My account SebastianJu banned for 14 days now?

[Lutpin]

One of the most trust worthy escrows in the forum gets banned for signature spam, classy. :p

And the guy who recently had some troubles with him comes up to twist the knife in the wound, surprising.

[brace the mace]

One of the most trust worthy escrows in the forum gets banned for signature spam, classy. :p

And the guy who recently had some troubles with him comes up to twist the knife in the wound, surprising.

Hey, I ain't twistin' any knifes here. Don't you find it funny that a guy who claims to have escrowed 8k bitcoins was spamming for a signature campaign? I do.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

What's there not to understand?  Like me, he posts on this forum because he wants to.  Like me he wants to get paid for that, because why wouldn't you?  It's a way of supporting the bitcoin economy and it is a feature that I've never seen on any other forum, that is, renting out signature space.  I don't know how sig campaigns came into existence, but it seems a little unfair that people who make quality posts get criticized for participating in them.  They are, either explicitly or implicitly, endorsed by Theymos.

I have no problem whatsoever with signature campaigns.  As I've said in other threads, it's a neat concept and seems to be unique to bct.  It's the people who shitpost that ruin it for everyone else

[Blazed]

We all know that if you wear a paid sig you are treated differently (rightfully so). I agree he needs to not post so many times in a row, but I do not think he did so for more sig pay. I am sure after his 2 week ban he will change how he posts.

This is why I prefer flat rate campaigns for everyone (I have been flat rate for years now).

[Xialla]

great job mods, please continue hunting signature whores and make this forum usable again..

[TECSHARE]

This is what happens when you start asking too many questions about the staff. Suddenly all these unwritten rules you never knew existed are enforced. Funny how this seems to happen over and over and over and everyone is either in line to brown nose or pretends it never happened.

[SebastianJu_alt]

SebastianJu, you were temporarily banned because you kept making multiple posts in a row, which that could have been posted in one. You have been warned about this before and having a paid signature doesn't help.

I remember telling him the same , sometime after Nov. apparently he didn't get the message.

I've warned him about this at least on 1 occasion. I was ignored at that point in time as well. The ban was well deserved and there is not much more that can be added.. I don't see a valid reason for one to make consecutive posts in this case, especially not when involved in a signature campaign. I would advise the OP one more time to avoid this in the future.

Now I remember that it was you who warned me. Well, i guess i did not realize that you are staff at that time. I thought it was a personal opinion rather than a rule to follow. My bad.

it's all about the sig. ad (nothing else).

Yep, oh the freedom us non-camapigners have...  <snip>

OK, this is very good to know and I'm quite surprised that SebastianJu got temp banned.  Guess I shouldn't be, right?  Then again, a lot of other users do much the same thing, Spoetnik and Gleb Gamow in particular come to mind.  Yes this is off topic, but that Cryptsy thread was spam city between the two of them.  Anyhow hope you can cope with this, SJ.  Learn from it.

Already done. My personal opinion about the huge posts that i would have to create now not being read at all didn't change though surely i will follow the rule, now that i know that it is an actual rule. Too bad i had to realize it this way. 

Regarding prevision... ah no, you wrote you are accused of being an alt of Quickseller, you are online all the time too, being a scambuster and all and today I wrote about why I did not trust all of his negative ratings. Forbid me the thought that your prevision was led by knowledge maybe. I only thought of the possibility, no accusation.

I think it is kinda ridiculous to imply that your ban had anything to do with you (subtlety) speaking out against me,

Yes, sorry about that. You know how one feels when something bad happens... explainations are searched. And since mexxer all the time was around like "told you so", he even warned me some time back before staff warned me, it looked a lot like he might have reported me. I didn't see a reason for that since I never angered him, at least with that username, so i was asking myself why does this happen now. What came to mind was only brace the mace who tried to shortchange someone and besides that only that I slightly criticed you. Leading to the rumour that mexxer might be an alt of you since he acts the same way you did back then.

Sorry again, I would not have written such things when I would have been calm.

similar to how I think it is ridiculous to imply that I give negative trust to anyone who speaks out against me......do you have any idea how many people troll me on a regular basis -- a lot, and a good number of them have never received negative trust from me, although a lot of them are scammers, and were tagged by me in the past -- just because you troll me does not give you a free pass in being a scammer.

I only referred to those claiming that you neg repped them because they spoke out against you and were negrepped when not on default trust. Forget it ok? No hard feelings please. This forum is, at times, already exhausting enough.

-- it will probably be fairly rare that it is actually appropriate to make three consecutive posts. You also should probably not respond to the same person across two posts, even if you are responding to two different threads.

I think another valid reason might be that the previous post was older. You need to add something and it needs to be read but it won't be read because there is no update to the thread.

Though i guess admins won't have time to check this and it will be a consecutive post anyway.

I wonder what someone should do when he needs to create an otherwise writeblocked thread to provide infos that should not be disrupted by other peoples post who should use another thread for comments to keep the infos easily readable.

At the moment i don't have a clue if such a thing would be possible at all. I mean can i really risk being banned again for lifetime this time? Well, it would make my life easier for sure since the forum is pretty timeconsuming. Easily seeable by, I believe, 4 big escrows practically leaving in the last weeks. Though I'm here trying to help avoiding scams and hopefully see how bitcoin prosper. I would not want to leave the forum to scammers. Even though i sometimes feel like giving up when the next timeconsuming hurdle shows up.

Or Grue/BadBear/Theymos and maybe even HilarousAndCo. I can only do so much.

I'm not fully aware of the fineprint of the english language so did you mean that you sent them a pm? If not could you do so?

Thanks in advance!

I think he meant he can only help up to his level best. On regards the un-banning, only Grue/BadBar/Theymos/HilariousAndCo can do something about it.

Ah ok. Well, the thing is i probably can't technically send a pm with my banned account and I guess Iam not allowed to send a pm with this alt-Account. So I would have to depend on someone other sending one. Or can I?

One of the most trust worthy escrows in the forum gets banned for signature spam, classy. :p

And the guy who recently had some troubles with him comes up to twist the knife in the wound, surprising.

Hey, I ain't twistin' any knifes here. Don't you find it funny that a guy who claims to have escrowed 8k bitcoins was spamming for a signature campaign? I do.

You really want me to protect you? Well, have fun on my cost... i won't turn scammy or try to shortchange others only because it could be highly rewarding. I prefer being able to look into the mirror. And i escrow because there are too many that think differently.

Besides, spamming is a hard word for my post quality. Well, it's defined that way on the forum now regardless of the content. Hopefully more are aware of this now.

[mexxer-2]

Yes, sorry about that. You know how one feels when something bad happens... explainations are searched. And since mexxer all the time was around like "told you so", he even warned me some time back before staff warned me, it looked a lot like he might have reported me. I didn't see a reason for that since I never angered him, at least with that username, so i was asking myself why does this happen now. What came to mind was only brace the mace who tried to shortchange someone and besides that only that I slightly criticed you. Leading to the rumour that mexxer might be an alt of you since he acts the same way you did back then.

Sorry again, I would not have written such things when I would have been calm.

You're talking about it as if I can get anyone who I feel like to be banned  , although the thought of reporting you did pop into my mind a few times , with the mods(the ones who can actually do anything) barely caring about signature spam and the fact that you are a trusted member, a legendary one and an escrow I simply disregarded the thought.

P.S: Learning you are, making multiple posts in one, my young padawan

[Lauda]

This is what happens when you start asking too many questions about the staff. Suddenly all these unwritten rules you never knew existed are enforced. Funny how this seems to happen over and over and over and everyone is either in line to brown nose or pretends it never happened.

What you wrote is just pure nonsense. It was well known that you should not be double or triple post. Additionally he was warned(!) several times by both staff and non staff members. Read the thread next time before you appeal to emotion.

One of the most trust worthy escrows in the forum gets banned for signature spam, classy. :p

It doesn't matter to me who you are, if you keep breaking the rules you will get banned.

It really does not matter which moderator issued the ban. Also disclosing which moderator issued a ban will only lead to moderator abuse/harassment of that moderator.

Exactly.

Now I remember that it was you who warned me. Well, i guess i did not realize that you are staff at that time. I thought it was a personal opinion rather than a rule to follow. My bad.

You should look more closely next time. However, this happened a while back. It is best to wait out your punishment and avoid doing this in the future.
Update: Corrections.

[sase007]

What's there not to understand?  Like me, he posts on this forum because he wants to.  Like me he wants to get paid for that, because why wouldn't you?  It's a way of supporting the bitcoin economy and it is a feature that I've never seen on any other forum, that is, renting out signature space.  I don't know how sig campaigns came into existence, but it seems a little unfair that people who make quality posts get criticized for participating in them.  They are, either explicitly or implicitly, endorsed by Theymos.

I have no problem whatsoever with signature campaigns.  As I've said in other threads, it's a neat concept and seems to be unique to bct.  It's the people who shitpost that ruin it for everyone else

Nicely put.
Though there are many that hate signature campaigns, It is acually a great way of keeping the Bitcoin ecosystem going.
Since mining is now seen as unprofitable unless your electricity fees are less than $0.09/KWh, it is probably the second most used way of distributing Bitcoins and give members a chance of earning when they wouldn't normally.

One of the most trust worthy escrows in the forum gets banned for signature spam, classy. :p

And the guy who recently had some troubles with him comes up to twist the knife in the wound, surprising.

Hey, I ain't twistin' any knifes here. Don't you find it funny that a guy who claims to have escrowed 8k bitcoins was spamming for a signature campaign? I do.

It does seem a bit like you are trying to twist a knife. I don't believe that being in a signature campaign itself means that you are a spammer.

If this is correct and he did make multiple posts in a row, then that is another thing entirely as he should really have known not to do that and can now learn for next time (when he could be permabanned)!

[minifrij]

This is what happens when you start asking too many questions about the staff. Suddenly all these unwritten rules you never knew existed are enforced. Funny how this seems to happen over and over and over and everyone is either in line to brown nose or pretends it never happened.

You really like shoehorning in your vendetta against the staff in every irrelevant topic you can, huh?

You should look more closely next time. However, this was month ago yet you kept doing it.

I don't think this really needs to be mentioned anymore; he has accepted his punishment and already started to change. There is no reason to try and make him feel worse about it.

[brace the mace]

One of the most trust worthy escrows in the forum gets banned for signature spam, classy. :p

And the guy who recently had some troubles with him comes up to twist the knife in the wound, surprising.

Hey, I ain't twistin' any knifes here. Don't you find it funny that a guy who claims to have escrowed 8k bitcoins was spamming for a signature campaign? I do.

It does seem a bit like you are trying to twist a knife. I don't believe that being in a signature campaign itself means that you are a spammer.

Meh, I just feel an urge to make fun of the ridiculousness. I'd make fun of any "legendary escrow" that got banned for spamming posts paying 0.5$ each.  

[redsn0w]

One of the most trust worthy escrows in the forum gets banned for signature spam, classy. :p

And the guy who recently had some troubles with him comes up to twist the knife in the wound, surprising.

Hey, I ain't twistin' any knifes here. Don't you find it funny that a guy who claims to have escrowed 8k bitcoins was spamming for a signature campaign? I do.

It does seem a bit like you are trying to twist a knife. I don't believe that being in a signature campaign itself means that you are a spammer.

Meh, I just feel an urge to make fun of the ridiculousness. I'd make fun of any "legendary escrow" that got banned for spamming posts paying 0.5$ each. 

It's funny that someone should be paid for post here , especially users ( I'm talking in general).

[SebastianJu_alt]

It really does not matter which moderator issued the ban. Also disclosing which moderator issued a ban will only lead to moderator abuse/harassment of that moderator.

Exactly.

I think so too, I only asked for the name in order to ask the moderator what the ban was about. It was cleared already and a name is not needed at all.

You should look more closely next time. However, this happened a while back. It is best to wait out your punishment and avoid doing this in the future.

Hm, I searched for messages from you but all I found were two messages back from august. Did you write with an alt-account, was the message deleted or did the search function not work?

I wanted to check what you wrote because I did not realize that it as rule. Anyway, just generally, it would be good when anybody who warns mention that it is a rule at all. Maybe even the risk of being banned. I guess mexxer might warn more often. I only mean that generally it's not meant as critic.

P.S: Learning you are, making multiple posts in one, my young padawan

Yeah, I do of course. Even though I find these posts pretty ugly, they are not really a good read. I think I might mention usernames in bold. Maybe that would help other users to realize there is a post for them hidden.

On the other hand I already know getting criticized for too big posts. *sigh*

It's funny that someone should be paid for post here , especially users ( I'm talking in general).

It's a great way to advertise and name branding. Advertising here is probably the most effective way targetting the target audience. Bitcoin users are seldom more concentrated than here.

For getting a project kickstarted and branded it is a good thing for business owners.

The seond most important point is that there are not many places where you can get so good backlinks. Which will push the target domain up in the serps (search engine result pages).

... posts paying 0.5$ each. 

It's ridiculous reading you write this. You hid the fact that the account you wanted to sell was banned from a couple of signature campaigns previously. For what? For gaining a couple more bucks. And the buyer, when you would have managed to not check these thing out, would have felt scammed. Surely you are no one to speak out on that matter.

Besides, you are nearly 50% off with your guess. Quality posters can get special contracts. Well, it's funny that you tried to sell an account you used for signature campaigns too.

And surely especially you would not be the one who would let lay around free bucks on the floor...




But I would like have to clarify now how the rules are. What occassions is it allowed to post more than one post? I think there might be legitimate reasons but at the moment it looks too risky to try it out without clear rules being known. So what about:

• The previous post is older, let's say a day, a week or maybe a hour only. You would want to write something in the thread to inform everyone about a status change of something. You can't post adding at the last post because you could be sure that no one will realize the last post changed. No update of the thread would be propagated and the info would be missed by a lot of people. It might even be needed to help others out, like I do in cannabit thread. It would be not possible to wait until another poster asks for updates.
• You open a project thread, you reserve second and third post for status updates and you need to post maybe more often than other users. Still you need them to notice your text. It even might be a closed thread so that only you are the only person posting there.

I think it is extremely troubling to not have the rules fully exactly defined since it might not be possible to solve the above problems. No one would want to risk his account being banned or even permabanned.

So I ask mods and staff to clarify if there is a solution for these cases at all. Or if members would have to stop using the forum for things like that. I mean asking for if it is allowed before would surely not help either because it is often enough not easy to get an answer.

[Lutpin]

The previous post is older, let's say a day, a week or maybe a hour only. You would want to write something in the thread to inform everyone about a status change of something. You can't post adding at the last post because you could be sure that no one will realize the last post changed. No update of the thread would be propagated and the info would be missed by a lot of people. It might even be needed to help others out, like I do in cannabit thread. It would be not possible to wait until another poster asks for updates.

Something I found working for myself when I wanted everyone to notice an edit/addition to the last post I made is copying the post, adding what I have to say, and then deleting the first one.
I don't double post that way and everyone gets the info about a new reply in their list - for me (myself), that's the solution I prefer.

If you edit a post (and you are the last post in a thread), the thread will reappear in "Watchlist" and "Show new replies to your posts" even if people read the previous version of the post. However, it will not bump the thread in the section overview.
This is, of course, if I'm not mistaken, but I'm 99.9% sure.

Didn't know about that. Good to know.

Hmmm, strange. I was pretty certain that worked as I saw it written down somewhere, guess not. My bad.

[Decoded]

Do you have to be warned by an admin before getting temp/perma-banned? I was never told that. My friend was recently banned for telling lies

[Mitchell]

If you edit a post (and you are the last post in a thread), the thread will reappear in "Watchlist" and "Show new replies to your posts" even if people read the previous version of the post. However, it will not bump the thread in the section overview.

This is, of course, if I'm not mistaken, but I'm 99.9% sure.

[TheButterZone]

Sorry SebastianJu, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
Excessive consecutive posting+sig ad (14 days)

Is the sig ad+consecutive posting excessive by https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=253341 ?

[Lutpin]

Is the sig ad+consecutive posting excessive by https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=253341 ?

A bit OT, don't you think? IMHO it would be.

Achievement unlocked: Quadrupple post.

[Capitascism]

Will you alway be first warned before ban?
Via PM or directly after post?
Where i can read more about those rules?