Racial Healing Comes Only By Understanding the Past

[TECSHARE]

After examination of the OP's posting history, I have come to the conclusion that this person is little more than a Marxist agitator that thrives on drawing any kind of attention to her mindless ideologies. Please keep this in mind next time you see one of her OPs.

Critical Theory and Marxism: http://glossarium.bitrum.unileon.es/Home/teoria-critica-de-la-informacion/critical-theory-of-information

And why is it bad to be Marxist and/or critical about capitalism? You seem to love capitalism so much it's an argument in itself TECHShare...

Because marxism destroys entire societies and is directly responsible for the deaths of several dozens of millions of people. Marxism is not the opposite of capitalism, and one can criticize marxism without implicitly supporting capitalism.

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[Cass LeChat]

The world would indeed be boring if we were all white? Our hearts beat like one another we are all the same, whether we are a shade lighter or darker than anyone else is irrelevant and not important, the question is can we live in peace on this planet that we all share together?

It is relevant because great harm has already happened. To say that it's not important also erases the need to address the ways in which our world is still very racist and doesn't ease suffering.

[neonshium]

The world would indeed be boring if we were all white? Our hearts beat like one another we are all the same, whether we are a shade lighter or darker than anyone else is irrelevant and not important, the question is can we live in peace on this planet that we all share together?

In the world today there are distinct groups of people, the yellow ie chinese far eastern ethnities,the asian, india, middle-east etc, Europeans, America white skinned etc, and then the blacks in Africa etc. Exactly different people makes our life keep on moving without getting bored. Really racism is boring and need to be buried.

[craked5]

After examination of the OP's posting history, I have come to the conclusion that this person is little more than a Marxist agitator that thrives on drawing any kind of attention to her mindless ideologies. Please keep this in mind next time you see one of her OPs.

Critical Theory and Marxism: http://glossarium.bitrum.unileon.es/Home/teoria-critica-de-la-informacion/critical-theory-of-information

And why is it bad to be Marxist and/or critical about capitalism? You seem to love capitalism so much it's an argument in itself TECHShare...

Because marxism destroys entire societies and is directly responsible for the deaths of several dozens of millions of people. Marxism is not the opposite of capitalism, and one can criticize marxism without implicitly supporting capitalism.

Meh? What the fuck are you talking about?
Capitalism is responsible for millions more death than Marxism... You seem completely biased ^^

[TECSHARE]

After examination of the OP's posting history, I have come to the conclusion that this person is little more than a Marxist agitator that thrives on drawing any kind of attention to her mindless ideologies. Please keep this in mind next time you see one of her OPs.

Critical Theory and Marxism: http://glossarium.bitrum.unileon.es/Home/teoria-critica-de-la-informacion/critical-theory-of-information

And why is it bad to be Marxist and/or critical about capitalism? You seem to love capitalism so much it's an argument in itself TECHShare...

Because marxism destroys entire societies and is directly responsible for the deaths of several dozens of millions of people. Marxism is not the opposite of capitalism, and one can criticize marxism without implicitly supporting capitalism.

Meh? What the fuck are you talking about?
Capitalism is responsible for millions more death than Marxism... You seem completely biased ^^

Let me say it again...

CAPITALISM IS NOT THE OPPOSITE OF MARXISM

Just because Marxist rhetoric is anticapitalist does not make Capitalism its counterpart. Criticizing Marxism is not automatically a defense of Capitalism. I am criticizing Marxism here, not cheer leading for Capitalism. The only reason you have to bring up Capitalism is so you can distract from the reality that Marxism has DIRECTLY caused millions of deaths.

I am not bias, I am informed and educated about the history of Marxism, Communism, and Socialism and know how very destructive it is to entire nations. As a matter of fact Marxism's entire purpose is to tear down society to make way for Socialism, then Communism. This is from Karl Marx's own mouth.

Your accusation of bias is a logical fallacy. You claim because I am antimarxist, that I must be procapitalist. Capitalism is not under discussion here, Marxism is.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque


Here is JUST PART of the horrors of Marxism from one single regime:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

https://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/september/naimark-stalin-genocide-092310.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/04/was_the_starvation_of_the_kula.html

[Snail2]

I don't see too much chance for some sort of "racial reconciliation". Racism is a good business on all levels. The political elite often exploiting ethnic tensions to keep us divided, distracted and/or get more votes (e.g.: "If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour").

Racism kills people, you dumb shit. How old are you? Who let you on the internet?

. Wake up, take a look at the world as it is, and then maybe you will understand what I'm talking about.

[craked5]

I don't see too much chance for some sort of "racial reconciliation". Racism is a good business on all levels. The political elite often exploiting ethnic tensions to keep us divided, distracted and/or get more votes (e.g.: "If you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour").

Racism kills people, you dumb shit. How old are you? Who let you on the internet?

He never said the contrary, he just said they (governments and banks and shit like them) won't let you go for your racial reconciliation because they use racial tensions.

And I clearly agree with Snail2

[craked5]

After examination of the OP's posting history, I have come to the conclusion that this person is little more than a Marxist agitator that thrives on drawing any kind of attention to her mindless ideologies. Please keep this in mind next time you see one of her OPs.

Critical Theory and Marxism: http://glossarium.bitrum.unileon.es/Home/teoria-critica-de-la-informacion/critical-theory-of-information

And why is it bad to be Marxist and/or critical about capitalism? You seem to love capitalism so much it's an argument in itself TECHShare...

Because marxism destroys entire societies and is directly responsible for the deaths of several dozens of millions of people. Marxism is not the opposite of capitalism, and one can criticize marxism without implicitly supporting capitalism.

Meh? What the fuck are you talking about?
Capitalism is responsible for millions more death than Marxism... You seem completely biased ^^

Let me say it again...

CAPITALISM IS NOT THE OPPOSITE OF MARXISM

Just because Marxist rhetoric is anticapitalist does not make Capitalism its counterpart. Criticizing Marxism is not automatically a defense of Capitalism. I am criticizing Marxism here, not cheer leading for Capitalism. The only reason you have to bring up Capitalism is so you can distract from the reality that Marxism has DIRECTLY caused millions of deaths.

I am not bias, I am informed and educated about the history of Marxism, Communism, and Socialism and know how very destructive it is to entire nations. As a matter of fact Marxism's entire purpose is to tear down society to make way for Socialism, then Communism. This is from Karl Marx's own mouth.

Your accusation of bias is a logical fallacy. You claim because I am antimarxist, that I must be procapitalist. Capitalism is not under discussion here, Marxism is.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque


Here is JUST PART of the horrors of Marxism from one single regime:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

https://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/september/naimark-stalin-genocide-092310.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/04/was_the_starvation_of_the_kula.html

Lol, here you go with your logical fallacies shit again xD
While making my point in your own answer, thx.

You just said Marxism is here to makes way for socialism and communism, which are the opposite of capitalism. Hence Marxism is the opposite of capitalism, or at least the first step of the opposite of capitalism but here it's just semantic xD

Capitalism is directly responsible for millions and millions of deaths since the begining of history... Crusades, wars, genocides, WWI and WWII, every USA wars, colonialism... It's all due to capitalism.

You might be educated but you're clearly not intelligent or objective. Sure Staline + Mao makes a great combo, but it's only 2 events ^^

[Snail2]

Lol, here you go with your logical fallacies shit again xD
While making my point in your own answer, thx.

You just said Marxism is here to makes way for socialism and communism, which are the opposite of capitalism. Hence Marxism is the opposite of capitalism, or at least the first step of the opposite of capitalism but here it's just semantic xD

Capitalism is directly responsible for millions and millions of deaths since the begining of history... Crusades, wars, genocides, WWI and WWII, every USA wars, colonialism... It's all due to capitalism.

You might be educated but you're clearly not intelligent or objective. Sure Staline + Mao makes a great combo, but it's only 2 events ^^

Actually he has valid points. In a socialist/marxist society the working class not owning the means of production any more than in a capitalist society. All that stuff belongs to the state what effectively means the ruling elite and its loyal servants. You can see it as state capitalism or in best case as syndicalism. Anyway the working class will get only peanuts again, while the ruling elite will get the power, privileges and profit.
Go for anarcho-syndicalism if you want a real workers state .

BTW the marxists of the 20th century were not a bit better than their capitalist counterparts, they had only different rhetoric, fewer resources and shorter time to do harm to mankind.

[adverbelly]

Not only from understanding the past but relating those problems to the present day then we might have a solution to understanding why there is so much racial hatred and discrimination in the world today.

you are absolutely right.. we must take lessons from the past to demolish our modern world's problems...  we should understand past mistakes properly..

[craked5]

Lol, here you go with your logical fallacies shit again xD
While making my point in your own answer, thx.

You just said Marxism is here to makes way for socialism and communism, which are the opposite of capitalism. Hence Marxism is the opposite of capitalism, or at least the first step of the opposite of capitalism but here it's just semantic xD

Capitalism is directly responsible for millions and millions of deaths since the begining of history... Crusades, wars, genocides, WWI and WWII, every USA wars, colonialism... It's all due to capitalism.

You might be educated but you're clearly not intelligent or objective. Sure Staline + Mao makes a great combo, but it's only 2 events ^^

Actually he has valid points. In a socialist/marxist society the working class not owning the means of production any more than in a capitalist society. All that stuff belongs to the state what effectively means the ruling elite and its loyal servants. You can see it as state capitalism or in best case as syndicalism. Anyway the working class will get only peanuts again, while the ruling elite will get the power, privileges and profit.
Go for anarcho-syndicalism if you want a real workers state .

BTW the marxists of the 20th century were not a bit better than their capitalist counterparts, they had only different rhetoric, fewer resources and shorter time to do harm to mankind.

There is a major difference, Socialism/Communism was not better because it was also an elite class leading the working class. But today with our current technology it's perfectly logical to imagine a truly democratic system where the means of production are own by the state but controlled by the people. A simple annual voting in each sector of activity for the great decisions, that sounds like a much better plan that what Sanofi is currently doing (French company, 15billion € profits last year, 8billion for the shareholders, 14 000 jobs are going to be deleted next year).

[Snail2]

There is a major difference, Socialism/Communism was not better because it was also an elite class leading the working class. But today with our current technology it's perfectly logical to imagine a truly democratic system where the means of production are own by the state but controlled by the people. A simple annual voting in each sector of activity for the great decisions, that sounds like a much better plan that what Sanofi is currently doing (French company, 15billion € profits last year, 8billion for the shareholders, 14 000 jobs are going to be deleted next year).

What you described above, that's mix of state socialism and syndicalism. I think until you have a "state" you will have a ruling elite as well. If you have an elite then it's just matter of time when they took absolute power. Otherwise I agree, with our current technology a fast reacting direct democracy on all levels and a scaled down state would be feasible.

[mainpmf]

There is a major difference, Socialism/Communism was not better because it was also an elite class leading the working class. But today with our current technology it's perfectly logical to imagine a truly democratic system where the means of production are own by the state but controlled by the people. A simple annual voting in each sector of activity for the great decisions, that sounds like a much better plan that what Sanofi is currently doing (French company, 15billion € profits last year, 8billion for the shareholders, 14 000 jobs are going to be deleted next year).

What you described above, that's mix of state socialism and syndicalism. I think until you have a "state" you will have a ruling elite as well. If you have an elite then it's just matter of time when they took absolute power. Otherwise I agree, with our current technology a fast reacting direct democracy on all levels and a scaled down state would be feasible.

What we have currently is not really a democracy in fact.
You can have an elite without it being able to take the power as long as the constitution is voted by the citizens and the laws too

Of course the elite can influence the people, but limited influence is not a bad thing in itself!