Boards that don't contribute to activity

[Lutpin]

And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity. Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank

I myself would. And yet I'm fully for it.

Investor-based games - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0

Why? I don't read that section, but I feel like most of the posts there should be fairly substantial and contribute to a person's "record".

There's a lot of games&rounds like activity in the investor-based games section, where users have to post txids of their deposits or things like that for a giveaway from the ponzi.
For example here or here.

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[Mickeyb]

And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity. Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank

I myself would. And yet I'm fully for it.

Cool, but are everyone up for it? A change like this, that would affect a lot of members should be agreed upon by the community. But well this is theymos' property, he can do whatever the shit he wants.

[Lauda]

And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity.

I myself would. And yet I'm fully for it.

I don't think that this is the case. I mean, theymos could just turn it off from now on and I don't think it should affect the past posts. Even if it does, I still stand by my opinion.ć

Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank

No. As long as you've posted in other sections in the time periods you should be fine.

Cool, but are everyone up for it?

There has yet to be a single valid reason not to do this.

[TookDk]

I see no reason why off topic should count as activity.
That whole section is big garbage can of trash.

[DualBitcoin]

The root cause of this idea were the signature spammers so why don't just ban signature campaigns?

[Erkallys]

The root cause of this idea were the signature spammers so why don't just ban signature campaigns?

This is an endless debate. They incentivise people to post, so this get more money for the admins because there is more views. I don't think that they'll ban it. Plus, they couldn't.

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Games and rounds, and off topic.

Shit, have you seen all the spam back there? It's a hurricane of spam.


EDIT: Also, add the address staking thread to that list. Full of post count padders.

[Erkallys]

Games and rounds, and off topic.

Shit, have you seen all the spam back there? It's a hurricane of spam.

Off-topic has been cleaned recently, so I think that it is no longer a problem. About Games and rounds, what I see when go there is a wall of giveaways. Why would people don't get activity when they post there ? You just have to lookk at their post history to see what kind of poster it is.

[Lauda]

Off-topic has been cleaned recently, so I think that it is no longer a problem. About Games and rounds, what I see when go there is a wall of giveaways.

It is a problem. You have not looked at it directly enough. There are all kinds of problems there ranging from 'thread hijacking' to people who have not even read the OP (not to mention the posts from other people).

Why would people don't get activity when they post there ? You just have to lookk at their post history to see what kind of poster it is.

They are just spamming the section. Those posts don't deserve to be counted nor should they contribute to the activity.

This is an endless debate.

Exactly. Let's not start the debate in this thread.

Plus, they couldn't.

We can.

EDIT: Also, add the address staking thread to that list. Full of post count padders.

The original idea behind the thread was great, but it ended up being abused. I guess there should be at least some minimum rank to post in it (e.g. Hero).

[xandry]

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

"Off-topic" is the best candidate.

I would like to offer a few Russian subsections:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0 - Пoлитикa
It's "Politics & Society" analogue but only about politics.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=18.0 - Paзнoe
"Off-topic" analogue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=92.0 - Кopзинa
"Trashcan" analogue.

[alani123]

I think it'd be a nice feature if mods could mark certain topics that turn spammy so that people replying wouldn't earn activity points. This way it wouldn't be possible to make topics in off-topic solely for activity farming.

[Mickeyb]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=92.0 - Кopзинa
"Trashcan" analogue.

Shouldn't the trash board for any Local section, not even be accessible to normal members or is Trashcan the word that most resembles the board?

[dogie]

Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts.  I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.

I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.

That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.

That's what I said isn't it?


I think asking the campaign managers which they think would be good to remove is would be a good start, as they'll know which boards they have to look out for.

[Erkallys]

Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts.  I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.

I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.

That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.

That's what I said isn't it?


I think asking the campaign managers which they think would be good to remove is would be a good start, as they'll know which boards they have to look out for.

That's not exactly what you said. I added that if we do so, the member ranks will be in a way "reseted", except if you multiply the actual activity points.

[xandry]

Shouldn't the trash board for any Local section, not even be accessible to normal members or is Trashcan the word that most resembles the board?

I don't know why our local trashcan is accessible to any users, including for write, and for what it was created.

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Shouldn't the trash board for any Local section, not even be accessible to normal members or is Trashcan the word that most resembles the board?

I don't know why our local trashcan is accessible to any users, including for write, and for what it was created.

Russian government pressure.   joking.
I think Russian sub is the only board with a "local trashcan". deleted topics from all other local boards goes to the normal trashcan. ofc I may be wrong.

btw the list of recommended board is growing larger... and I see some people recommend the lending section. I don't agree with this. if you're going to exclude all boards that's prone to spam then there's also the gambling section. better to just ban signature campaign in that case.

[Ejanend]

Auctions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=73.0), since bid posts contribute nothing. Maybe even include all the "listing" sections such as goods, services, currency exchange.

Auctions is a good choice. But, goods, services & currency exchange have lots of constructive discussions.

Like what? What's pretty much there:

• bumps
• "be sure to use escrow"
• "scammer!!!1!"
• "sale went smoothly"
• questions related to transaction (who goes first, escrow, counter offers, etc.)
• people asking for vouch copies (in digital goods)
• sig spammers asking questions but have no intentions of buying

Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude  them in the post or the activity count?

[grue]

Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude  them in the post or the activity count?

If could do that I wouldn't be moderating, I would be working on the next google.

[dogie]

Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude  them in the post or the activity count?

If could do that I wouldn't be moderating, I would be working on the next google.

That sounds like something I could write the logic for, but in.... English. Maybe the guy who wrote the account value estimator could write something which pings an admin if an account checked with his service meets to many low post quality criteria https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1142314.0.

[achow101]

Can you write a program to identify all those posts and exclude  them in the post or the activity count?

If could do that I wouldn't be moderating, I would be working on the next google.

Well for somethings like bumps and +1's it is fairly trivial. But other stuff like asking questions with no intention of buying, that is harder to determine.

That sounds like something I could write the logic for, but in.... English. Maybe the guy who wrote the account value estimator could write something which pings an admin if an account checked with his service meets to many low post quality criteria https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1142314.0.

Why?