My account SebastianJu banned for 14 days now?

[SebastianJu_alt]

Well, I will be happy when you return to handling escrows.  I feel like I'm the one being punished here.

I'm sorry if it really turns out for you this way. Well, I think 4 big escrows gave up, three totally, one is away and probably will stop escrowing, because of the latest developments with master-P and escrow.ms. I think at some point it will push all their escrow users to the remaining escrows.

Unfortunately it doesn't feel actually great to know that there were scammers that worked in the same service section. :/ I think that is one big reason they gave up.

I don't know how you deny escrows but I created some default text for denying trades. I only add some additional info if it sounds like I should. So denying is a fast thing then.

Then, sold accounts should be left a neutral feedback stating account has been sold/changed ownership. This way, people would be aware of it. Many are buying accounts to scam. Gone were the days when they bought accounts to harvest signature campaigns.

Actually all accounts I escrow seem to end up in a signature campaign even when the buyer is an account flipper first. His buyer will buy for signature campaign. It's he one big thing on the forum that seems to spread around as the best way to earn bitcoins for free.

And it would not really help to mark them. Like Quickseller mentions, if a scammer knows that this will happen then he will trade outside the forum again. So he receives a clean account while all normal users will have a mark that surely will mean a problem for them in one way or another.

I think it won't help against scammers.

If, if, if.

And since when do campaign managers care about neutral trust or whether an account was bought?

I'm not sure if they would care. I think more important are posts that are written in a nearly unreadable english. So that it really sounds like the barely english speaking indian mother of a bitcoin user tries to earn an additional salary.

On the other hand, if it turns out bad accepting those users then an account manager might autoreject those users from then to prevent work.

Though the mark won't help against a clever scammer for sure. And most scammers are clever. Not like master-P with his stories everyone could find out. Even trolls on here are clever and know how to trick the tracking of the forum. I doubt any serious scam could be stopped by marked accounts or forbidden account trades.

The only thing that comes to mind, that is unavoidable for a scammer to do, is the password change. A scammer surely won't trust the seller enough to not change the password. So if there is a list of the last 12 months password changes of that account in the trust page then users might have a slight hint that the account might have changed hands. Surely that is no sure thing but it is the only thing that a scammer can't avoid when buying an account. He will change pass to protect his scamming scheme.

[mexxer-2]

So...? Just heard from someone Sebastian_Alt is escrowing , aren't you supposed to not PM anyone while you're banned? Nevermind, seems he was escrowing via emails

[kingaltcoins]

So a high rep member gets banned for spamming without any warning because he was wearing a signature and this user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557193) is not even banned a day for trolling and using all sorts of referral advertisements.

Just look at his spams and note the time intervals between each posts > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557193;sa=showPosts;start=0

Hmm. Sounds great!

[redsn0w]

So a high rep member gets banned for spamming without any warning because he was wearing a signature and this user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557193) is not even banned a day for trolling and using all sorts of referral advertisements.

Just look at his spams and note the time intervals between each posts > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557193;sa=showPosts;start=0

Hmm. Sounds great!

Report a couple of his posts to the staff .

[Dorrittulx]

Bitcointalk is becoming corrupt!

[Heutenamos]

because you've been burned here.

are you seriously convinced with that ?  like serious seriously ?

I don't need to be convinced of anything. Don't you not know the story, the months of pointless arguing? Some people tend to act like this if they are unable to get their way.

An army attacking an unarmed is not what i call BURNED   keep the stories aside.

23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.

I doubt that many users have actually read the rules at all.

I will engrave them on my gravestone and will respect them until every dead cell of my body is decayed   just because of you Laude.

I do believe there are situations where double and tripple posting is suitable, for example

I never knew that making a thread on every page of the thread is better than making multiple posts in a thread.

And since when do campaign managers care about neutral trust or whether an account was bought?

Assholes don't need a reason to troll.

So...? Just heard from someone Sebastian_Alt is escrowing , aren't you supposed to not PM anyone while you're banned? Nevermind, seems he was escrowing via emails

He is JU , who will stop him ?  

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Use the Past Tense 

[TheNewOne]

It is a shame that Sebastian got banned for this.

[redsn0w]

It is a shame that Sebastian got banned for this.

Nah, the rules... are rules.


The problem here was only the sig ad, nothing else.

[TheNewOne]

It is a shame that Sebastian got banned for this.

Nah, the rules... are rules.


The problem here was only the sig ad, nothing else.

Yes, but a second warning would have been enought. Not a ban.

[-tK]

Yes, but a second warning would have been enought. Not a ban.

Have you tried reading the thread yet? If not, it's a great experience.

SebastianJu, you were temporarily banned because you kept making multiple posts in a row, which that could have been posted in one. You have been warned about this before and having a paid signature doesn't help.

Example 1
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306301.msg13885766#msg13885766
Four consecutive posts that could have been posted in one.

Example 2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13886091#msg13886091
Another 3 consecutive posts.

Example 3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13887359#msg13887359
Another 3 consecutive posts.

Example 4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13890264#msg13890264
Another 2.

Example 5
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359877.msg13890417#msg13890417
Another 2.

These are just five examples from yesterday and today. I'm pretty sure I could have found more, but I'm not going to bother.

Though it might be important to know if this might be an automated ban of some kind. Can this be? Are there banbots on the forum?

This was not an automated ban, but I've written (and I'm running) a bot that checks posts made by newbies.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

It is a shame that Sebastian got banned for this.

Nah, the rules... are rules.


The problem here was only the sig ad, nothing else.

Yes, but a second warning would have been enought. Not a ban.

Sometimes mitigating factors should be weighed when making a decision like that, and given SJ's reputation I would think a warning should suffice.  I agree that the sig is a problem but I think a ban is far too severe for this type of offense.  I see Spoetnik and Gleb Gamow consecuposting all the time.  All the time.  They don't wear signatures though.

[yxt]

I find double posts extremely annoying.
The ban is also ok after the warning.

However, it now only hurts the people who has open coins in his service.
I think SebastianJu has learned his lesson. So I vote to unlock the account

[--Encrypted--]

I find double posts extremely annoying.
The ban is also ok after the warning.

However, it now only hurts the people who has open coins in his service.
I think SebastianJu has learned his lesson. So I vote to unlock the account

I think doing that will make some users think that escrow providers gets special treatment. also it seems SebastianJu is keeping in touch with his clients through emails.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Bitcointalk is becoming corrupt!

How ? Would you mind explaining ? Why don't take off your damn lending thread somewhere else if you think bitcointalk is corrupt ? Damn you hypocrites .

[SebastianJu]

Looks like my account is completely free again. Thanks moderators and helping staff.

I only fear a bit that something like that might happen again, not for the same thing, but for some unknown rule one is not aware about.

Is there a forget 14 day ban after, let's say 6 months or so? Since otherwise the risk that another ban might be a permaban sounds pretty high. And the longer someone is a member on here the higher the chance would rise to get another one. Is there something like that?

And to those who tried to warn me kindly, please think about adding to your warning that it is an actual rule or even that it is a ban reason. Only something that would have saved me from this experience. Thanks for the warning anyway, I'm sure anyone getting warned that way will be thankful.

[redsn0w]

Looks like my account is completely free again. Thanks moderators and helping staff.

I only fear a bit that something like that might happen again, not for the same thing, but for some unknown rule one is not aware about.

Is there a forget 14 day ban after, let's say 6 months or so? Since otherwise the risk that another ban might be a permaban sounds pretty high. And the longer someone is a member on here the higher the chance would rise to get another one. Is there something like that?

And to those who tried to warn me kindly, please think about adding to your warning that it is an actual rule or even that it is a ban reason. Only something that would have saved me from this experience. Thanks for the warning anyway, I'm sure anyone getting warned that way will be thankful.

Welcome back, now I think you can lock this thread .

[mexxer-2]

Is there a forget 14 day ban after, let's say 6 months or so? Since otherwise the risk that another ban might be a permaban sounds pretty high. And the longer someone is a member on here the higher the chance would rise to get another one. Is there something like that?

You get 3 strikes after which you are perma banned(with no "time limit" after which it is "forgotten"). Next one is temp ban of ~30-60 days I'd say, so yup, be careful about posting with a sig

Edit: Anyway, too much pessimism for a post. Welcome back

[n691309]

Looks like my account is completely free again. Thanks moderators and helping staff.

I only fear a bit that something like that might happen again, not for the same thing, but for some unknown rule one is not aware about.

Is there a forget 14 day ban after, let's say 6 months or so? Since otherwise the risk that another ban might be a permaban sounds pretty high. And the longer someone is a member on here the higher the chance would rise to get another one. Is there something like that?

And to those who tried to warn me kindly, please think about adding to your warning that it is an actual rule or even that it is a ban reason. Only something that would have saved me from this experience. Thanks for the warning anyway, I'm sure anyone getting warned that way will be thankful.

Welcome back Legendary, after 2 weeks there should be 30 days or 60 days and then permanent ban if I'm not wrong.

[Quickseller]

I believe that the progression of bans usually goes from a 14 day ban to a 60 day ban. Although there would still be the risk of a perma ban if a rule violation is especially egregious.   

[SebastianJu]

Guess that might be worth a suggestion for the new forum then. It simply would mean the longer one is in a forum the higher the chance to get permabanned while one would have to behave pretty stupid to do the same in a years timeframe.

I think closing the thread is not needed probably, it will die anyway fast. And I don't really like when others close threads when I would have wanted to say something. It feels like being forced to shut up. Might be only my preference or feelings.