GC scammer: Electronics4BTC

[Asulect]

What happened:: Electronics4BTC advertised he had various GCs for sale including Amazon and his account is 3 years old.  Another user posted a report of sucessfully bought a $100 amazon from him.  I then purchased an $100 amazon gc for $50, then the seller said he only had two $200 amazon GC's in stock, but no $100 GC.  He said he can refund or I can send him an addition $40 for a $200 instead.  I sent him an additional $40, then the seller closed the thread and erased his advertisement and stopped responding to my PM's.

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=197585

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361243.msg
Amount Scammed: Lost $90 in bitcoins
Payment Method: Bitcoins
Proof of Payment: first payment https://blockchain.info/tx-index/34493571118543ef68ee0341db5beba0e3547109cac6019374692b5dfc91539d and 2nd payment https://blockchain.info/tx-index/438142f9666794978c71bbca58a17c170a0d26b82c4c097eb2b8505cfcef02b5
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/k7CU5
Additional Notes: Do not buy any GC from him until this dispute is resolved.

[Lutpin]

I hate to say it, but after you've sent him the $50 and he pulled the "I'm sorry, but I just sold it. I got something that is worth more in stock"-trick on you, trying to gain even more coins from you,
didn't get at least a little suspicious?


1kvo38NsLZpTTGQxngpuFjJCtBnpX5fgF seems to be cloudbet.com deposit address (according to walletexplorer).
Another address that deposited into this is 1CvgpjjQoRb56qBVDWQYvnPsUwLUU5yHVn (Transactions here, here and here).
That address is mentioned in a scam accusation against AllGoodsBTC also involving GiftCards here.

[Asulect]

I hate to say it, but after you've sent him the $50 and he pulled the "I'm sorry, but I just sold it. I got something that is worth more in stock"-trick on you, trying to gain even more coins from you,
didn't get at least a little suspicious?


1kvo38NsLZpTTGQxngpuFjJCtBnpX5fgF seems to be cloudbet.com deposit address
Another address that deposited into this is 1CvgpjjQoRb56qBVDWQYvnPsUwLUU5yHVn.
That address is mentioned in a scam accusation against AllGoodsBTC also involving GiftCards here.

It did get suspicious.  I am not sure why I fell for that.  I guess I am someone who have to fail a time or two before I learn.   

[Lutpin]

It did get suspicious.  I am not sure why I fell for that.  I guess I am someone who have to fail a time or two before I learn.    

It's a big sum to pay for an easy lection like that.


Another address depositing into that CloudBet.com address is 1DaYruabXne1kwqreJPgonLbDfvgQ8ACb8 (Transaction here).
That address is also mentioned in a scam accusation against bitcoinelectronics.net, yet again involving GiftCards.


Deposits have also been made from 18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj (Transaction here).
That address is connected throught the transaction 81b2994cda22b706712b82fc6c12be81c25b51a262f39820b291176875d7f018 with the address 1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB.
That address was staked by the user LouisVuitton here:

My address for account recovery is:
1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB
INBulc4JYNSXgt3PolU5DxNMw3lnZExBZp371BCb2hX6eKcuQ86xR+LLA+ozN+LuxgoFpRkpyzCNcFhsepQLmDY=

[Asulect]

It did get suspicious.  I am not sure why I fell for that.  I guess I am someone who have to fail a time or two before I learn.    

It's a big sum to pay for an easy lection like that.


Another address depositing into that CloudBet.com address is 1DaYruabXne1kwqreJPgonLbDfvgQ8ACb8 (Transaction here).
That address is also mentioned in a scam accusation against bitcoinelectronics.net, yet again involving GiftCards.


Deposits have also been made from 18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj (Transaction here).
That address is connected throught the transaction 81b2994cda22b706712b82fc6c12be81c25b51a262f39820b291176875d7f018 with the address 1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB.
That address was staked by the user LouisVuitton here:

My address for account recovery is:
1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB
INBulc4JYNSXgt3PolU5DxNMw3lnZExBZp371BCb2hX6eKcuQ86xR+LLA+ozN+LuxgoFpRkpyzCNcFhsepQLmDY=

What does all these mean?  Is he actively scamming more people with Alts?


Anyway, it may look like a big sum for that lesson, but there are some genuine GCs sellers here.  Buying GCs here is like going to a Casino.  The fact that you can sometime "Win" keeps people coming back for more.   I was able to made some successful trades on some GCs.  The amount I was able to save before was bigger than the amount I just lost.  So, my lost is not so bad after all.  Hopefully, I will actually learn from this.

[Lutpin]

What does all these mean?  Is he actively scamming more people with Alts?

So far, I'm pretty sure that guy scammed at least 2 other times with different accounts.
LouisVuitton might be another victim or somehow involved, I can't say that for sure. But I contacted him and asked him to take a stand regarding this "connection".

Anyway, it may look like a big sum for that lesson, but there are some genuine GCs sellers here.

Besides those who intend to scam you and those who are selling you GC without proper explanation of how they aquired them, that might be a pretty small group.

Hopefully, I will actually learn from this.

Maybe one lesson could be not to buy GCs without proper reciept, and leaving out on those deals you can safe too big, for obvious reasons.

[LouisVuitton]

What does all these mean?  Is he actively scamming more people with Alts?

So far, I'm pretty sure that guy scammed at least 2 other times with different accounts.
LouisVuitton might be another victim or somehow involved, I can't say that for sure. But I contacted him and asked him to take a stand regarding this "connection".

Anyway, it may look like a big sum for that lesson, but there are some genuine GCs sellers here.

Besides those who intend to scam you and those who are selling you GC without proper explanation of how they aquired them, that might be a pretty small group.

Hopefully, I will actually learn from this.

Maybe one lesson could be not to buy GCs without proper reciept, and leaving out on those deals you can safe too big, for obvious reasons.

Hi, thank you for contacting me Lutpin, I am not a scammer and have no idea how my BTC address became involved with this. Did my address send or receive something to the scammers address?

I do sell and buy a lot of Giftcards here, skype, and hackforums.

I could have bought/sold something to the scammer that's the only reason I can think of.

What address did I send/receive from? I'll search my message on here, skype, and hackforums.

[Lutpin]

What address did I send/receive from? I'll search my message on here, skype, and hackforums.

It's basically all explained here:

Deposits have also been made from 18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj (Transaction here).
That address is connected throught the transaction 81b2994cda22b706712b82fc6c12be81c25b51a262f39820b291176875d7f018 with the address 1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB.
That address was staked by the user LouisVuitton here:

My address for account recovery is:
1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB
INBulc4JYNSXgt3PolU5DxNMw3lnZExBZp371BCb2hX6eKcuQ86xR+LLA+ozN+LuxgoFpRkpyzCNcFhsepQLmDY=

18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj deposited coins to 1kvo38NsLZpTTGQxngpuFjJCtBnpX5fgF (ce75db9d5e2451b3556e41c803420ce232116316fb367b99bbeb84fcda2acb5a)
The first is one of your addresses, correct? The latter is one that scammer uses to cover up his trail.

I do sell and buy a lot of Giftcards here, skype, and hackforums.
I could have bought/sold something to the scammer that's the only reason I can think of.

Already suspected something like that.

LouisVuitton might be another victim or somehow involved, I can't say that for sure.

[LouisVuitton]

What address did I send/receive from? I'll search my message on here, skype, and hackforums.

It's basically all explained here:

Deposits have also been made from 18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj (Transaction here).
That address is connected throught the transaction 81b2994cda22b706712b82fc6c12be81c25b51a262f39820b291176875d7f018 with the address 1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB.
That address was staked by the user LouisVuitton here:

My address for account recovery is:
1493chEDk4H6C6s99XyXmwFwaCUQkAWFpB
INBulc4JYNSXgt3PolU5DxNMw3lnZExBZp371BCb2hX6eKcuQ86xR+LLA+ozN+LuxgoFpRkpyzCNcFhsepQLmDY=

18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj deposited coins to 1kvo38NsLZpTTGQxngpuFjJCtBnpX5fgF (ce75db9d5e2451b3556e41c803420ce232116316fb367b99bbeb84fcda2acb5a)
The first is one of your addresses, correct? The latter is one that scammer uses to cover up his trail.

I do sell and buy a lot of Giftcards here, skype, and hackforums.
I could have bought/sold something to the scammer that's the only reason I can think of.

Already suspected something like that.

LouisVuitton might be another victim or somehow involved, I can't say that for sure.

Correct, 18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj is my Blockchain.info address.

[Lutpin]

Correct, 18hcFQb8ojTeVzG7B7VJLZUCxUG4LWEFcj is my Blockchain.info address.

Would you do me the favor and search for the reason you've sent funds to 1kvo38NsLZpTTGQxngpuFjJCtBnpX5fgF.
It's been 0.065189BTC worth $25 back then. Date of the transaction is 2016-02-04

[Asulect]

Besides those who intend to scam you and those who are selling you GC without proper explanation of how they aquired them, that might be a pretty small group.

You are definitely right about this.  Only a pretty small group is legit.

Maybe one lesson could be not to buy GCs without proper reciept, and leaving out on those deals you can safe too big, for obvious reasons.

This is actually something that I don't quite understand.  If someone carded some Giftcards illegally, wouldn't they still have the receipts for the transactions?  How would a receipt help in this case?  It is not like there is somewhere I can look up the credit card he used to buy the GC is a stolen credit card or not.

Secondly, if someone received some GCs as gifts, lets say over Christmas. Wouldn't they be the ones that not able to provide receipts?

Leaving out on deals that I can save too big is definitely a good advice.

[AlphaCatalyst]

I lost $30 to this guy as well... He has been texting me for two days with various excuses as to why he has not sent my giftcard yet.

[LouisVuitton]

Hi guys I traced down the address that I sent the payment to and it was a user on Bitcointalk named AmazonCards. That user scammed me for a $50 Amazon.com code I was purchasing so $25 and it never got delivered.

The scammers skype is coin.gambler

Profile:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=749588

Here are photo of our Skype conversation on February 4th:


http://imgur.com/IyjF81O
http://imgur.com/gOd23MM
http://imgur.com/853DiOw
http://imgur.com/mCJLMKe
http://imgur.com/5a78uqy
http://imgur.com/FPp4fqJ
http://imgur.com/U5ZLniY
http://imgur.com/E7ToOyb
http://imgur.com/MSW4UC9

[james.lent]

When someone sells you something for half the price, you guys should already know that its a scam. Why on earth would someone sell a 100$ gc for 50$ ? *facepalm*

Greed blinds people. Live and learn.

[Lutpin]

Hi guys I traced down the address that I sent the payment to and it was a user on Bitcointalk named AmazonCards. That user scammed me for a $50 Amazon.com code I was purchasing so $25 and it never got delivered.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=749588

Pulled almost the same stunt 4 times. I wonder how many more will pop up in the future.

When someone sells you something for half the price, you guys should already know that its a scam. Why on earth would someone sell a 100$ gc for 50$ ? *facepalm*
Greed blinds people. Live and learn.

That's what I was referring to, when I was talking about "leaving out on those deals you can safe too big, for obvious reasons"

[The Sceptical Chymist]

OP there's not much you can do to recover your funds, but there's hopefully still an outside shot of doing so.  Did you check this moron's feedback before doing the deal?  There are some serious red flags in there that should have made you think twice.  Also even though his account is 3 years old, who knows if it's been sold or whatever.  He's still a Jr. member and is not very active on this forum. 

Be more careful in the future--turn on the paranoia hat when you deal with people here, it may save you some bitcoin.

[gbazsa]

this fucking moron accused me of scamming and he turns out to be a scammer,how unsuprising

[whywefight]

this fucking moron accused me of scamming and he turns out to be a scammer,how unsuprising

You are a scamer or at least are happy about helping others to scam -> http://archive.is/qVJMc

[james.lent]

this fucking moron accused me of scamming and he turns out to be a scammer,how unsuprising

You are a scamer or at least are happy about helping others to scam -> http://archive.is/qVJMc

Lmao, the irony 

[Timelord2067]

It's a big sum to pay for an easy lection like that.


Another address depositing into that CloudBet.com address is 1DaYruabXne1kwqreJPgonLbDfvgQ8ACb8 (Transaction here).
That address is also mentioned in a scam accusation against bitcoinelectronics.net, yet again involving GiftCards.

What does all these mean?  Is he actively scamming more people with Alts?

Anyway, it may look like a big sum for that lesson, but there are some genuine GCs sellers here.  Buying GCs here is like going to a Casino.  The fact that you can sometime "Win" keeps people coming back for more.   I was able to made some successful trades on some GCs.  The amount I was able to save before was bigger than the amount I just lost.  So, my lost is not so bad after all.  Hopefully, I will actually learn from this.

Alaki sends that Wallet Address 1DaYruabXne1kwqreJPgonLbDfvgQ8ACb8 funds today - details here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1391793.msg14720640#msg14720640