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October 07, 2018, 12:16:51 AM
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Actually even how you would like socialism to be considered good, it will still fail. Look at how socialist countries have become? It is not that socialism is bad but there will always be inequality among people. People are have a tendency to be greedy and this makes them do what is not good. No single government works successfully even democracy fails, but what makes it good over socialism is that people are always free to deviate from the other such that they can do what they want and live as free as they want. Rather than make thing so absolute just letting things be, is the spirit of democracy. In a socialist country the blockchains you say may no longer be so much needed. Because everybody is to be equal we don't have to trade and no need for cryptocurrency. Do really intend it to be like these? I think many would surely like the fun of trading cryptocurrencies.

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October 07, 2018, 01:58:12 AM
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socialism is very important. imagine if all the rich people in the world have a high social spirit, all poor people will be helped. and also corporations from natural disasters, will certainly be helped. precisely the country will be destroyed if there is no socialism. if the government says that socialism is nonsense, then are they able to help all the poor in their country? not. they have never been able to. then those who have an obligation to help are people who are rich and have a high social spirit.

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October 08, 2018, 03:08:51 AM
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I'm also very partial to socialism. I like the idealogy of us almost having a hive mentality on any hiven country. But the fact still remains that everyone is corruptable and we are prone to looking out for ourselves and only ourselves. I also would like to see everyone in the community to be actually working and not just asking the government money.

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October 09, 2018, 08:50:23 AM
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You should not complain about your country's physique. Any form of physique has its own flaws. You must know how many people envy French socialism. The so-called democracy is wrong. This is the result of a group of people fighting against another group. Politics has always been the brightest and darkest. You should reflect on yourself, not blame your country. You must know that peace is the most stable state. Is your Mark Long too young? Maybe it is more able to get the support of young people. In France, where it is not as good as Italy, French culture has split.
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October 10, 2018, 03:26:48 AM
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When we are first taught about socialism, I thought it was way better than capitalism. But it will be ideal if everyone actually works hard to achieve a single goal. If not, and some of it's citizens become lazy or corrupt then this economic system will collapse. I guess any economic system be it dictatorship or what not, if the execution fails then it will ultimately be doomed.

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October 18, 2018, 05:45:23 PM
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Socialism plays on beautiful slogans about peace, fraternity, mutual aid, justice. However, as a rule, double standards always arise in socialist countries. There, in the name of the people, a lot of restrictions are introduced for a free person, moreover, in the name of the people, there, as a rule, they destroy a lot of ordinary people. I lived under socialism — enough, I don’t want to return to it anymore.

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October 22, 2018, 09:44:56 PM
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Lmao socialism is ALL about stealing, you complete fucking imbecile.
well i think you are  just simply over-excited with capitalism.
Socialism isn't about stealing but it is about spreading the good all over the people,but being fair at the moment.
The idea is good,but unluckily this cannot work in the modern days.
If we take the USSR as the main socialist state, then it collapsed partly due to the fact that even in the economy there were official statistics on how well socialism was developing, and unofficial statistics, which approximately corresponded to reality. And so it was in everything. Double morality, for the public one thing, but for their surroundings another. And how many millions of people were shot in the name of the spread of good and justice? And how many millions are destroyed by hunger? I lived under socialism in the USSR and I know what I write. You just need to develop a society and spread good and justice, and the ideological superstructure is not needed for this.

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October 22, 2018, 11:39:42 PM
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Under capitalism every person in society has freedom to start their own business, innovate, patent an idea and otherwise change civilization for the better. Under socialism an extremely limited number of people in government have the freedom to do things like start businesses. Capitalism is intrinsically a more effective and efficient system in terms of its greater capacity to harness the collective intelligence, imagination, resourcefulness and creativity of a population.

Unlike capitalism, socialism does not reward qualities like intelligence, competence or efficiency. In socialist states, the most intelligent, talented or capable individuals do not wind up running things, contrary to competitive free market business in a private sector.

In the final analysis, socialism has intrinsic shortcomings which make it an inferior system to capitalism. Socialism also is less effective at distributing wealth or property in a fair and impartial manner.

The advantages of capitalism could be illustrated in the trade war between china and the US. America's economy will be empowered by its citizens having freedom under capitalism to start businesses like google, apple, microsoft and so on. China will have issues there due to its hard socialist authoritarian policies. An example of this is china's government making an attempt to oppress imagination and the type of out-of-the-box innovative thinking which leads to progress. An example of this is one of their recent policies where they tried to discourage stories relating to science fiction. A polar opposite to this policy is japan which has increased its technical ability by encouraging science fiction, anime and having a culture that has many different stories which make youth interested in engineering, science and technology.

I think china will serve as a good example of how socialism and socialist regimes do not reward intelligence or good decision making in determining its leadership roles. Already one might say they have made many mistakes in negotiating trade tariffs with the united states and china's economic growth will suffer significantly as a result.
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October 22, 2018, 11:48:19 PM
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I'm also very partial to socialism. I like the idealogy of us almost having a hive mentality on any hiven country. But the fact still remains that everyone is corruptable and we are prone to looking out for ourselves and only ourselves. I also would like to see everyone in the community to be actually working and not just asking the government money.
I agree, most of the time, Socialism helps me to determine which people I must join with to make myself comfortable and versed with the present market , also there is a fact that by socialism can contribute to your decisions towards your goals in crypto investments.
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October 23, 2018, 06:59:31 AM
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Socialism is not the key, here is why:

1. There is no incentive for there to be any entrepreneurship or incentive to want to get better and higher-paying jobs if you are only going to receive a marginally better salary and get the majority of the rest of it taxed.

2. Technological and economic progress is stagnated, France is currently 6-8th largest GDP in the world (Over the past century), clocking in at roughly $2 Trillion in 2015, yet the IMF projects it falling off further to the #10 spot by 2020. The french have also made only a few technological innovations that are useful for the world, many "innovations" during the last 60 years have been beauty/fashion related or merely an improvement on an existing idea.

3. Back to point #1, socialism rewards mediocrity. Everyone gets a pat-on-the-back and gets money (In some form) for not being exceptional or striving ahead of everyone else. It is like kindergarten, socialism is giving everyone a participation award, and those who place first get the same trophy.

4. Capitalism doesn't tell you what to do. The richest people in the world don't force you to buy anything, do anything, or make anything. Everyone is free to their own interests, and can achieve whatever they want to with work and actually trying to strive ahead.

5. Free market, or, at least, a more open market. Resources are far more efficiently used in a free market, as the people can adapt to the changing needs and wants of the population. Centrally planned economies (A product of extreme socialism) are very inefficient, as the Soviet Union shows.

6. The goal of socialism is to create a utopia, but every personal has a different perception and thus it can never really be achieved. The person who must determine what this utopia is would be the state, with a theoretical consensus. This infringes on other people's capacity to fulfil their own interests, and if the state decides that video games are an illegal source of entertainment because they hurt productivity, that wrecks someone else's view of utopia.



Now for all the hate I'm giving socialism, it does have a place in the right situation.



For example, if/when AI takes over most jobs, basic incomes distributed by the state will be a necessity because we cannot have >4 billion people all working white-collar jobs, or, at the very least, there is very little infrastructure to support that for right now.

As the current world economy goes, however, socialism is not the best system. More things have to change for it to be the best system.
It is agreed that this socialism has nothing to do with it. We must know that democracy must be false. Democracy is only a contradiction of the bourgeoisie.

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October 27, 2018, 05:23:17 AM
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I find a lots of people here saying things like "Socialism is the worst thing ever, it doesn't work and it's why the government have so much debt".

Well clearly it is not and socialism is the only way to go.
I'm French, I'm from a socialist country and solidarity is extremely important here.
Here is a common example given by people saying socialism is the worst thing ever: Healthcare costs around 2 billions of debt every year to the country.
So people are saying that we shouldn't give so much. That we shouldn't help each other so much.

I say bullshit nothing more.
The private sector of health is 36 billions every year. Just nationalize this shit and you'll get enough money to repay the health debt, triple the employment, repay part of national debt and lower the taxes!

It's the same for all sectors! What is profitable has been privatised by corrupted politician and only what costs money is left for the state! Another example? Yeah the Highways were sold to private companies! Just after they were repayed by tolls.

The only thing killing socialism is greed. Greed and corruption.

How do you fight it? By creating a democracy. but a true one not one of our shitty Western false democracies! One using the blockchain to make people vote for every law and every constitution modification! That's what should be done! Then you would see that we have far enough money, we're just letting private investors keeping it.
Some people don’t know what they are saying here. Socialism is really good and has lots of advantages, but we are also aware of the fact that anything with an advantage will also have a disadvantage, but the question is which would be worst, so we go for the ones with lesser disadvantages. Socialism is one of the reasons why workers are longer being exploited and it also helps to eliminates poverty.
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January 30, 2019, 01:17:15 PM
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well I have to agree with your opinion about socialism, especially the part of greed and corruption which will end socialism. Living in a socialist country, I have to say corruption is at its worst. Everything needs some money to get it done fast and billions are stolen by corrupted officials
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I find a lots of people here saying things like "Socialism is the worst thing ever, it doesn't work and it's why the government have so much debt".

Well clearly it is not and socialism is the only way to go.
I'm French, I'm from a socialist country and solidarity is extremely important here.
Here is a common example given by people saying socialism is the worst thing ever: Healthcare costs around 2 billions of debt every year to the country.
So people are saying that we shouldn't give so much. That we shouldn't help each other so much.

I say bullshit nothing more.
The private sector of health is 36 billions every year. Just nationalize this shit and you'll get enough money to repay the health debt, triple the employment, repay part of national debt and lower the taxes!

It's the same for all sectors! What is profitable has been privatised by corrupted politician and only what costs money is left for the state! Another example? Yeah the Highways were sold to private companies! Just after they were repayed by tolls.

The only thing killing socialism is greed. Greed and corruption.

How do you fight it? By creating a democracy. but a true one not one of our shitty Western false democracies! One using the blockchain to make people vote for every law and every constitution modification! That's what should be done! Then you would see that we have far enough money, we're just letting private investors keeping it.
With all the explanations I read about socialism to which the country where you live in stated as an example is not that convincing. It is not a form of government that affects the countries economy but instead the decision making of a leader and how to eradicate corruption. Corruption is the number 1 reason why a country will go down. There are always greedy people everywhere but there are some countries also to where corruption was minimize and that is Japan. I should be hoping one day I could go transfery residency to that countey especially in tokyo. The number  safest city in the world.
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January 30, 2019, 04:57:55 PM
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Socialism plays on beautiful slogans about peace, fraternity, mutual aid, justice. However, as a rule, double standards always arise in socialist countries. There, in the name of the people, a lot of restrictions are introduced for a free person, moreover, in the name of the people, there, as a rule, they destroy a lot of ordinary people. I lived under socialism — enough, I don’t want to return to it anymore.

I can see what you mean, but you have to admit that the truth lies somewhere in between. Both Socialism and capitalism have some advantages and disadvantages. I think that the best way to create a system based on the advantages of both socialism and capitalism and not just stick with the one system or the other.
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February 13, 2019, 08:01:22 AM
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because to start something, requires extensive knowledge. so socialization is very important to avoid misunderstanding in doing something. for example traffic information, so road users never make the same mistake. it also applies to anything, including the crypto industry.
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February 13, 2019, 09:34:47 AM
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because to start something, requires extensive knowledge. so socialization is very important to avoid misunderstanding in doing something. for example traffic information, so road users never make the same mistake. it also applies to anything, including the crypto industry.
by joining a group, we will easily get information, so there will be a lot of news that we can receive. besides that by sharing with friends, it is useful to determine our steps. but remember, decisions remain in your hands, there must be a reason for an action

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February 13, 2019, 09:55:14 AM
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because to start something, requires extensive knowledge. so socialization is very important to avoid misunderstanding in doing something. for example traffic information, so road users never make the same mistake. it also applies to anything, including the crypto industry.
by joining a group, we will easily get information, so there will be a lot of news that we can receive. besides that by sharing with friends, it is useful to determine our steps. but remember, decisions remain in your hands, there must be a reason for an action
we can share each other by joining in multiple telegram group.there will much people that have more knowledge than us.and that's good place for us to improve our knowledge.
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