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February 22, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
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The Bible is even truth when it tells lies. Why? Because it says that they are lies, or it attributes the lies to people other than God.

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God did not write it.  I think we established that.

God conducted the writting of the Bible, it conducted the hands of those men, and thus, we can say that God's words are kept there.

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February 22, 2016, 12:05:33 PM
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Bible is a collection of events, records, sayings and predictions during the time of the biblical era, starting with the first book in the Old Testament which is Genesis and ending with the book of Revelations in the New Testament.

Except that the Bible expresses things from the very beginning - long before the Bible started to be written - to the very end - long after the Bible finished being written.

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February 22, 2016, 12:06:29 PM
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Bible is a collection of events, records, sayings and predictions during the time of the biblical era, starting with the first book in the Old Testament which is Genesis and ending with the book of Revelations in the New Testament.

Except that the Bible expresses things from the very beginning - long before the Bible started to be written - to the very end - long after the Bible finished being written.

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And they are all true. (not)

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February 22, 2016, 12:11:54 PM
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Bible is a collection of events, records, sayings and predictions during the time of the biblical era, starting with the first book in the Old Testament which is Genesis and ending with the book of Revelations in the New Testament.

Except that the Bible expresses things from the very beginning - long before the Bible started to be written - to the very end - long after the Bible finished being written.

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And they are all true. (not)

It is true that the things that the Bible expresses to be lies, are lies. So, the Bible is truth.

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February 22, 2016, 12:13:45 PM
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Bible is a collection of events, records, sayings and predictions during the time of the biblical era, starting with the first book in the Old Testament which is Genesis and ending with the book of Revelations in the New Testament.

Except that the Bible expresses things from the very beginning - long before the Bible started to be written - to the very end - long after the Bible finished being written.

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And they are all true. (not)

It is true that the things that the Bible expresses to be lies, are lies. So, the Bible is truth.

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Kindergarten logic.

You could also say: I'm right because my mommy says so.

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February 22, 2016, 03:09:10 PM
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The origins of the bible at the time were originally written on scrolls, papyrus and skin ,then later transferred to books in a collection. But the composer of first Bible was still a mystery.
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February 22, 2016, 04:29:23 PM
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Bible is a collection of events, records, sayings and predictions during the time of the biblical era, starting with the first book in the Old Testament which is Genesis and ending with the book of Revelations in the New Testament.

Except that the Bible expresses things from the very beginning - long before the Bible started to be written - to the very end - long after the Bible finished being written.

And they are all true. (not)

It is true that the things that the Bible expresses to be lies, are lies. So, the Bible is truth.

Kindergarten logic.

You could also say: I'm right because my mommy says so.

He knows it's true because the bible itself said so... haven't you ever read a story that begins, "I know this sounds ridiculous, but I swear it's a true story..."?... Don't you know those are always 100% honest and truthful?

I don't see any incentive to lie about the bible... other than that part about "give us 10% of your money", and "bring us a bunch of sacrifices" (food for us to eat after you leave), and "follow all these rules we wrote down... even the ones we tell you orally and have no source to reference in this huge book", and "don't forget the booze" or Jesus will need to turn some water into wine, so we can get drunk!
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February 22, 2016, 05:43:31 PM
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The origins of the bible at the time were originally written on scrolls, papyrus and skin ,then later transferred to books in a collection. But the composer of first Bible was still a mystery.
It has been edited and revised over the centuries by various churches and methodical groups but the fundamental facts remain the same, even though some of its contradictions leave some doubt to it's originality. Like you said the first collector/composer is still unknown.
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February 22, 2016, 05:47:46 PM
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The origins of the bible at the time were originally written on scrolls, papyrus and skin ,then later transferred to books in a collection. But the composer of first Bible was still a mystery.
It has been edited and revised over the centuries by various churches and methodical groups but the fundamental facts remain the same, even though some of its contradictions leave some doubt to it's originality. Like you said the first collector/composer is still unknown.

I'd recommend asking the Jews... They wrote the books and have been debating their origins for over 2000 years... Unlike Christians, Jews like to debate the bible
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February 22, 2016, 06:07:22 PM
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Bible is a collection of events, records, sayings and predictions during the time of the biblical era, starting with the first book in the Old Testament which is Genesis and ending with the book of Revelations in the New Testament.

and all the things that it is about are not more than a fiction.. bible is a masterpiece of a schizophrenic beautiful mind for sure..
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February 22, 2016, 06:58:19 PM
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The Bible is even truth when it tells lies. Why? Because it says that they are lies, or it attributes the lies to people other than God.

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God did not write it.  I think we established that.

God conducted the writting of the Bible, it conducted the hands of those men, and thus, we can say that God's words are kept there.

How do you know this? 

Because people who wrote the Bible, wrote that God inspired them?  Is that the only evidence you have?

The Truth can only be inspired from God itself. Also, the Bible list events that took place thanks to God, which produces the same thing at the end.

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February 23, 2016, 05:20:32 AM
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The Bible is even truth when it tells lies. Why? Because it says that they are lies, or it attributes the lies to people other than God.

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God did not write it.  I think we established that.

God conducted the writting of the Bible, it conducted the hands of those men, and thus, we can say that God's words are kept there.


I agree, with this. God used the prophets,apostles,kings and other men to write His commandments, His messages for us even though it is written long time ago but when you will read it , it also tells that we are included to the commandments , people in the present time.
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February 23, 2016, 09:45:11 AM
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The Bible is even truth when it tells lies. Why? Because it says that they are lies, or it attributes the lies to people other than God.

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God did not write it.  I think we established that.

God conducted the writting of the Bible, it conducted the hands of those men, and thus, we can say that God's words are kept there.

How do you know this?  

Because people who wrote the Bible, wrote that God inspired them?  Is that the only evidence you have?

The Truth can only be inspired from God itself. Also, the Bible list events that took place thanks to God, which produces the same thing at the end.

Why you need God to inspire Truth?  Scientists are uncovering the truth about genetics, nanotechnology,physics and many other scientific fields.  People who, according to you were inspired by God, wrote the Bible and did not mention any details on genetics, artificial insemination, artificial intelligence, bitcoin, evolution, or even that the Earth is round.  Instead it describes the world as heavens and Earth, with a dome over flat Earth that is supported by four pillars.  World that is 7230 years old.  Is that the Truth you (or your God) are talking about?

You are talking about a fictional character from a book.  It is the same as believing in a Superman.
Don't you realize this?


Why would he ? Our passage on Earth is a test to make us reach Heaven or not. If you create a survival TV show, if you give the fire and the house directly, that's not really funny !



The Bible is even truth when it tells lies. Why? Because it says that they are lies, or it attributes the lies to people other than God.

Cool

God did not write it.  I think we established that.

God conducted the writting of the Bible, it conducted the hands of those men, and thus, we can say that God's words are kept there.


I agree, with this. God used the prophets,apostles,kings and other men to write His commandments, His messages for us even though it is written long time ago but when you will read it , it also tells that we are included to the commandments , people in the present time.

You don't know this.  You believe this because the authors wrote this in the Bible.  Right?

Have you ever studied History ? You should know that this men really existed, and they transferred God's message to the humans. I don't see why you're creating a polemic where there isn't one.

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February 24, 2016, 04:29:01 AM
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The Bible is even truth when it tells lies. Why? Because it says that they are lies, or it attributes the lies to people other than God.

Cool

God did not write it.  I think we established that.

God conducted the writting of the Bible, it conducted the hands of those men, and thus, we can say that God's words are kept there.

How do you know this?  

Because people who wrote the Bible, wrote that God inspired them?  Is that the only evidence you have?

The Truth can only be inspired from God itself. Also, the Bible list events that took place thanks to God, which produces the same thing at the end.

Why you need God to inspire Truth?  Scientists are uncovering the truth about genetics, nanotechnology,physics and many other scientific fields.  People who, according to you were inspired by God, wrote the Bible and did not mention any details on genetics, artificial insemination, artificial intelligence, bitcoin, evolution, or even that the Earth is round.  Instead it describes the world as heavens and Earth, with a dome over flat Earth that is supported by four pillars.  World that is 7230 years old.  Is that the Truth you (or your God) are talking about?

You are talking about a fictional character from a book.  It is the same as believing in a Superman.
Don't you realize this?


Why would he ? Our passage on Earth is a test to make us reach Heaven or not. If you create a survival TV show, if you give the fire and the house directly, that's not really funny !



The Bible is even truth when it tells lies. Why? Because it says that they are lies, or it attributes the lies to people other than God.

Cool

God did not write it.  I think we established that.

God conducted the writting of the Bible, it conducted the hands of those men, and thus, we can say that God's words are kept there.


I agree, with this. God used the prophets,apostles,kings and other men to write His commandments, His messages for us even though it is written long time ago but when you will read it , it also tells that we are included to the commandments , people in the present time.

You don't know this.  You believe this because the authors wrote this in the Bible.  Right?

Have you ever studied History ? You should know that this men really existed, and they transferred God's message to the humans. I don't see why you're creating a polemic where there isn't one.

I think he is reading the bible even though he is reading it he can't understand it. Again we believe that God is real and the bible is God's words delivered by the people whom He had chosen to write it for the past,present and future generation.
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February 24, 2016, 05:55:14 AM
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The bible however tells the truth about some things which turned out to be true even before the humans knew it. like the bible says the earth is round while we just discovered it not too long ago by some conquistadors.

there were fossils being discovered like the king sargon in the bible. and just recently there were coins and fossils discovered with writings on it about the king while no records about the king but just in the bible.

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February 24, 2016, 06:33:14 AM
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The bible however tells the truth about some things which turned out to be true even before the humans knew it. like the bible says the earth is round while we just discovered it not too long ago by some conquistadors.

there were fossils being discovered like the king sargon in the bible. and just recently there were coins and fossils discovered with writings on it about the king while no records about the king but just in the bible.

Name one.
ceasar's coin were discovered as well.
the bible says milk are for babies and honey are for the adult. thats just one.

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February 24, 2016, 06:45:58 AM
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The bible however tells the truth about some things which turned out to be true even before the humans knew it. like the bible says the earth is round while we just discovered it not too long ago by some conquistadors.

there were fossils being discovered like the king sargon in the bible. and just recently there were coins and fossils discovered with writings on it about the king while no records about the king but just in the bible.

Name one.

the bible says milk are for babies and honey are for the adult. thats just one.

That is priceless.

ROFL...Adults drink milk and love it.

This is what you base your beliefs on?  Bible mentioned rocks, and we do have rocks now.  Is that another proof it is true word of God? Wink

i didn't say i believe it. i don't believe god either.  fuck god. but its what it is.
now the doctors says and science says that honeys are good for adults and milk are good for babies.

for some reason it proves that bibles says the truth. and that they know some things which people didn't know before.

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The bible however tells the truth about some things which turned out to be true even before the humans knew it. like the bible says the earth is round while we just discovered it not too long ago by some conquistadors.

there were fossils being discovered like the king sargon in the bible. and just recently there were coins and fossils discovered with writings on it about the king while no records about the king but just in the bible.

Name one.

the bible says milk are for babies and honey are for the adult. thats just one.

That is priceless.

ROFL...Adults drink milk and love it.

This is what you base your beliefs on?  Bible mentioned rocks, and we do have rocks now.  Is that another proof it is true word of God? Wink

i didn't say i believe it. i don't believe god either.  fuck god. but its what it is.
now the doctors says and science says that honeys are good for adults and milk are good for babies.

for some reason it proves that bibles says the truth. and that they know some things which people didn't know before.

We are mammals. We suck on mother's breasts to get some milk.  Bronze age people knew that.
They probably found out that giving honey to babies caused them indigestion problems.  Again nothing that bronze age people could not observe at the time the book was written.


that could be true but none of them ever wrote it on paper but its written in the bible. where else can you find that? book of confusious was way older than the bible but it didn't say about milk and honey Smiley

those people in bronse age believe the earth is flat. but the bible says its round.

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The bible however tells the truth about some things which turned out to be true even before the humans knew it. like the bible says the earth is round while we just discovered it not too long ago by some conquistadors.

there were fossils being discovered like the king sargon in the bible. and just recently there were coins and fossils discovered with writings on it about the king while no records about the king but just in the bible.

Name one.

the bible says milk are for babies and honey are for the adult. thats just one.

That is priceless.

ROFL...Adults drink milk and love it.

This is what you base your beliefs on?  Bible mentioned rocks, and we do have rocks now.  Is that another proof it is true word of God? Wink

i didn't say i believe it. i don't believe god either.  fuck god. but its what it is.
now the doctors says and science says that honeys are good for adults and milk are good for babies.

for some reason it proves that bibles says the truth. and that they know some things which people didn't know before.

We are mammals. We suck on mother's breasts to get some milk.  Bronze age people knew that.
They probably found out that giving honey to babies caused them indigestion problems.  Again nothing that bronze age people could not observe at the time the book was written.


that could be true but none of them ever wrote it on paper but its written in the bible. where else can you find that? book of confusious was way older than the bible but it didn't say about milk and honey Smiley

those people in bronse age believe the earth is flat. but the bible says its round.

Flat Earth is implied in the following verses:

Revelation 1:7
Daniel 4:10-11
Matthew 4:8

You can read some other crazy, immoral things the Bible says:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

Bible represents a bronze age world view.  Nothing about genetic engineering, nano technology, age of Earth or other planets, age of the universe, black holes, galaxies etc.  No mention of bacteria or viruses that kill by a truckload even today.

Any modern knowledge is not in the Bible, only stuff that was known at the time of when it was written.

PS.  No bitcoin reference either.


LOL clearly you didn't read the bible.

i'm no christian no catholic but read the bible like its a history book.
you need to read it back and search in the bible where they mention about earth being round.

don't come back when you can't find it! go!

but let me give you a bet. if i give you the verse, how much bitcoin will you send to my address?

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February 25, 2016, 12:53:19 AM
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The bible however tells the truth about some things which turned out to be true even before the humans knew it. like the bible says the earth is round while we just discovered it not too long ago by some conquistadors.

there were fossils being discovered like the king sargon in the bible. and just recently there were coins and fossils discovered with writings on it about the king while no records about the king but just in the bible.

Name one.

the bible says milk are for babies and honey are for the adult. thats just one.

That is priceless.

ROFL...Adults drink milk and love it.

This is what you base your beliefs on?  Bible mentioned rocks, and we do have rocks now.  Is that another proof it is true word of God? Wink

i didn't say i believe it. i don't believe god either.  fuck god. but its what it is.
now the doctors says and science says that honeys are good for adults and milk are good for babies.

for some reason it proves that bibles says the truth. and that they know some things which people didn't know before.

We are mammals. We suck on mother's breasts to get some milk.  Bronze age people knew that.
They probably found out that giving honey to babies caused them indigestion problems.  Again nothing that bronze age people could not observe at the time the book was written.


that could be true but none of them ever wrote it on paper but its written in the bible. where else can you find that? book of confusious was way older than the bible but it didn't say about milk and honey Smiley

those people in bronse age believe the earth is flat. but the bible says its round.

Flat Earth is implied in the following verses:

Revelation 1:7
Daniel 4:10-11
Matthew 4:8

You can read some other crazy, immoral things the Bible says:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

Bible represents a bronze age world view.  Nothing about genetic engineering, nano technology, age of Earth or other planets, age of the universe, black holes, galaxies etc.  No mention of bacteria or viruses that kill by a truckload even today.

Any modern knowledge is not in the Bible, only stuff that was known at the time of when it was written.

PS.  No bitcoin reference either.


LOL clearly you didn't read the bible.

i'm no christian no catholic but read the bible like its a history book.
you need to read it back and search in the bible where they mention about earth being round.

don't come back when you can't find it! go!

but let me give you a bet. if i give you the verse, how much bitcoin will you send to my address?

I found these.  Is this what you think of?

Job 26:10
He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters,
At the boundary of light and darkness.


Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who ustretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a vtent to dwell in.


Where does it say that the Earth is round (a sphere)?

BTW, חוּג means circle, כַּדוּר means ball, sphere in Hebrew.  Two different words.

Show me where in bible it says that Earth is a sphere?  I challenge you.

Post the original Hebrew verse.

PS. You know, they knew (imagined) Earth was flat with a dome of heaven stretching above it.  But they also observed the Moon and Sun so they inferred that the Earth must be like drawn with a compass, a circle because other things in the dome (stars) have this shape.  I think that is the meaning in the Isaiah 40:22.


English isn't even my native tongue. is that how you understand it, is old English really that hard to understand?

if i were god and intend to write something for the people, i would start at hiring someone who could write text where people could understand.
if i intend to write and send message to the cows, i would hire some cows to write the message. that's logical.

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