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February 16, 2016, 10:13:52 PM
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Also, and I'm not trying to be mean here, why necessarily pay with bitcoin? I understand going there for the prices, but still.

Exactly, Bitcoin as a payment system has to die, that notion is ridiculous and no common person will adopt it if we continue with the same song. Bitcoin should be more like gold, and investment where you can store your wealth for new generations. As a payment system it just doesn't make sense when there's credit cards, cash, paypal, etc. Plus you will lose your precious BTC.
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February 17, 2016, 12:37:09 AM
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And why is it worth it to fly to Budapest just for that? Prices must be really, really good and the service top notch...

Oh yeah! Dentists in Budapest are about one third the price of a dentist in Paris, and one fourth on a dentist in Geneva or London. Even when adding hotel and food bills for 6 days (well, I'll stay in a very cheap hotel), I'm expecting to save 1,000 €, so it's definitely worth the trip. Thousands travel to Budapest for dental work every month.

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February 17, 2016, 05:48:29 AM
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im in the u.s. so i doubt that my dentist will accept btc and i dont want to try to convince him ot accept it because i doubt he will change his was to try something new

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February 17, 2016, 06:33:59 AM
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And why is it worth it to fly to Budapest just for that? Prices must be really, really good and the service top notch...

Oh yeah! Dentists in Budapest are about one third the price of a dentist in Paris, and one fourth on a dentist in Geneva or London. Even when adding hotel and food bills for 6 days (well, I'll stay in a very cheap hotel), I'm expecting to save 1,000 €, so it's definitely worth the trip. Thousands travel to Budapest for dental work every month.

Oh that's so nice you are getting your teeth fixed while saving money and having the opportunity to go sightseeing in the meantime.
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February 17, 2016, 07:33:28 AM
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At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
not just dentist,all worker all people should use bitcoin,not just easy and fast,bitcoin will replace cash for someone from all around the world,as you said foreign traveler was so many and have differen currency,and bitcoin will unite it all.

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February 17, 2016, 07:36:27 AM
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You can say, the transaction fees are much lower than with a credit card:D
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February 17, 2016, 08:07:13 AM
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That could be done if he is into bitcoin too.

But if you are going argue just to convince him for that reason, you better ready your fiats so that in any case you can still pay him. Let it go if he wont understand.
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February 17, 2016, 08:15:21 AM
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How exactly do you plan to convince your dentist to accept BTC, unless he s already got required infrastructure?

He can quickly open a free account at Mt. Cryptsy, oh wait...
BitPay was a good suggestion, since the fees are lower than credit cards.

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February 17, 2016, 08:31:06 AM
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i tried also to pay my dentist whit btc, but he didn't accept, so we made a barter of goods like the primitives. It's hard to convince someone to use bitcoin in their business

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February 17, 2016, 11:48:58 PM
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i tried also to pay my dentist whit btc, but he didn't accept, so we made a barter of goods like the primitives. It's hard to convince someone to use bitcoin in their business

Good to know that I'm not the only one. I hope I'll be luckier than you were. I guess I'll talk about the advantage of speed when paying with BTC. Many dentists are being paid by insurances, and they sometimes have to wait several weeks to get the money.

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February 18, 2016, 01:05:36 AM
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my dentist not accept bitcoin. i can just convert it to fiat first for pay my dentist
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February 18, 2016, 01:20:23 AM
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Also, and I'm not trying to be mean here, why necessarily pay with bitcoin? I understand going there for the prices, but still.

If you strike up a conversation about Bitcoin, educate that person and pay with Bitcoin, you are increasing Bitcoin adoption. When Bitcoin adoption spreads, demand for bitcoins increases and the price increases.


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February 24, 2016, 12:09:37 AM
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Well, it was worth trying, but it won't happen. I used my most enthusiastic voice, but my Hungarian dentist had never heard of BTC. With other people waiting, there was simply not enough time to explain, let alone convince about the virtues of the electronic currency. I guess I'll try again next year.

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February 24, 2016, 12:58:38 AM
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For those saying that dentists are this or that and won't accept Bitcoins... There are quite a few who already do, and I remember reading a couple years back about a dentist being one of the first accepting Bitcoin and one of the first people in the medical business doing so. Since I can't link that one (not sure where I read about it), here goes other dentists accepting Bitcoin:

http://bitcoin.travel/listings/emident/ (In Budapest, curiously)
http://www.dcdclinic.org/ (these apparently do too, although no mention of it on their website)
https://meidanklinikka.fi/ (These accept Bitcoin too)

And there's also this

Just searching for dentists+bitcoin gives us some options.

Also, OP, what do you understand by "heavy dental work"? And why is it worth it to fly to Budapest just for that? Prices must be really, really good and the service top notch...

Well, in Europe and USA i think there are doctors who accept bitcoins. But in asia, especially my country it's very rare to find a doctor or dentist who accept bitcoin.
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February 24, 2016, 02:27:27 AM
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You can say, the transaction fees are much lower than with a credit card:D
is it any doctor dentist accepted bitcoin. maybe you could convert to fiat for pay it man
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February 24, 2016, 08:16:03 AM
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You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

If he then spends the bitcoin he is absolutely fine, whichever way you want to try and look at it.

If he sells the bitcoins for cash/fiat via electronic transfer, he should really declare this as income which would be taxable once above his countries threshold, which is of course viewable by gov if done with electronic transfer.

As he can pay himself any amount of bitcoin he pleases in salary as it is NOT money,
it will have absolutely nothing to do with his businesses finances, as it is NOT money.

Accepting bitcoin is the same as accepting buttons for payment, and then paying yourself those buttons.

If he sells his BTC for cash there is also no record of any income, although i doubt this income would be taxable, unless a considerable amount.

in comparison, do you declare any income you receive when you sell your old items ?
i very much doubt it.

selling bitcoin for cash is just the same as selling old toys out the attic.

So... what you are saying is that you are so much of a sheep that you believe anything that the government tells you?  Just because someone in some government office says that Bitcoin isn't a currency doesn't automatically make it so.  It is against their best interest to have some other currency that gives the power to the people rather than the central banks who funds them.
That will be so nice if you can pay tour dentist. But many people doesnt even know what Bitcoin is so it is not so popular.
I hope later in the future that we can all pay with Bitcoin. I think that is faster as well and that is very good for the future.

It will be also nice that you can pay in stores.
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February 24, 2016, 01:06:02 PM
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It's getting close to the end of the month.  I'm looking forward to the outcome of this.  Don't forget to report back and tell us all how it went.  I'm guessing you won't be able to get him to accept bitcoin, but it would be awesome if you do.

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February 24, 2016, 08:16:27 PM
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You can say, the transaction fees are much lower than with a credit card:D
Exactly the transaction fee are too low in bitcoins when compare to the credit cards. Also there is no tax involved in transaction of bitcoins, so doctors/dentist will prefer to get paid in bitcoins.
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February 24, 2016, 11:17:14 PM
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Try to pay and if your dentist accepts payment through bitcoin, it is clear that bitcoin has also got its users in one more field.
Only due to similar initiation as well small scale usage makes bitcoin popular as well make others too to adopt bitcoin.

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February 24, 2016, 11:28:59 PM
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This is such an odd service to pay with BTC with lol. I honestly doubt on this thread, or on Bitcointalk for that matter, has paid a dentist with Bitcoin.
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