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Question: Are you switching or quitting?
I'm switching to BFL - 22 (17.1%)
I'm quitting - 36 (27.9%)
I'm ordering from Avalon after CNY - 17 (13.2%)
I'm staying with bASIC - 11 (8.5%)
I'm waiting to see what companies produce before purchasing - 43 (33.3%)
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January 14, 2013, 07:44:45 PM
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Just a poll to get a sense of what bASIC customers are doing now that the first "due diligence" meeting went south.
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January 14, 2013, 07:51:15 PM
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Where's the option to switch to Avalon?

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January 14, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
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I'm out. At least till there's a tangible product, at which point I shall reassess the situation from first principles.

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January 14, 2013, 07:57:14 PM
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quitting as in not mining any longer?

Im still at a cross roads, not sure what Im going to do just yet.

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January 14, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
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I'm out. At least till there's a tangible product, at which point I shall reassess the situation from first principles.

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January 14, 2013, 08:02:03 PM
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As stated before - if Tom's teeth were on fire, I wouldn't even try to help him out by pissing on his face..

His abortion attempt at the ASIC game was down right hideous.. I would almost welcome DBAG_Josh berating me as a BFL customer than to have dealings with Mr. Tom ever again.

Dave and some other helpful members have managed to keep people updated somewhat along with refund processing.. without them, I couldn't even imagine how things would be playing out right now..

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January 14, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
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Where's the option to switch to Avalon?

Is Avalon taking more orders right now?
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January 14, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
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Where's the option to switch to Avalon?

Is Avalon taking more orders right now?
Nope... But you would add a choice like "I will order from Avalon after new chinese year year".
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January 14, 2013, 08:20:03 PM
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Where's the option to switch to Avalon?

No shit.  The switching to BFL option might as well read "jumping out of the frying pan into the fire."  As it looks (to me) at present.

This whole poll is actually most likely to provide info useful to BFL to decide when to exit stage left.  To the extent that polls on bitcointalk.org have any reliability at all.

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pre-post edit to OP:  make the option be something like "Avalon when possible."

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BTW, for those who are unfamiliar with how at least some of the more successful open-source hardware projects work:  The actual goal is to get out of hardware manufacture and distribution altogether.  What you actually sell is expertise to people who have specific needs and what-not.  If an organization in intimately familiar with all aspects of the project (like because they designed the reference hardware and software) then they are better prepared to deliver on engineering projects and have a lot more legitimacy than some random jerk-off.  This only works well in certain circumstances, and only works if the organization has demonstrable superiority in engineering and reliability.  That ~nzhang guy seems to have some potential here in the mining hardware space.

Of course I have no idea whether this is the path that Avalon wishes to take.  I'll only put some focus on researching them when they demonstrate delivery of a viable ASIC unit.


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January 14, 2013, 08:21:48 PM
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Nope... But you would add a choice like "I will order from Avalon after new chinese year year".

Done.
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January 14, 2013, 08:33:51 PM
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What happen with "I will stay with bASIC" option?
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January 14, 2013, 08:39:54 PM
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What happen with "I will stay with bASIC" option?

I can add that, but it would seem that if the leader of the project cannot show up for one of the most important meeting of BTC FPGA's life, seems kind of pointless to keep up hope.
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January 14, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
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Can you add a "I'm not a bASIC customer, but I'm interested in the results" ?

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January 14, 2013, 09:03:02 PM
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What happen with "I will stay with bASIC" option?

This has been added.
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January 14, 2013, 09:11:11 PM
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Id like to see an option "I wont preorder anything, will see later."

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January 14, 2013, 09:21:06 PM
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Id like to see an option "I wont preorder anything, will see later."

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January 14, 2013, 09:25:46 PM
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I feel bad for defending Tom as long as I did on these forums.... because of me some people might of invested in bASIC instead of Avalon/BFL and are now screwed.

I urge everyone not to overreact. If everyone cancels their orders, I can see Tom having trouble paying everyone back. Keep this in mind... I'd rather get a late ASIC than nothing at all and no refund.
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January 14, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
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Update it with the option to say you have ordered from those 3 you listed.
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January 14, 2013, 09:36:27 PM
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I stayed as long as I could, but this is very upsetting to me. Refund requested. Now it looks like BFL and Avalon.
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January 14, 2013, 09:48:03 PM
Last edit: January 14, 2013, 09:58:14 PM by Bogart
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I had placed orders with Avalon and bASIC.

Now I just have the Avalon order left.  bASIC refunded me, mercifully.

With Avalon a week from shipping, I'm just hoping I don't pee my pants in anticipation waiting for it.

If Avalon delivers and works as promised, I imagine I will be ordering more of them in their next batch.

(I learned about mining ASICs too late to get a reasonable position on the BFL boat, so did not pursue them.)

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