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January 19, 2013, 07:04:34 PM
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Somehow I am a bit disappointed of Kim. After all his talk about getting rid of US dictated monopolies, like credit cards and Paypal, I at least would have expected SOME other option than that. Maybe direct bank wires or cash in mail or ANYTHING, but Paypal, Visa and Master all over again?

I'm starting to think more and more that Kim is just a stupid guy who happened to get lucky with his service. I mean he knows how to provide that service but other than that he is a moron.

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January 19, 2013, 07:07:15 PM
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Fail, kim. Page is not loading and The URL says mobile undefined even on my iPad ...

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January 19, 2013, 07:28:22 PM
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Fail, kim. Page is not loading and The URL says mobile undefined even on my iPad ...

It works for me but when I try to sign up it hangs and if I reload and try again the same thing happens.

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January 19, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
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Sounds like a job for our #1 payment processor.

The going scheme seems to be that domain sellers offer subscriptions only (https://mega.co.nz/#resellers).
Maybe some of those guys would be right:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Domain_Name_and_DNS_Hosting

kalyhost.com maybe...

they are hosting mtgox
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January 19, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
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Somehow I am a bit disappointed of Kim. After all his talk about getting rid of US dictated monopolies, like credit cards and Paypal, I at least would have expected SOME other option than that. Maybe direct bank wires or cash in mail or ANYTHING, but Paypal, Visa and Master all over again?

Well, I kind of like mega (But I love our own little baby more Wink ), but honestly, I don't understand why there's no bitcoin support right away. I mean, it's not like not supporting bitcoin would win Kim any favors from the nice gentlemen in the FBI...

Now, I am currently in the process of carefully reading the site, and as far as I can tell, there is no indication of anything that might resemble something like an uploader reward program a-la the great old Megaupload days. If that's true, it would be sorely disappointing...
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January 19, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
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Now that is just unfair. Even without uploader rewards, it's still neato.

The more crypto-enhanced file hosting services there are, the merrier.

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January 19, 2013, 08:21:50 PM
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I found the secure connection site worked but open connection not ... i.e. use
https://mega.co.nz

EDIT: oooh, looks like an API https://mega.co.nz/#developers and lots of back-end info is being made available also ... maybe not be too hard for 3rd party to bolt on a bitcoin-enabled service anyway ??

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January 19, 2013, 08:31:07 PM
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EDIT: oooh, looks like an API https://mega.co.nz/#developers and lots of back-end info is being made available also ... maybe not be too hard for 3rd party to bolt on a bitcoin-enabled service anyway ??

https://mega.co.nz/#resellerintro  Grin

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January 19, 2013, 08:45:40 PM
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EDIT: oooh, looks like an API https://mega.co.nz/#developers and lots of back-end info is being made available also ... maybe not be too hard for 3rd party to bolt on a bitcoin-enabled service anyway ??

https://mega.co.nz/#resellerintro  Grin

Yeah interesting he has chosen to use a voucher system for the resellers, like Mt Gox does. I can imagine those Mega vouchers will become a currency in their own right and could be traded for bitcoins on some exchanges somewhere anyway, maybe in the deep web if need be ...

... Kim could have called the vouchers MegaBucks   Cheesy

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January 19, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
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I found the secure connection site worked but open connection not ... i.e. use
https://mega.co.nz

EDIT: oooh, looks like an API https://mega.co.nz/#developers and lots of back-end info is being made available also ... maybe not be too hard for 3rd party to bolt on a bitcoin-enabled service anyway ??

That's my intention. Smiley

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January 19, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
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Eventually Mega will accept Bitcoin, it's inevitable!

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January 20, 2013, 12:01:16 AM
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Since I did not get an invite to the party Sad I am at home playing with it now.

Can anyone upload anything or is it just me stuck at 0%?

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January 20, 2013, 12:23:13 AM
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Since I did not get an invite to the party Sad I am at home playing with it now.

Can anyone upload anything or is it just me stuck at 0%?


Same here ... seems there is no more upload just Mega.

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January 20, 2013, 12:36:27 AM
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January 20, 2013, 01:06:53 AM
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Eventually Mega will accept Bitcoin, it's inevitable!

It is far more likely that a Mega reseller will sell Mega vouchers for BTC. The result from a retail preservative will be as if Mega accepted BTC.

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January 20, 2013, 01:25:09 AM
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Eventually Mega will accept Bitcoin, it's inevitable!

It is far more likely that a Mega reseller will sell Mega vouchers for BTC. The result from a retail preservative will be as if Mega accepted BTC.

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January 20, 2013, 01:32:28 AM
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Eventually Mega will accept Bitcoin, it's inevitable!

It is far more likely that a Mega reseller will sell Mega vouchers for BTC. The result from a retail preservative will be as if Mega accepted BTC.

That would be kick-ass actually.  Just as good, or better, than using Bitcoin directly.  As long as Mr. Dotcom does not require that I provide him with an identity theft kit (like Mt. Gox, for instance) I might even make use of their service.  Or would if it was useful to me.

IMHO, the thing that would 'save' Bitcoin would be that it becomes 'high powered money' and used relatively lightly for big-ticket and/or important things.  Then there is a potential that 'peers' in the so-called P2P system will be more than a handful of mining pool operators due to uncontrolled growth.


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January 20, 2013, 02:26:21 AM
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I'm starting to think more and more that Kim is just a stupid guy who happened to get lucky with his service. I mean he knows how to provide that service but other than that he is a moron.

This reflects my thoughts exactly.

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January 20, 2013, 02:54:28 AM
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Since I did not get an invite to the party Sad I am at home playing with it now.

Can anyone upload anything or is it just me stuck at 0%?


Same here ^^  Sad


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January 20, 2013, 04:46:45 AM
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Somehow I am a bit disappointed of Kim. After all his talk about getting rid of US dictated monopolies, like credit cards and Paypal, I at least would have expected SOME other option than that. Maybe direct bank wires or cash in mail or ANYTHING, but Paypal, Visa and Master all over again?

I'm starting to think more and more that Kim is just a stupid guy who happened to get lucky with his service. I mean he knows how to provide that service but other than that he is a moron.

Actually as far as I can see this is a very smart design. Mega itself does not deal with the retail sales but leaves this to the resellers who can use any payment method they choose including of course Bitcoin. These resellers can be anywhere in the world so even if some one pays with say a credit card or PayPal, Mega itself does not get the payment information, and the end user can literally shop around for the jurisdiction with the strictest privacy laws when choosing a reseller.  This also means that Mega itself collects minimal information a name (with no verification), email address and an IP address (TOR anyone?). The design also calls for distributed hosting with backups of each file in different at least two different jurisdictions.

The files are encrypted and Mega itself does not have the private keys. So the only way a copyright holder will even know that there is infringing content is if the person who uploaded the content leaks the key directly or indirectly to the copyright holder. At this point I am sure Mega will honour a takedown notice provided that the copyright holder has dotted all the legal i's and crossed all the legal t's. Now user side encryption has many perfectly legal and legitimate uses such as the cloud backup of sensitive data.

This whole thing looks like it has been designed by an army of lawyers in order to create a mega legal headache for the entertainment industry while at the same time being in strict compliance with the law.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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