When A Super Rich Person Buys A Yacht Do More Africans Suffer?

[babs1975]

You are personally responsible for your own deeds. You buy your luxury things, it is your effort and does not affect anybody who is not directly linked to you.

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[plost24]

there is always a link between human so when a rish man buy someting that he don't need it will affect someone else if he donate the money he spend it will be a help for the humankind

[8up]

of course it does. where do you think are the ressources coming from...

[WhatTheGox]

OP writes:

"How do we know what products are moral to buy?"

That is a problem.  But, as it so complex, don't spend your time worrying about every Made in China T-Shirt, electronic widget, etc.  There are bigger problems to worry about.

Im not saying there are not bigger problems to worry about but what do you think they are?

So to whom is directed the OP?

Well its directed at everyone i guess but do you think the richer you are the more moral responsibility you have when buying things? or everyone is equal?

[sweerty1]

Economy is a zero-sum game. So it definitely shows why Africans are poor.

[yugo23]

You are personally responsible for your own deeds. You buy your luxury things, it is your effort and does not affect anybody who is not directly linked to you.

The important part of this thread is the "not direct" part. You'll always take care of those directly linked to you. But Op tries to suggest that you maybe are also responsible for the not direct consequences.

[OROBTC]

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WhatTheGox

Bigger problems?  I can only offer opinions:

1)  Creeping government (authoritarian) takeover of our liberties and money. .govs are broke and hungry.  Worst risk IMO.

2)  Risk of stupidly getting into more wars.  It has taken me a long time to turn libertarian (from conservative).

3)  Moral bankruptcy / societal disintegration.  Wealth concentration and declining standards of behavior ignite equivalent of civil war.

4)  "Black Swans" -- low-probability, unpredictable but heavy impact events like an EMP, mass terrorism, sudden economic collapse.

[Amph]

of course it does. where do you think are the ressources coming from...

not always, maybe it come from other rich people that are less rich than the richer, a very poor guy after all don't have the money anymore to "pay anyone indirectly" minus himself

we are at the point for some people, where the money they have are all used to no die..

[DaddyMonsi]

If we don't buy products that will not help those who develops and improve the products they are selling which also leads to lay offs. So nothing to worry if you buy a product regardless of where they are from because you are helping those who makes a living by developing products and the labor industry.

[Preclus]

Economy is a zero-sum game. So it definitely shows why Africans are poor.

In a zero sum game, for every gain, there is a equivalent loss.

Let's say my neighbor discovers a cure for cancer and ends up making $50 billion dollars as a result of his discovery.

Does the fact that he made $50 billion dollars make me and the rest of the world poorer?

[Laosai]

If we don't buy products that will not help those who develops and improve the products they are selling which also leads to lay offs. So nothing to worry if you buy a product regardless of where they are from because you are helping those who makes a living by developing products and the labor industry.

That's bit a strange answer. So I can buy anything I want ju_st because it'll help the people who built it? What about the pros and cons?

And you're saying it helps them, but do they deserve it?
I mean Steve Jobs was a complet asshole and an idea stealer. Do I want to help him?

[kpitti]

This is difficult question with good background.
I think it does not matter if this is Very expensive Yacht or just ordinary goods which almost everyone buying daily.

The main question would be, do I know how my decision will impact the others? Do I care about it?
I would start from personal responsibility of using money and goods I have.

[WhatTheGox]

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WhatTheGox

Bigger problems?  I can only offer opinions:

1)  Creeping government (authoritarian) takeover of our liberties and money. .govs are broke and hungry.  Worst risk IMO.

2)  Risk of stupidly getting into more wars.  It has taken me a long time to turn libertarian (from conservative).

3)  Moral bankruptcy / societal disintegration.  Wealth concentration and declining standards of behavior ignite equivalent of civil war.

4)  "Black Swans" -- low-probability, unpredictable but heavy impact events like an EMP, mass terrorism, sudden economic collapse.

Ok fair enough maybe some of those things are a bigger worry i guess it depends who you are.

Economy is a zero-sum game. So it definitely shows why Africans are poor.

In a zero sum game, for every gain, there is a equivalent loss.

Let's say my neighbor discovers a cure for cancer and ends up making $50 billion dollars as a result of his discovery.

Does the fact that he made $50 billion dollars make me and the rest of the world poorer?

The fact that he charges for the cancer cure does make the world more indebted to him vs if he gave the cure away for free or for cheap etc.  Perhaps its a spectrum.

You make a good point though some things seem to actually add to our quality of life as humans and its very easy to see.  Other things dont seem so obvious.

Does anyone find it a little bit messed up with all the knowledge we have in 2016 we cant house and feed the world though? and with almost no complications.

[lrdeoliveira]

Basically.....Do You Have A Moral Responsibility When Buying Things?

On a smaller scale if you buy a certain product more of that product will get produced as a result, does that imprison other people or does it depend on the product? How do we know what products are moral to buy?

I've never bought a yatch, so i can't tell you the truth, basically when i spend my moeny, gained whit my work whitout abusing people i'm not doing a wrong thing

[WhatTheGox]

Basically.....Do You Have A Moral Responsibility When Buying Things?

On a smaller scale if you buy a certain product more of that product will get produced as a result, does that imprison other people or does it depend on the product? How do we know what products are moral to buy?

I've never bought a yatch, so i can't tell you the truth, basically when i spend my moeny, gained whit my work whitout abusing people i'm not doing a wrong thing

So if you worked harder for your money does that give you more of a right to buy whatever you choose?   just asking.

Like is someone is on benefits or has won the lottery (so haven't really "worked hard" for their money) do you think their money shouldn't have the same value as yours?

Im justing asking dont take offence or anything here

[Laosai]

Basically.....Do You Have A Moral Responsibility When Buying Things?

On a smaller scale if you buy a certain product more of that product will get produced as a result, does that imprison other people or does it depend on the product? How do we know what products are moral to buy?

I've never bought a yatch, so i can't tell you the truth, basically when i spend my moeny, gained whit my work whitout abusing people i'm not doing a wrong thing

You think you're not abusing people, it doesn't mean you don't.

Think a bit further your action, or at least your immediate actions.

You probably impact life of strangers on a rather heavy tune with just your buys!

[Kprawn]

When you buy blood diamonds, the Africans might suffer... but a yacht made in any other country other than Africa would not harm them. It might be better for them if

the product was made there, because it would have created some job opportunities. Some countries outsource their workforce from Africa because they are cheaper and

that might be unethical. {The old slave trading} If no child labor is involved, I would say... Go for it... you stimulate the economy by buying stuff, and you create job

opportunities.  

[criptix]

Economy is a zero-sum game. So it definitely shows why Africans are poor.

In a zero sum game, for every gain, there is a equivalent loss.

Let's say my neighbor discovers a cure for cancer and ends up making $50 billion dollars as a result of his discovery.

Does the fact that he made $50 billion dollars make me and the rest of the world poorer?

Where do you think his 50 billion $ comes from?

Someone always has to pay.

[Supercrypt]

This does not matter one bit, the rich will become richer and the poor poorer, life continues regardless. If that rich guy  distributed that money among the poor Africans, I am sure not only will he be helping in a big way but will be more satisfied by doing a humanitarian deed than sipping cocktails in his luxury yacht.

[coinplus]

This does not matter one bit, the rich will become richer and the poor poorer, life continues regardless. If that rich guy  distributed that money among the poor Africans, I am sure not only will he be helping in a big way but will be more satisfied by doing a humanitarian deed than sipping cocktails in his luxury yacht.

Yes the problem in the world today, which divides the rich and poor countries is the distribution of wealth, if we all give a little, it will take a huge impact on the lives of those who has less fortunate.