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February 11, 2016, 11:52:24 PM
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It seems cloning ETH is getting profitable today. I think more clones are on their way?

Is it complicated to clone? not the usual copy and paste like LTC? else why are there only 3 clones after all of this time?

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February 12, 2016, 02:19:11 AM
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there is. It's called expance. (EXP) poloniex and bittrex last 24 hours $2,274,560  1319.87% increase in 24 hours.

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February 12, 2016, 02:36:02 AM
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ETH is still in the middle of a lot of development. Cloning it now is going to require a lot of major porting if the clone wants to try to keep up with the development.
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February 12, 2016, 02:40:06 AM
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A better question is, why are there so many fucking ETH topics?  Are people making tons of money on this?  Is this thing going to live up to this hype??  Can anything?


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February 12, 2016, 02:49:58 AM
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A better question is, why are there so many fucking ETH topics?  Are people making tons of money on this?  Is this thing going to live up to this hype??  Can anything?

I know right?!  Maybe it's on its way to 50, who knows...

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February 12, 2016, 02:57:41 AM
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A better question is, why are there so many fucking ETH topics?  Are people making tons of money on this?  Is this thing going to live up to this hype??  Can anything?

yes and yes.

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February 12, 2016, 02:59:33 AM
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February 12, 2016, 04:01:13 AM
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A better question is, why are there so many fucking ETH topics?  Are people making tons of money on this?  Is this thing going to live up to this hype??  Can anything?

I know right?!  Maybe it's on its way to 50, who knows...

You're probably right let's just wait and see what happens...
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February 12, 2016, 04:58:49 AM
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Because Ethereum does not work!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13856404#msg13856404

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February 12, 2016, 06:00:58 AM
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Because Ethereum does not work!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361602.msg13856404#msg13856404

Hi, yes, I have heard you mention this before and although I don't fully understand the reason ...my question  should have really said:

Why are there not more eth clones - because from watching EXP it would seem that you can just copy eth and your coin will jump to the top 50 or higher with all the eth hype around right now. I would have though all the ALT cloners would have jumped on to this by now. I can only guess that eth must be more difficult to copy and paste than LTC was?  since there have only been 3 up until now?

I also wonder why none of the coders working on eth have come to this board to discuss with you the issues that you have mentioned regarding their design?

Surely they are aware of this section of the board and would seek to negate any fears their investors could be having due to hearing about this issue with certain parts needing to become centralised to function as they should. Or that's kind of how it sounded to my non technical mind when trying to understand what you were talking about - I could be wrong or perhaps actually that was iota. Although what matters really is that nobody kind of came to disagree. So I am not as confident about it as I was.

The thing that I would have like to have known in simple terms is - is it a problem they can disguise from most for long enough to drive the price up near BTC levels before it is discovered or is it an issue that will become very clear to everyone long before that is possible?
I mean the issue you mentioned with BTC - i guess it was something to do with it will take days to sync on my laptop and force me to remove all my HD brazzers clips from my small ssd drive to even use it? which the normal guy just does not want to do. Thing is  you noticed this years back and if i had listened to you correctly explaining this it could have stopped me investing more and in turn I would be making less.

I know you are not too worried about the money side and are purely pulling apart the logic and coding of each project but for me and some others we just want to know can the tech work enough to provide interest and capital investment enough to fund some development and some spoils for the lucky investors. Not all coders are capable of probably creating something perfect first time so it can be experimental for them to solve issues as they arise. Some can not be solved perhaps and then it is time to start a new project.

I understand with etherium being touted as a work of genius and everyone saying it is a perfect bitcoin killer it would be nice it that was true (not for me because i still have more btc than eth in a big way) and not just non techs getting kind of played along even if the devs know there is a major issue.

So yes, i can only imagine there is some problem with etherium if nobody is able to refute this clearly even though they have had plenty of time. But how big is this issue to end users and those that don't understand this tech 100%. Also if this problem will become apparent to all users and grossly effect their usage of etherium what is the time frame. Is it like BTC will take a few years or will it be much more quickly?

On the other hand it would be good if VB or another top dev on etherium could come here and discuss this issue an d see if you guys can talk it through and see what if anything could be done or not done. If nothing can be done with changes to the current design then the price is going in the wrong direction possibly.

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February 12, 2016, 06:02:35 AM
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It seems cloning ETH is getting profitable today. I think more clones are on their way?

Is it complicated to clone? not the usual copy and paste like LTC? else why are there only 3 clones after all of this time?


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February 12, 2016, 06:05:05 AM
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It seems cloning ETH is getting profitable today. I think more clones are on their way?

Is it complicated to clone? not the usual copy and paste like LTC? else why are there only 3 clones after all of this time?


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February 12, 2016, 06:45:05 AM
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Use ETH to buy Lisk - Smart Contracts / Side Blockchains / Distributed Apps (Dapps) written in JavaScript and run on your own network of $35 Raspberry Pi 2s.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646
shocked you have not been banned for spamming threads.... i see this post from you on every single thread.
naw calm down please, he is developping something no need to stiffle development from reaching some audience.

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February 12, 2016, 08:45:46 AM
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 I can only guess that eth must be more difficult to copy and paste than LTC was?  since there have only been 3 up until now?

Far easier.

1. Rebrand ethereum source with search and replace
2. Modify genesis json file and add it to the repo

That's all.

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February 12, 2016, 09:18:47 AM
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And we all thought those Monero threads were annoying. This is getting to be beyond borderline ridiculous. I know Etherum or what ever it's called hasn't got a working GUI wallet, don't tell me they haven't got a forum either? The relentless spamming is getting worse each week. If i see one more thread i think I'm going to scream
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February 12, 2016, 09:35:32 AM
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I also wonder why none of the coders working on eth have come to this board to discuss with you the issues that you have mentioned regarding their design?

Maybe because it would mess up their alleged scam model  Huh

The thing that I would have like to have known in simple terms is - is it a problem they can disguise from most for long enough to drive the price up near BTC levels before it is discovered or is it an issue that will become very clear to everyone long before that is possible?

I think perhaps the question should be for how long can promoters prevent a small % of the coming bag holders from running to the door.
 
I mean the issue you mentioned with BTC

You mean when I posted near the top price for BTC in 2013 that the block chain scaling Tragedy of the Commons would be the defining issue for Bitcoin.

I don't know how much higher the ETH price can go. Because I don't know how many and what genre of speculators hold it and whether they want to sell for short-term profits or hold long-term.

I don't know to what degree that hiding the truth about Ethereum's technology has impacted that equation.

Not all coders are capable of probably creating something perfect first time so it can be experimental for them to solve issues as they arise.

Yet promoters claim lead developer Vitalik and endorser Nick "Satoshi" Szabo are crypto gods.

I understand with etherium being touted as a work of genius and everyone saying it is a perfect bitcoin killer it would be nice it that was true (not for me because i still have more btc than eth in a big way) and not just non techs getting kind of played along even if the devs know there is a major issue.

Yup the promoters inducing you buy ETH in fear of missing a train. Myself and r0ach are apparently saying that train has no tracks.

Note it is possible that somehow Ethereum can keep the technological truths obscured in technobabble. Unfortunately apparently smooth and the Monero folks didn't understand all scaling issues exhaustively, so they are unable to do their usual dissection of altcoins in the case of Ethereum.

So yes, i can only imagine there is some problem with etherium if nobody is able to refute this clearly even though they have had plenty of time. But how big is this issue to end users and those that don't understand this tech 100%. Also if this problem will become apparent to all users and grossly effect their usage of etherium what is the time frame. Is it like BTC will take a few years or will it be much more quickly?

On the other hand it would be good if VB or another top dev on etherium could come here and discuss this issue an d see if you guys can talk it through and see what if anything could be done or not done. If nothing can be done with changes to the current design then the price is going in the wrong direction possibly.

I don't know for sure. But the level of hype suggests to me that Humpty Dumpty will take a great fall soon enough.

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February 12, 2016, 09:36:47 AM
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I suggest Dogeum.  Grin

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February 12, 2016, 10:36:22 AM
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It seems cloning ETH is getting profitable today. I think more clones are on their way?

Is it complicated to clone? not the usual copy and paste like LTC? else why are there only 3 clones after all of this time?

It's not yet finished. We'll see more clones once there will be a stable release.

Also ETH isn't something what someone can easily clone without considerable coding knowledge As most of the cloners have little actual programming skills and the step-by-step coin cloning guides are not much use here they are waiting for a new howto, I guess Smiley.
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February 12, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
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A better question is, why are there so many fucking ETH topics?  Are people making tons of money on this?  Is this thing going to live up to this hype??  Can anything?

I know right?!  Maybe it's on its way to 50, who knows...

Do you mean $50 per Ethereum? It is possible. The litecoin went to that price range about 2-3 years ago. But it will take time.
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February 12, 2016, 10:55:08 AM
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A better question is, why are there so many fucking ETH topics?  Are people making tons of money on this?  Is this thing going to live up to this hype??  Can anything?

I know right?!  Maybe it's on its way to 50, who knows...

Do you mean $50 per Ethereum? It is possible. The litecoin went to that price range about 2-3 years ago. But it will take time.

I doubt it. Litecoin had some genuine use cases (GPU mining, hedge against Bitcoin, etc), but the truth is coming out now that Ethereum is a lie.

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