PM |
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Christians recognize science at least as much as non-Christians and atheists. How do we know?
Yes, we do know that Christians recognize science... When your child has cancer, do you take your kid to the hospital for chemotherapy (science), or pray to God (religion)? In most states, if you pray to God instead of taking your child to the hospital, you go to prison for negligent homicide... for good reason... because God doesn't exist and prayer doesn't cure cancer......science theory...
Why do science theory believers have the greater religion?
In science, theory does not mean hypothesis... Look it up... This is a common tactic from Christians to imply that a scientific theory means hypothesis... only a fool would argue such a case... When my child gets cancer, it heals automatically, long before anybody knows that he/she has cancer. And then, since the cancer is healed, nobody ever realizes that he/she had cancer. Here is what cancer is: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/nicholas-gonzalez-md-and-trophoblastic-theory-cancerhttp://www.newspringpress.com/troph.htmlhttp://www.westonaprice.org/book-reviews/the-trophoblast-and-the-origins-of-cancer-by-nicholas-gonzalez/
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February 07, 2016, 03:46:26 PM |
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It's the bane of my life, my friend. But of course, all the appliances and commodities of modern life that all Christians enjoy, which they enjoy thanks to science are not evil/bad/from the devil. I'd like them to give up all that comes to science, go live in mud huts and use candles for light.
Oh, how harsh of you. Christians recognize science at least as much as non-Christians and atheists. How do we know? Because Christians know that everything comes from God. Christians don't deny factual science. In fact, Christians embrace factual science. The thing that Christians often don't embrace is non-factual science, namely, science theory. Since many scientists, but mostly amateur scientists and atheists, embrace the non-facts of science theory as though they were facts, it is these people that have the greater religion. Why do science theory believers have the greater religion? Because, as I have shown over and over in the " Why do Atheists hate Religion" thread, and elsewhere, standard science proves that God exists, while believers in science theory often attempt to convince themselves and others that God doesn't exist. Actually you're just blowing hot air. You haven't proved anything. Just once I'd like to see something concrete, not just you repeating things other people say and then saying they're wrong. Someone says the sky is blue and then you come along saying things like "and you've just proven that the sky it's green and you believe it". It's like the episode from the twilight zone when people don't understand each other anymore because they're just saying nonsense. Actually, it is the furnace that blows hot air. I am not out to prove anything. I am simply stating 3 of the things of science that prove God exists. Actually, the sky isn't blue. It simply looks blue at times. Isn't it about time you come out of the Twilight Zone into reality? However, I don't mind if you stay there.
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February 07, 2016, 03:48:42 PM |
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Stating things that exist is not proof for God's existence. Get your head out of that bucket and look at the world the way it really is.
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February 07, 2016, 03:49:34 PM |
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According to Holly Bible Christians can not hate anyone..No they can look them like people whom they should help to find way to God and light
Depends on which part of the Bible. Leviticus is part of the Bible and it's all a question of killing murdering burning alive and shit like that. I'd say it's rather hainous part of the book xD What does violence have to do with hate? God ordered the work to be done, and the Israelites simply carried it out. Just because the Israelites worked hard at it doesn't mean they had any hate. Many people work hard at work and enjoy it.
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February 07, 2016, 03:51:37 PM |
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Stating things that exist is not proof for God's existence. Get your head out of that bucket and look at the world the way it really is.
Stating scientific facts that prove God's existence, is definitely proof of God's existence.
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