Anonymous coins

[hd060053]

Where can I get a list of the most important anonymous coins?

What do you think are the best anonymous coins ?

[1714594541]

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[pedrog]

Here's what I was able to find, check for volume and market cap for the most widely used.

Monero
Shadowcash
Darknote
Dash
Boostcoin
X11coin
X13coin
Cloakcoin
Cryptcoin
DigiByte
BitcoinDark
DogecoinDark
Stealthcoin

https://z.cash/


I don't really think these coins are important, they have speculative value and are quite good for trading, I have made several profitable trades with some of these.

[NeuroticFish]

I'd say that most important ones are Monero, Dash, Boolberry and Shadowcash.

But I'd also advise you to do your own research on Dash.... because of some possible problems there exactly on anonymity and because it seems that a small number of people controls the price.

[Doms]

I use dash and it's Darksend feature is awesome and also want to recommend you to use dash also.

[GTO911]

Shadowcash was recently de-anonymized by Monero cryptographer Shen. So research is very important before buying anything

Here's what I was able to find, check for volume and market cap for the most widely used.

Zcash and Monero listed with shitclones? Only these two are not BTC clones

You clearly know nothing about anonymous coin tech and shouldnt be giving advice to people

[TPTB_need_war]

Here we go again...anonyingmouse wars...

You forgot the most important one:

paper cash

[hd060053]

thx for the answers,

so for now, i think the most important ones are:

Monero
Dash
ZeroCash

right?

[crazywack]

Sonic could be added to the list right next to XST. Hondo and argakiig colaborate on much of the coding and testing of each others projects.

[GTO911]

thx for the answers,

so for now, i think the most important ones are:

Monero
Dash
ZeroCash

right?

Right

Sonic could be added to the list right next to XST. Hondo and argakiig colaborate on much of the coding and testing of each others projects.

Link to sonic thread?

[TPTB_need_war]

thx for the answers,

so for now, i think the most important ones are:

Monero
Dash
ZeroCash

right?

Right

ftfy

Dash is not anonymous and it is a mining the speculator scheme employing masternodes owned by insiders which (pay them exorbitant fees) they obtained with a scam premine that they tried to hide and then drastically reducing the money supply planned after launch so they would own much of the coins.

But Dash is known for soda pop vending machines (well actually just one) and dancer in a g-string at a crypto conference.

Oh and I almost forgot that Dash published a white paper for InstantX that had high school level math which I showed was flawed to the point of being a deceptive lie. It claimed masternodes couldn't compromise the InstantX and I showed the probability was orders-of-magnitude more likely.

Formerly DarkCoin, now Dash rhymes with Trash. That is all you need to remember.

[GTO911]

Dash is not anonymous and it is a mining the speculator scheme employing masternodes owned by insiders which (pay them exorbitant fees) they obtained with a scam premine that they tried to hide and then drastically reducing the money supply planned after launch so they would own much of the coins.

I know but it will rain Dash trolls in here if you say the truth, so i kinda let it pass. Moreover if OP is smart enough he will find that out himself

OP you can go the long way or just follow this - Only Zcash and Monero are worth looking at

[crazywack]

thx for the answers,

so for now, i think the most important ones are:

Monero
Dash
ZeroCash

right?

Right

Sonic could be added to the list right next to XST. Hondo and argakiig colaborate on much of the coding and testing of each others projects.

Link to sonic thread?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=755180.0

Link to sonic thread. Most conversation, development is released via slack in which stealth and sonic share a slack channels.

[Cyaren]

I'd say dash and monero are the two main ones.

[Mr Felt]

Here's what I was able to find, check for volume and market cap for the most widely used.

Monero
Shadowcash
Darknote
Dash
Boostcoin
X11coin
X13coin
Cloakcoin
Cryptcoin
DigiByte
BitcoinDark
DogecoinDark
Stealthcoin

https://z.cash/


I don't really think these coins are important, they have speculative value and are quite good for trading, I have made several profitable trades with some of these.

Just a clarification - DogecoinDark is now Verge.  It uses i2p/tor for privacy enhancements, they have an electrum wallet too.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1365894.msg13897233#msg13897233

[TPTB_need_war]

Formerly DarkCoin, now Dash rhymes with Trash. That is all you need to remember.

Just a clarification - DogecoinDark is now Verge.

So meme ... so orifice abstract ... so HOMOmorphictifying

[MedaR]

Cloakcoin community awaiting release of POSA3!
 Maybe is good time to read more about this in their white paper..
  Now this is very strong community. Dev team is more than Active.
   Many good things are happening meanwhile on Cloakcoin new forum.

[pandher]

Cloakcoin community awaiting release of POSA3!
 Maybe is good time to read more about this in their white paper..
  Now this is very strong community. Dev team is more than Active.
   Many good things are happening meanwhile on Cloakcoin new forum.

Is this the same shitcoin whose incompetent 'dev' failed to clone properly and launched a broken coin which ocminer(poolguy) had to fix after launch.

Zcash is not launched yet so Monero is the only thing to talk about privacy

[Mr Felt]

Formerly DarkCoin, now Dash rhymes with Trash. That is all you need to remember.

Just a clarification - DogecoinDark is now Verge.

So meme ... so orifice abstract ... so HOMOmorphictifying

Ok, I applaud the effort, but the execution of the troll maneuver didn't really pop or sting like it should have.  "Orifice" was not the right word choice here, but it is barking up the right tree.  If you want a re-do, I'm willing to be judge anew. 

[JosNekoKopa]

For what purposes can be used anonymity, and what chance for this coins to become target practice for law enforcement? I'm wondering how will government adopt this idea that bunch of kids can make Money laundering systems?

[Mr Felt]

For what purposes can be used anonymity, and what chance for this coins to become target practice for law enforcement? I'm wondering how will government adopt this idea that bunch of kids can make Money laundering systems?

1. All purposes for which the tech can be used - same as with cash.

2. High probability of interest by LE, same as with cash. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/15/crime-terrorism-and-tax-evasion-why-banks-are-waging-war-on-cash

3. Kids have always had that ability and have probably always participated in funding laundering activities (e.g., arcades, vending machines, etc. are all great ways to launder cash).

I don't see how privacy-focused currencies increase the occurrences of bad behavior; privacy is more about consumer protection and freedom from spam IMHO.

[Rotator]

3. Kids have always had that ability and have probably have always participated in funding laundering activities (e.g., arcades, vending machines, etc. are all great ways to launder cash).

Yes i remember those early hackers that gave a headaches to parents and governments so called experts.
What about today? When all that knowledge can be found on internet..?

[mathgal23]

Of the existing coins, XMR is the most developed. AEON is interesting but still very small. ZeroCash is interesting but I hate the developer reward structure and am still not convinced their trusted setup plan is perfect.

[sorryforthat]

Of the existing coins, XMR is the most developed.

Could you break down how its more developed over other cryptonote coins?

[boolberry]

Of the existing coins, XMR is the most developed.

Could you break down how its more developed over other cryptonote coins?

If she is referring to privacy development I would have to agree. RingCT research and development from Monero is far more than has been done by any other CryptoNote coin

https://lab.getmonero.org/pubs/MRL-0005.pdf
https://github.com/ShenNoether/RingCT

CryptoNote transactions are unlinkable. Confidential Transactions will hide the amount being sent.

[benthach]

I'd say that most important ones are Monero, Dash, Boolberry and Shadowcash.

But I'd also advise you to do your own research on Dash.... because of some possible problems there exactly on anonymity and because it seems that a small number of people controls the price.

isn't this scam with bad community call shadowtrash already cracked? it is just another yesteryear of cloakcoin. get with stealthcoin and boolberry if you into anon coin, it have much more room to grows with good team.

[TPTB_need_war]

Formerly DarkCoin, now Dash rhymes with Trash. That is all you need to remember.

Just a clarification - DogecoinDark is now Verge.

So meme ... so orifice abstract ... so HOMOmorphictifying

Ok, I applaud the effort, but the execution of the troll maneuver didn't really pop or sting like it should have.  "Orifice" was not the right word choice here, but it is barking up the right tree.  If you want a re-do, I'm willing to be judge anew. 

Well I was thinking it rhymes with Urge and on the verge of committing to the urge.

[btcxyzzz]

XMR ftw

[Bameras]

Bytecoin was the fist anonymous coins, but the distribution of it is quite dubious, so Monero was generated to have fairer distribution.

[robelneo]

Bytecoin was the fist anonymous coins, but the distribution of it is quite dubious, so Monero was generated to have fairer distribution.

If bytecoin was the first anonymous coin then why it is not a very popular and well adopted coins and why called it dubious had some bytecoins here and still waiting what will happen to this coin..

[MedaR]

Is this the same shitcoin whose incompetent 'dev' failed to clone properly and launched a broken coin which ocminer(poolguy) had to fix after launch.

No this is not the same coin. Old dev team never accomplish anything and first announcement was a failure! After that this coin is used for PnD games and many investors were disappointed..
Today is quite a different situation!
This was takeover by community and Cashman!
You can visit topic and found ou more..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823143.msg9197273#msg9197273

[generalizethis]

Bytecoin was the fist anonymous coins, but the distribution of it is quite dubious, so Monero was generated to have fairer distribution.

If bytecoin was the first anonymous coin then why it is not a very popular and well adopted coins and why called it dubious had some bytecoins here and still waiting what will happen to this coin..

The front loaded distribution (whether you want to call it an instamine or a ninjamine) leads to breaking its untracability.

https://lab.getmonero.org/pubs/MRL-0001.pdf

[Spoetnik]

Of the existing coins, XMR is the most developed.

Could you break down how its more developed over other cryptonote coins?

If she is referring to privacy development I would have to agree. RingCT research and development from Monero is far more than has been done by any other CryptoNote coin

https://lab.getmonero.org/pubs/MRL-0005.pdf
https://github.com/ShenNoether/RingCT

CryptoNote transactions are unlinkable. Confidential Transactions will hide the amount being sent.

AHHAHAHAHHAHAH

Go to Poloniex and hand them your Picture ID then buy Monero.
Then send them somewhere like to a Terrorist or drug dealer.
THEN !
let's see how fast the exchange running on American soil gets a dept. of Homeland security warrant

THE SAME THING ALREADY HAPPENED LOTS AT CRYPTSY DUMB FUCKS !
Cryptsy admitted it !

[arbitrage]

AHHAHAHAHHAHAH
Go to Poloniex and hand them your Picture ID then buy Monero.

Yes Poloniex sucks because of this!
Earlier they didn't care, i hope this trend will not become standard!

[crazywack]

AHHAHAHAHHAHAH
Go to Poloniex and hand them your Picture ID then buy Monero.

Yes Poloniex sucks because of this!
Earlier they didn't care, i hope this trend will not become standard!

Bitters now too, but only to trade $2k or more vs the USD. I'm sure it will change soon though.

[Rotator]

We need decentralised p2p exchange on darknet!
All this is very wrong at the start.
Just remember how many exchanges like Gox and Cryptsy or Mintpal
confiscate many coins for their own good!

[crazywack]

We need decentralised p2p exchange on darknet!
All this is very wrong at the start.
Just remember how many exchanges like Gox and Cryptsy or Mintpal
confiscate many coins for their own good!

Blocknet is working on that and has a testnet/beta. Should be cool, and a timeframe was finally put out on slack a few days ago.

[J1mb0]

Bytecoin was the fist anonymous coins, but the distribution of it is quite dubious, so Monero was generated to have fairer distribution.

If bytecoin was the first anonymous coin then why it is not a very popular and well adopted coins and why called it dubious had some bytecoins here and still waiting what will happen to this coin..

You won't get much objective info on BCT.

https://bytecoin.org/roadmap/

The fact that Bytecoin is the first Cryptonote and is updated more regularly and has more usability features than any other note is unwelcome news here.

[andulolika]

Here's what I was able to find, check for volume and market cap for the most widely used.

Monero
Shadowcash
Darknote
Dash
Boostcoin
X11coin
X13coin
Cloakcoin
Cryptcoin
DigiByte
BitcoinDark
DogecoinDark
Stealthcoin

https://z.cash/


I don't really think these coins are important, they have speculative value and are quite good for trading, I have made several profitable trades with some of these.

Darkclam will be anon.

[arbitrage]

Anon coins are in crisis!
They can be used only for one purpose and that's why they are good.
But never gonna be so successful as bitcoin or even LTC..
First announcement of Dark Coin made me to think - this will kill bitcoin in few weeks..
and nothing happened.

[generalizethis]

Anon coins are in crisis!
They can be used only for one purpose and that's why they are good.
But never gonna be so successful as bitcoin or even LTC..
First announcement of Dark Coin made me to think - this will kill bitcoin in few weeks..
and nothing happened.

First, you can't have a fungible currency without privacy. It's not by accident that CT was developed to help Bitcoin's fungibility issue.

Second, darkcoin is a piss poor design for an anonymous coin. Everyone who has a clue knows it and that's why you don't see any early adopters of Bitcoin using it. So if that's your metric, I would upgrade your understanding of anonymity before making the statement as it's the equivalent of saying, "Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

[arbitrage]

"Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

I didn't said this just wondering where anonymity is going?


What makes you think people like all that anonymity?
Look at facebook and twitter majority of people love to share everything from their lives, what did they eat, where did they slept. Pictures in bathroom and so on.
Small group of people like you and maybe me, can use this new technology.
Many would  use id card on Poloniex and Monero ..as someone mentioned before.

[owm123]

"Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

I didn't said this just wondering where anonymity is going?


What makes you think people like all that anonymity?
Look at facebook and twitter majority of people love to share everything from their lives, what did they eat, where did they slept. Pictures in bathroom and so on.
Small group of people like you and maybe me, can use this new technology.
Many would  use id card on Poloniex and Monero ..as someone mentioned before.

You are right that vast majority simply does not care about their anonymity or privacy. Otherwise facebook, twiter, gmail, outlook, etc would be all out of business.

But small fraction does. And anon coins are for these people. Just like tutanota or protonmail target small fraction off ppl that are not happy with gmail or outlook spying. And these email providers can be succesful, without gmail (or google) or other major email providers going bankrupt.

[generalizethis]

"Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

I didn't said this just wondering where anonymity is going?


What makes you think people like all that anonymity?
Look at facebook and twitter majority of people love to share everything from their lives, what did they eat, where did they slept. Pictures in bathroom and so on.
Small group of people like you and maybe me, can use this new technology.
Many would  use id card on Poloniex and Monero ..as someone mentioned before.

I know you didn't make the cell phone comment, I was making an analogy between dash's anonymity and early cell phones.

Those same people who share photos, what they eat, and where they slept, don't also share their bank statements online. People buy shredders for those types of receipts or go to shredding events held by the local tv station (at least they do in my town).

I'm not sure what you are talking about with ID cards?

[andulolika]

"Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

I didn't said this just wondering where anonymity is going?


What makes you think people like all that anonymity?
Look at facebook and twitter majority of people love to share everything from their lives, what did they eat, where did they slept. Pictures in bathroom and so on.
Small group of people like you and maybe me, can use this new technology.
Many would  use id card on Poloniex and Monero ..as someone mentioned before.

You are right that vast majority simply does not care about their anonymity or privacy. Otherwise facebook, twiter, gmail, outlook, etc would be all out of business.

But small fraction does. And anon coins are for these people. Just like tutanota or protonmail target small fraction off ppl that are not happy with gmail or outlook spying. And these email providers can be succesful, without gmail (or google) or other major email providers going bankrupt.

Maybe if anonimity was optional, i like it that why because i wouldnt link my savings to my self for example, why would i let my government or whoever know how much i saved up? Fuck them, also i believe dark coins kinda failed because thats all they offered, anonymity.

[generalizethis]

"Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

I didn't said this just wondering where anonymity is going?


What makes you think people like all that anonymity?
Look at facebook and twitter majority of people love to share everything from their lives, what did they eat, where did they slept. Pictures in bathroom and so on.
Small group of people like you and maybe me, can use this new technology.
Many would  use id card on Poloniex and Monero ..as someone mentioned before.

You are right that vast majority simply does not care about their anonymity or privacy. Otherwise facebook, twiter, gmail, outlook, etc would be all out of business.

But small fraction does. And anon coins are for these people. Just like tutanota or protonmail target small fraction off ppl that are not happy with gmail or outlook spying. And these email providers can be succesful, without gmail (or google) or other major email providers going bankrupt.

Maybe if anonimity was optional, i like it that why because i wouldnt link my savings to my self for example, why would i let my government or whoever know how much i saved up? Fuck them, also i believe dark coins kinda failed because thats all they offered, anonymity.

Monero has a view key, so you can hand over business and tax receipts to interested parties.

Darkcoin, rebranded as dash and is not anonymous by default (which is my main criticism of its anonymity function), so you can mix coins or not--though why you wouldn't use a more secure Bitcoin mixer with the same privacy limitations is beyond me.

Though the real question isn't a matter of privacy, it's how do you stop coins from being white or black listed? As long as a coin isn't private, you can't have the adequate fungibility necessary to be considered a digital cash. Governments, and businesses trying to stay compliant with KYC laws, will always segregate coins if the option is available.

[andulolika]

"Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

I didn't said this just wondering where anonymity is going?


What makes you think people like all that anonymity?
Look at facebook and twitter majority of people love to share everything from their lives, what did they eat, where did they slept. Pictures in bathroom and so on.
Small group of people like you and maybe me, can use this new technology.
Many would  use id card on Poloniex and Monero ..as someone mentioned before.

You are right that vast majority simply does not care about their anonymity or privacy. Otherwise facebook, twiter, gmail, outlook, etc would be all out of business.

But small fraction does. And anon coins are for these people. Just like tutanota or protonmail target small fraction off ppl that are not happy with gmail or outlook spying. And these email providers can be succesful, without gmail (or google) or other major email providers going bankrupt.

Maybe if anonimity was optional, i like it that why because i wouldnt link my savings to my self for example, why would i let my government or whoever know how much i saved up? Fuck them, also i believe dark coins kinda failed because thats all they offered, anonymity.

Monero has a view key, so you can hand over business and tax receipts to interested parties.

Darkcoin, rebranded as dash and is not anonymous by default (which is my main criticism of its anonymity function), so you can mix coins or not--though why you wouldn't use a more secure Bitcoin mixer with the same privacy limitations is beyond me.

Though the real question isn't a matter of privacy, it's how do you stop coins from being white or black listed? As long as a coin isn't private, you can't have the adequate fungibility necessary to be considered a digital cash. Governments, and businesses trying to stay compliant with KYC laws, will always segregate coins if the option is available.

I dont understand why do we care about their opinion, we need a trustless exchange on onion or something so we get rid of these damn exchanges that requiere your id and stuff.

[arbitrage]

I dont understand why do we care about their opinion, we need a trustless exchange on onion or something so we get rid of these damn exchanges that requiere your id and stuff.

That is what i'm talking about exchanges and using of real id to get Monero (Poloniex)..
Yes if you have anonymity in wallet you also must have on street (on exchange ).
I'm supporting anonymity, but i'm concern for it future if we don't have proper exchanges free of risk and free of spy eyes..

[andulolika]

I dont understand why do we care about their opinion, we need a trustless exchange on onion or something so we get rid of these damn exchanges that requiere your id and stuff.

That is what i'm talking about exchanges and using of real id to get Monero (Poloniex)..
Yes if you have anonymity in wallet you also must have on street (on exchange ).
I'm supporting anonymity, but i'm concern for it future if we don't have proper exchanges free of risk and free of spy eyes..

Hmm with a bit of luck we will do more in the future about this atleast in the dc, community but we are going to have decentralized exchange clam/darkclam.

[generalizethis]

I dont understand why do we care about their opinion, we need a trustless exchange on onion or something so we get rid of these damn exchanges that requiere your id and stuff.

That is what i'm talking about exchanges and using of real id to get Monero (Poloniex)..
Yes if you have anonymity in wallet you also must have on street (on exchange ).
I'm supporting anonymity, but i'm concern for it future if we don't have proper exchanges free of risk and free of spy eyes..

Shapeshift doesn't ask for ID, and AFAIK, Polo doesn't require ID verification as long as you don't go over a certain limit.

[adhitthana]

X11coin

Is that XC?

[TPTB_need_war]

Not Vanillacoin nor Dash:

I already explained upthread that ZeroTime (even when it is not Sybil attacked) can't scale and even your own shill admitted it isn't trustworthy.

And I already explained that ChainBlender is another Dash-like nonsense anonymity design.

The 'John' is not at our level. Period.

Now you know why the community is ignoring you. And I will now ignore you as well. Enjoy your circle-jerk.

[Rotator]

What is best anon coin?
And what is best service and exchange where you like to trade?
Please honest answer, what coin have most chance to succeed?
We all saw what has happened to SDC.. Can this happen to others?

[Ruhtilg]

There are indications that the Dash (x11) can be mined by ASIC. I used to think Dash is good, not any more.

[generalizethis]

What is best anon coin?
And what is best service and exchange where you like to trade?
Please honest answer, what coin have most chance to succeed?
We all saw what has happened to SDC.. Can this happen to others?

Currently, monero, boolberry or aeon.

My answer will be biased--so please do your own research or ask more specific questions to compare what works, what does it better and which has the strongest development.

Shapeshift if your main concern is privacy and Poloniex if your main concern is volume and price.

Yes, given weak implementations of good technology or using an inferior privacy design, what happened to SDC can and will happen with most of the coins claiming anonymity.

[crazywack]

What is best anon coin?
And what is best service and exchange where you like to trade?
Please honest answer, what coin have most chance to succeed?
We all saw what has happened to SDC.. Can this happen to others?

It's all a matter of opinion. If you ask that your just going to get a bunch of cheer leaders trying to sell their favorite coin.

My suggestion is research all the coins listed.

[Spoetnik]

Anon coins are in crisis!
They can be used only for one purpose and that's why they are good.
But never gonna be so successful as bitcoin or even LTC..
First announcement of Dark Coin made me to think - this will kill bitcoin in few weeks..
and nothing happened.

First, you can't have a fungible currency without privacy. It's not by accident that CT was developed to help Bitcoin's fungibility issue.

Second, darkcoin is a piss poor design for an anonymous coin. Everyone who has a clue knows it and that's why you don't see any early adopters of Bitcoin using it. So if that's your metric, I would upgrade your understanding of anonymity before making the statement as it's the equivalent of saying, "Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

Your a full of shit on a persistent colossal scale.

You can bicker about which shitty ass Anon coin is better but they are all pointless stupid gimmick garbage.And all fo them exist to part users from Bitcoin so they can be cashed out to FIAT..

[generalizethis]

Anon coins are in crisis!
They can be used only for one purpose and that's why they are good.
But never gonna be so successful as bitcoin or even LTC..
First announcement of Dark Coin made me to think - this will kill bitcoin in few weeks..
and nothing happened.

First, you can't have a fungible currency without privacy. It's not by accident that CT was developed to help Bitcoin's fungibility issue.

Second, darkcoin is a piss poor design for an anonymous coin. Everyone who has a clue knows it and that's why you don't see any early adopters of Bitcoin using it. So if that's your metric, I would upgrade your understanding of anonymity before making the statement as it's the equivalent of saying, "Cell phones will never take off because they are heavy and cost too much."

Your a full of shit on a persistent colossal scale.

You can bicker about which shitty ass Anon coin is better but they are all pointless stupid gimmick garbage.And all fo them exist to part users from Bitcoin so they can be cashed out to FIAT..

As always your eloquent, thoughtful, level-headed, polite and fact based criticism shows how endeared you are to using this forum as a method to separate legitimate technology from pump and dump schemes.

[arbitrage]

I'm looking these days at XC, i'm wondering can this be pumped aging?
I don't see much activity but with some good news this can be rise again, what do you think?
Is it worth it?

[andulolika]

I'm looking these days at XC, i'm wondering can this be pumped aging?
I don't see much activity but with some good news this can be rise again, what do you think?
Is it worth it?

Why everyone thinking about pumps, im really impatient to see how darkclam does on the xcp exchange till we launch it.

[arbitrage]

Why everyone thinking about pumps

Well we all needs good all times and great pumps.
That was ultimativ way o get more btcs, and to experience such
 adrenalin for a few days how much one good pump takes.

Ps i'm gonna see now what are you talking about darkclaim

[CryptocurrencyNetwork]

Want true anonymity? VERGE $XVG

[Ruhtilg]

Of the existing coins, XMR is the most developed.

Could you break down how its more developed over other cryptonote coins?

There are new features coming out of the Monero constantly. The developers are known to the community.

[generalizethis]

Of the existing coins, XMR is the most developed.

Could you break down how its more developed over other cryptonote coins?

There are new features coming out of the Monero constantly. The developers are known to the community.

Confidential transactions will be added to Monero soon, which is a major privacy upgrade, and so far is unique among cryptonote coins--as is developing openalias, having a research team, and having a videogame that uses Monero as its "legal tender" currency. I'm sure all the cryptonote coins are working on a DB and other upgrades, but AFAIK the other coins don't have as many Devs or cryptographers working on their coin as yet.

Aeon and Boolberry are both fine coins, and many (if not all) of the upgrades in each coin will be shared as they are developed--though, over time, this will become less and less so as the code for each coin "hardens." As we've seen in BTC,  politics and code limitations have the effect of limiting how much a coin can change over time.

[arbitrage]

As i can see you are trying to tell us MONERO is best and will stay on the top? 
I like all anon coins whole idea is pretty good. But i don't like antagonism between members of different communities.

[generalizethis]

As i can see you are trying to tell us MONERO is best and will stay on the top?  
I like all anon coins whole idea is pretty good. But i don't like antagonism between members of different communities.

A question was asked, and I answered it. Not sure anyone could evaluate the factors more rationally than I have. If we're talking about cryptonote coins, I think the ones I listed are good and deserve to be in the conversation. I didn't include non-cryptonote coins as that wasn't what was asked--though I believe only zerocash has as good a privacy method (perhaps better if perfected) as the ring signatures used in cryptonote coins, but it has the drawbacks that it doesn't exist yet, its cryptography is new, and you can't validate the blockchain to see if it is  being attacked--though it may well succeed at fixing those issues someday.

[?chooseusername]

What about VPNcoin, can it be considered an AnonCoin? I really like Monero too but I still wonder what would be the top 5... There are so many

Rank
1)Monero
2)?
3)?
4)?
5)?

Verge, Aeon, BitcoinDark, Etc...

[generalizethis]

What about VPNcoin, can it be considered an AnonCoin? I really like Monero too but I still wonder what would be the top 5... There are so many

Rank
1)Monero
2)?
3)?
4)?
5)?

Verge, Aeon, BitcoinDark, Etc...

I would rank the cryptonote coins without a premine/ninjamine in the first tier (substantial centralization breaks ring-signiture's untraceability--one of the few cases where technology checks greed without being programmed to), then probably Bitcoin with coinjoin in the second tier and then coins that copied coinjoin (or even less), but oftentimes have weird or complicated schemes, which oftentimes decrease the privacy features they were intended to improve.

I get the feeling that most reading this thread aren't actually using the technology and are trying rather to predict the market--in which case I say, "good luck." Those who are trying to find the best way to remain private can research the facts for themselves and use the best alternative based on their need and availability--these people are most likely not in a rush and will use the best method based on rational research, rather than lists or charts or whichever coin has the best infographic.  

[ArticMine]

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I would rank the cryptonote coins without a premine/ninjamine in the first tier (substantial centralization breaks ring-signiture's untraceability--one of the few cases where technology checks greed without being programmed to), then probably Bitcoin with coinjoin in the second tier and then coins that copied coinjoin (or even less), but oftentimes have weird or complicated schemes, which oftentimes decrease the privacy features they were intended to improve.

I get the feeling that most reading this thread aren't actually using the technology and are trying rather to predict the market--in which case I say, "good luck." Those who are trying to find the best way to remain private can research the facts for themselves and use the best alternative based on their need and availability--these people are most likely not in a rush and will use the best method based on rational research, rather than lists or charts or whichever coin has the best infographic.  

The only Cryptonote coins I can rank in the first tier must in addition to no premine/ninjamine have a tail emission.

[generalizethis]

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I would rank the cryptonote coins without a premine/ninjamine in the first tier (substantial centralization breaks ring-signiture's untraceability--one of the few cases where technology checks greed without being programmed to), then probably Bitcoin with coinjoin in the second tier and then coins that copied coinjoin (or even less), but oftentimes have weird or complicated schemes, which oftentimes decrease the privacy features they were intended to improve.

I get the feeling that most reading this thread aren't actually using the technology and are trying rather to predict the market--in which case I say, "good luck." Those who are trying to find the best way to remain private can research the facts for themselves and use the best alternative based on their need and availability--these people are most likely not in a rush and will use the best method based on rational research, rather than lists or charts or whichever coin has the best infographic.  

The only Cryptonote coins I can rank in the first tier must in addition to no premine/ninjamine have a tail emission.

That's a long-term argument. If you wanted to use a coin for privacy tomorrow (or even a year from now), it doesn't matter if it can sustain its network ten years from now. As a long-term investor this argument matters, but as a user or trader, it seems much ado about nothing.

[ArticMine]

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That's a long-term argument. If you wanted to use a coin for privacy tomorrow (or even a year from now), it doesn't matter if it can sustain its network ten years from now. As a long-term investor this argument matters, but as a user or trader, it seems much ado about nothing.

A user needs a high market capitalization (provided by long term investors) and a high liquidity (provided by traders) relative to the size of the transaction. Market capitalization and liquidity has to be higher for an anonymous coin when compared to a  non anonymous coin in order to provide the mixing needed. Traders on the other hand can lessen their risk by looking for fundamentals that align with the direction of their trades, even though the trades themselves may be driven by short term market considerations. The long term is still be applicable to both users and traders though not as directly and for investors.

[generalizethis]

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That's a long-term argument. If you wanted to use a coin for privacy tomorrow (or even a year from now), it doesn't matter if it can sustain its network ten years from now. As a long-term investor this argument matters, but as a user or trader, it seems much ado about nothing.

A user needs a high market capitalization (provided by long term investors) and a high liquidity (provided by traders) relative to the size of the transaction. Market capitalization and liquidity has to be higher for an anonymous coin when compared to a  non anonymous coin in order to provide the mixing needed. Traders on the other hand can lessen their risk by looking for fundamentals that align with the direction of their trades, even though the trades themselves may be driven by short term market considerations. The long term is still be applicable to both users and traders though not as directly and for investors.

Agreed, but I was asked to rank coins by their anonymity functions, so I did. Market considerations change and aren't a rational way to evaluate why you would use a coin for privacy at any given second--the exception being for a very large transactions that require liquidity (though there isn't enough liquidity with any coin for the types of transactions that occur between corporations or countries).

[arbitrage]

And far as i know Monero is POW coin , are those POW coins safer than POS?
If price goes more up,  MONERO could be dumped by miners?

[Edwardard]

And far as i know Monero is POW coin , are those POW coins safer than POS?
If price goes more up, are you afraid, MONERO could be dumped by miners?

Monero is always dumped by the miners, in fact the bot net operators. That is the reason the price is low.

[arbitrage]

Monero is always dumped by the miners, in fact the bot net operators. That is the reason the price is low.

So in fact there is a lot more miners than actually investors, i can get only this conclusion.
If there is block halving maybe this can help in future to reduce mining dump?

[mikewillda]

Monero is always dumped by the miners, in fact the bot net operators. That is the reason the price is low.

So in fact there is a lot more miners than actually investors, i can get only this conclusion.
If there is block halving maybe this can help in future to reduce mining dump?

There is no block halving. The block reward decreases day after day. It is quite a smooth process.

[bakedrice]

what about dogecoindark, or verge?

[mikewillda]

what about dogecoindark, or verge?

I think these are not very popular coins. They are not as famous as the Dash or Monero. These two are the biggest.